Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[PremierAndrew]

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Events, interpretations, wishes, extrapolations. Obviously, in the dream world in which we unfortunately don't live in our favourite rider always wins if only he'd stayed on his bike, hit peak shape, or yadayadayada. We won't know what would've happened, I just know that I assumed both Froome and Quintana would have been stronger compared to the rest of the field. Maybe that rest of the field is stronger. Maybe Froome couldn't bother to drop Porte and Mollema.

Only assumption I'd make is that Contador would be 'up there'. Wherever that is.

No need for froome to attack porte and mollema with no stage win available and the TT tomorrow

There was no need for him to attack with Sagan, Thomas and the other Tinkoff rider with Ventoux looming the following day but he did anyway. He had to know that he had no chance of the stage win with Sagan there. The opportunity to gain time is always a reason to attack. The fact that he and Sky are always integrating into the front of the on flat sprint stages, often catching his opponents unawares and occasionally taking time should be evidence enough that he and his team are opportunists and can't be given the slight bit of rope in terms of one's attention. The slightest lack of focus could mean minutes lost.

He attacked with Sagan to gain time on Quintana, his main threat. What was the point of attacking Porte and Mollema when he could just ride at a constant tempo and increase his advantage on Quintana?

 

[Red Rick]

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Let's try and keep this friendly, shall we. Seems to me there's no point arguing if you're never agreeing anyway, so let's leave it at that.

I think it's better to react directly, not generally, when you are mod.

That would imply I'm reacting to one person. I'm not.

 

[Puccini]

This was an excellent stage for Alberto; through your profile and distance .... in these parameters has made great lap times (examples VUELTA A ESPAÑA 2012 and 14)

2012 » 67th Vuelta a Espana (WT)
Stage 11
(ITT) » Cambados › Pontevedra (39.4k)

1 KESSIAKOFFFredrikAstana Pro Team 52:36
2 CONTADORAlbertoTeam Saxo Bank - Tinkoff Bank 00:17
3 FROOMEChristopherSky Procycling 0:39
4VALVERDEAlejandroMovistar Team 1:08
5INTXAUSTIBeñatMovistar Team 1:09
6PORTERichieSky Procycling 1:15
7RODRÍGUEZJoaquimTeam Katusha 1:16
8MEYERCameronOrica GreenEDGE 1:17
9TALANSKYAndrewGarmin Sharp 1:24
10CASTROVIEJOJonathanMovistar Team 1:34
11MARTINTonyOmega Pharma - Quick-Step 1:39

 

[Puccini]

2014 » 69th Vuelta a España (2.UWT)
Stage 10 (ITT) » Real Monasterio de Santa María de Veruela › Borja (36.7k)



1 MARTINTonyOmega Pharma - Quick-Step 47:02
2URANRigobertoOmega Pharma - Quick-Step 0:15
3CANCELLARAFabianTrek Factory Racing 0:18
4CONTADORAlbertoTinkoff - Saxo 0:39
5SÁNCHEZSamuelBMC Racing Team 80:48
6EVANSCadelBMC Racing Team 0:49
7KIRYIENKAVasilTeam Sky 0:57
8VALVERDEAlejandroMovistar Team 1:00
9SERGENTJesseTrek Factory Racing 1:13
10FROOMEChristopherTeam Sky 1:32


http://www.vueltaburgos.com/

 

[indianfanboy]

Contador would have won today's TT

 

[Electress]

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Events, interpretations, wishes, extrapolations. Obviously, in the dream world in which we unfortunately don't live in our favourite rider always wins if only he'd stayed on his bike, hit peak shape, or yadayadayada. We won't know what would've happened, I just know that I assumed both Froome and Quintana would have been stronger compared to the rest of the field. Maybe that rest of the field is stronger. Maybe Froome couldn't bother to drop Porte and Mollema.

Only assumption I'd make is that Contador would be 'up there'. Wherever that is.

No need for froome to attack porte and mollema with no stage win available and the TT tomorrow

There was no need for him to attack with Sagan, Thomas and the other Tinkoff rider with Ventoux looming the following day but he did anyway. He had to know that he had no chance of the stage win with Sagan there. The opportunity to gain time is always a reason to attack. The fact that he and Sky are always integrating into the front of the on flat sprint stages, often catching his opponents unawares and occasionally taking time should be evidence enough that he and his team are opportunists and can't be given the slight bit of rope in terms of one's attention. The slightest lack of focus could mean minutes lost.

He attacked with Sagan to gain time on Quintana, his main threat. What was the point of attacking Porte and Mollema when he could just ride at a constant tempo and increase his advantage on Quintana?

Wrong thread.

 

[movingtarget]

The Contador thread has become an exercise in nostalgia. He would have he could have he should have. At least when the Vuelta starts there will be something to actually discuss.

 

[Miburo]

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The Contador thread has become an exercise in nostalgia. He would have he could have he should have. At least when the Vuelta starts there will be something to actually discuss.

Sorry, i couldn't help myself

 

[Carols]

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Contador would have won today's TT

Big Tom D certainly would have given him a time to shoot for. So a big Maybe.

 

[DanielSong39]

Contador hasn't been the same since 2010...

 

[geargbest]

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Contador hasn't been the same since 2010...

Suggest you watch other bike races than tour de france or try to troll a bit better buddy :lol:

 

[Pantani Attacks]

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Contador hasn't been the same since 2010...

4 GT wins since 2011 is still the best show of any cyclist.

 

[infeXio]

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Contador hasn't been the same since 2010...

July fan galore

 

[portugal11]

This tt would be perfect for him. He could gain 20 seconds in froome only on first climb

 

[buchanan]

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The Contador thread has become an exercise in nostalgia. He would have he could have he should have. At least when the Vuelta starts there will be something to actually discuss.

Have to agree with you. Stuff like "If this was 2009 or 2014 , he would be in the yellow jersey, no problem".
So many wouldas, shouldas...kinda boring and repetitive. It's just comes across as sour grapes and shows lack of respect to Froome, Mollema, etc.

I will still be rooting for Contador at the Vuelta. Just wish his other fans could be a bit more gracious toward the opposition.

 

[buchanan]

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Contador would have won today's TT

Could have, would have, should have...You have to actually be there to win it.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Oh man he would have done so well today

 

[Pantani Attacks]

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The Contador thread has become an exercise in nostalgia. He would have he could have he should have. At least when the Vuelta starts there will be something to actually discuss.

Have to agree with you. Stuff like "If this was 2009 or 2014 , he would be in the yellow jersey, no problem".
So many wouldas, shouldas...kinda boring and repetitive. It's just comes across as sour grapes and shows lack of respect to Froome, Mollema, etc.

I will still be rooting for Contador at the Vuelta. Just wish his other fans could be a bit more gracious toward the opposition.

 

[buchanan]

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The Contador thread has become an exercise in nostalgia. He would have he could have he should have. At least when the Vuelta starts there will be something to actually discuss.

Have to agree with you. Stuff like "If this was 2009 or 2014 , he would be in the yellow jersey, no problem".
So many wouldas, shouldas...kinda boring and repetitive. It's just comes across as sour grapes and shows lack of respect to Froome, Mollema, etc.

I will still be rooting for Contador at the Vuelta. Just wish his other fans could be a bit more gracious toward the opposition.

Well, you have to admit Mollema is riding very well. He's obviously gone up a level. Riding way better than Quintana. However Froome is just unbeatable out of the GC riders. Best uphill, best downhill, best in crosswinds, best in TT's.

I think the Contador fans must forget the virtual Contador they seem to be imagining is still riding in this Tour - in the yellow jersey of course and winning all the key stages.

I look to the Vuelta. I just hope he can recover and train to be in absolute peak shape for that event. And most important of all - not crash!

 

[Miburo]

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Oh man he would have done so well today

Don't fleur, don't. It's too painful i know, he would have crushed this, not beat dumoulin but definitely Froome.

This is the second time this happened, why can't he crash out when he sucks?

The vuelta won't ease the pain, it'll always be there until he wins the tour again

 

[damian13ster]

There, Contador is a moral winner of Tour 2014, 2016, and now has 48846 GT wins. He is best downhill, uphill, most agressive, best TTer, far better than Dumoulin, can totally get through a roundabout without falling off the bike. Are all of you living in a fantasy world happy now? Can this thread get back to reality?

 

[dacooley]

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Oh man he would have done so well today

Don't fleur, don't. It's too painful i know, he would have crushed this, not beat dumoulin but definitely Froome.

This is the second time this happened, why can't he crash out when he sucks?

The vuelta won't ease the pain, it'll always be there until he wins the tour again

essential amendment is that ac would have needed a perfect shape to deliver such a result

 

[moi123]

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There, Contador is a moral winner of Tour 2014, 2016, and now has 48846 GT wins. He is best downhill, uphill, most agressive, best TTer, far better than Dumoulin, can totally get through a roundabout without falling off the bike. Are all of you living in a fantasy world happy now? Can this thread get back to reality?

Lol, it might surprise you that this is closer to the truth than what some delusional haters are posting. :lol: This Tour needs Contador.

 

[buchanan]

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There, Contador is a moral winner of Tour 2014, 2016, and now has 48846 GT wins. He is best downhill, uphill, most agressive, best TTer, far better than Dumoulin, can totally get through a roundabout without falling off the bike. Are all of you living in a fantasy world happy now? Can this thread get back to reality?

Lol, that pretty much sums up this thread. This thread is like an alternative universe where Contador won every Tour since 2009. If only he didn't crash, didn't ride the Giro before, etc.etc...If only...

Edit: And appears one is a 'delusional hater' for not thinking the same.

 

[Red Rick]

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There, Contador is a moral winner of Tour 2014, 2016, and now has 48846 GT wins. He is best downhill, uphill, most agressive, best TTer, far better than Dumoulin, can totally get through a roundabout without falling off the bike. Are all of you living in a fantasy world happy now? Can this thread get back to reality?

Lol, that pretty much sums up this thread. This thread is like an alternative universe where Contador won every Tour since 2009. If only he didn't crash, didn't ride the Giro before, etc.etc...If only...

Well, each and every time they're legit arguments. Theres vey few people arguing what you're saying. Kaybe you should look past what happens in the month of July