Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[ILovecycling]

You tried it, we love you because you fight, not for the results!
Take rest and see you in september I hope


Vamos ALBERTO!

 

[trevim]

I wonder how bad Contador has felt this Tour, he never looked even slightly close to something called form. His 5th just shows how tough he is. I don't if he'll ever win another GT but it's still great to watch him ride.

 

[JRanton]

So Froome now has the same number of TdF's as Contador.

Hopefully next year we finally see both go head to head in at least close to their best condition. I know who my money will be on. The lion of the Savannah!

 

[sir fly]

Mortirolo and the Giro time trial were Contador's peak this year.
If he can reach it and hold it for a longer time next year - he might win the Tour again.

 

[LaFlorecita]

So Froome now has the same number of TdF's as Contador.

Hopefully next year we finally see both go head to head in at least close to their best condition. I know who my money will be on. The lion of the Savannah!

Why? post this in the AC thread? FFS

 

[SeriousSam]

So Froome now has the same number of TdF's as Contador.

Hopefully next year we finally see both go head to head in at least close to their best condition. I know who my money will be on. The lion of the Savannah!

Froome has more days in yellow and more stage wins. But yes hopefully Froome and Contador will both hit the Tour in top form next year.

Surely one, just one year where they both arrive in peak shape at the same GT is not too much to ask for.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

Mortirolo and the Giro time trial were Contador's peak this year.
If he can reach it and hold it for a longer time next year - he might win the Tour again.

15 minutes on 1 stage and 1 hour on another isn't a peak.
He needs to reach his 2014 level and if he does, the win is definitely not out of question.

 

[LaFlorecita]

So Froome now has the same number of TdF's as Contador.

Hopefully next year we finally see both go head to head in at least close to their best condition. I know who my money will be on. The lion of the Savannah!

Froome has more days in yellow and more stage wins. But yes hopefully Froome and Contador will both hit the Tour in top form next year.

Surely one, just one year where they both arrive in peak shape at the same GT is not too much to ask for.

And Contador has 2(3) Giro wins, Froome 0. Contador has 3 Vuelta wins, Froome 0. Contador has 2 Paris-Nice Froome 0. Contador has 1 Tirreno-Adriatico Froome 0.

 

[BlurryVII]

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Contador should be very happy with this Tour. It is arguably the best performance of his career. Yes, he won two tours but in those he won by barely beating third tier riders in Rasmussen, Leipheimer, Schleck and that 38 year old who had not ridden in 4 years. None of those riders would have stood a chance of finishing in the top 10 in this years tour. Rather, Contador's 2011, 2013 and 2015 Tour is his consistent standard. When he rides against the best riders who are in peak form he is a 2nd to 3rd tier rider. Yes, he can win a Vuelta or Giro against inferior competition or out of shape riders. But he is not nor ever has been a Tour De France contending rider. Rather, he is the most over hyped and over rated rider in the history of cycling. But, Kudo's to him for finishing within 10 minutes and beating his peers in Mollema, Gesink, Barguil, etc.

What the heck did I just read ?

The truth

Um, yeah Rassmussen 07' would absolutely demolish everyone in this Tour, Schleck 09' / 10' as well, numbers, plateau de beille ascent time and other facts prove that.

And why would Contador's 'consistent standard' be the Tour 11' - 13' and 15' ? Like, do you like to see what you wanna see or what's going on ?

Good then, if you like to pick random things then to me, Froome's "consistent standard" is Vuelta 2012, Catalunya 2014 and 2015, how about that? That's the truth.

Froome is always crap in final weeks of a GT and won because Contador rode the Giro. Happy now?

 

[LaFlorecita]

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‏@tinkoff_saxo
Our captain will have raced no less than 46 stages in just 79 days, when he enters Champs-Élysées tomorrow!! #TDF2015

https://twitter.com/tinkoff_saxo/status/624966766645641216

 

[Red Rick]

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Tinkoff SaxoVerified account
‏@tinkoff_saxo
Our captain will have raced no less than 46 stages in just 79 days, when he enters Champs-Élysées tomorrow!! #TDF2015

https://twitter.com/tinkoff_saxo/status/624966766645641216

That's crazy, pretty sure Route du Sud was a terrible idea, call me captain hindsight if you like.

 

[Jelantik]

Re: Re:

Tinkoff SaxoVerified account
‏@tinkoff_saxo
Our captain will have raced no less than 46 stages in just 79 days, when he enters Champs-Élysées tomorrow!! #TDF2015

https://twitter.com/tinkoff_saxo/status/624966766645641216

That's crazy, pretty sure Route du Sud was a terrible idea, call me captain hindsight if you like.

oke captain hindsight .. you are right. I was beginning to think so..

 

[Jelantik]

2014 - Vuelta
2015 - Giro
2106 - Tour then?

 

[Poursuivant]

2014 - Vuelta
2015 - Giro
2106 - Tour then?

I'd be really impressed if he won the Tour in 2106... but Chris Horner will probably beat him

 

[LaFlorecita]

2014 - Vuelta
2015 - Giro
2106 - Tour then?

I'd be really impressed if he won the Tour in 2106... but Chris Horner will probably beat him

Just like Valverde and his Tour podium - he'll get that Tour win at some point

And remember, Berto has never been 2nd or 3rd in a GT before... either he wins or he's not even close

 

[Red Rick]

Yeah, its either 1st, 4th, 5th or 31st (I think) like in his first Tour, but I have no *** idea what his job in that one was

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Yeah, its either 1st, 4th, 5th or 31st (I think) like in his first Tour, but I have no **** idea what his job in that one was

Dom for Beloki and Heras I guess, though they both finished behind him terrible TDF for them, Jacksche was their best finisher with a top 20 position overall I think.

 

[ILovecycling]

Re:

With Contador it's always the same, the first sign will show how his entire GT will go. The mur in this case.

And of course he won't retire next year He loves the competition too much.

Let the people write him off, like they always do. Won the last 2 GT's but he's on the retour apperently. Next year i expect him to go nuclear with the same program as in 2014.

And let's hope he doesn't crash in the tour and then he can show why he's the best rider of this generation.

I'm still not over the fact that he crashed in the tour of 2014, look at that face. Not breathing

Feel it the same.
Look at THAT shape


Also sorry Taxus I like your post not about AC , but this is too much, you will be my no.2 on ignore list.

 

[warmfuzzies]

So Froome now has the same number of TdF's as Contador.

Hopefully next year we finally see both go head to head in at least close to their best condition. I know who my money will be on. The lion of the Savannah!

Froome has more days in yellow and more stage wins. But yes hopefully Froome and Contador will both hit the Tour in top form next year.

Surely one, just one year where they both arrive in peak shape at the same GT is not too much to ask for.

And Contador has 2(3) Giro wins, Froome 0. Contador has 3 Vuelta wins, Froome 0. Contador has 2 Paris-Nice Froome 0. Contador has 1 Tirreno-Adriatico Froome 0.

Froome is just about to win the Tour and the KoM. I do not believe Contador has ever accomplished that feat. You know who has? Bartali, Coppi, Merckx.

 

[Miburo]

So Froome now has the same number of TdF's as Contador.

Hopefully next year we finally see both go head to head in at least close to their best condition. I know who my money will be on. The lion of the Savannah!

Froome has more days in yellow and more stage wins. But yes hopefully Froome and Contador will both hit the Tour in top form next year.

Surely one, just one year where they both arrive in peak shape at the same GT is not too much to ask for.

And Contador has 2(3) Giro wins, Froome 0. Contador has 3 Vuelta wins, Froome 0. Contador has 2 Paris-Nice Froome 0. Contador has 1 Tirreno-Adriatico Froome 0.

Froome is just about to win the Tour and the KoM. I do not believe Contador has ever accomplished that feat. You know who has? Bartali, Coppi, Merckx.

Merckx won the 3 GT's, oh look at that who else did that?

 

[roundabout]

Re:

Yeah, its either 1st, 4th, 5th or 31st (I think) like in his first Tour, but I have no **** idea what his job in that one was

With the best stage result of 34th it's no wonder.

 

[BlurryVII]

So Froome now has the same number of TdF's as Contador.

Contador won 3 Tours though.

 

[Red Rick]

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Yeah, its either 1st, 4th, 5th or 31st (I think) like in his first Tour, but I have no **** idea what his job in that one was

With the best stage result of 34th it's no wonder.

Wait I'm onto something

Before he started collecting GT titles, he won the Ninja trophy in the Tour.

 

[BlurryVII]

So Froome now has the same number of TdF's as Contador.

Hopefully next year we finally see both go head to head in at least close to their best condition. I know who my money will be on. The lion of the Savannah!

Froome has more days in yellow and more stage wins. But yes hopefully Froome and Contador will both hit the Tour in top form next year.

Surely one, just one year where they both arrive in peak shape at the same GT is not too much to ask for.

Problem is, Froome's top top shape only lasts for one or two MTFs then he fades completely in what's supposed to be his season objective.

Contador in top form would eat him out if he fades like that again. Hopefully he gets back to his form from the Tour 14' then the fun part will begin, Quintana and Froome will both be left in the dust.

 

[Metabolol]

Contador can win the Tour next year if he peaks for it. After watching this Tour and the performance of Froome and Quintana, it's clear that it's possible as long as he has he can avoid crashes, comes in with good shape and a team that can back him up. You can't win the Tour without a good team.