Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[portugal11]

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He looked like he was pedaling squares up that hil, in all sorts of discomfort. But perhaps he really is just at the Dauphine to get quality racing mileage. But like others have said, Froome and Porte can also be expected to improve between now and the Tour.

He's also at a disadvantage on descents. Not as good a descender as Froome, Valverde, etc. He was gapped about 15 seconds to Valverde and Bardet on the finishing descent today.

Froome and Porte won't improve they always come at 99% in DL

He let go on the descent, he didnt want to take any chances

At dauphine, froome is close to be in top shape but he ISN'T in top shape.

 

[kingjr]

I think he simply has a bit too much weight atm. Shouldn't be a problem for the Tour.

 

[TheYouyou7]

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How does he put in the same tt time as Froome and then get demolished the day after? Seems weird to me?

I think that he thought that it was too hard to follow Froome and decided to follow AV, I'm not sure that he was at his limit in the climb. He reminds me of Dauphiné 09

Lol...

It's my opinion you foolish fanboy... Maybe you were in his body and have more information than i do...?

Haha, ok. He dropped despite he could follow Porte and Froome, makes sense bro.

If you bothered reading what he said you'd probably know that it does make sense.

 

[rick james]

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He looked like he was pedaling squares up that hil, in all sorts of discomfort. But perhaps he really is just at the Dauphine to get quality racing mileage. But like others have said, Froome and Porte can also be expected to improve between now and the Tour.

He's also at a disadvantage on descents. Not as good a descender as Froome, Valverde, etc. He was gapped about 15 seconds to Valverde and Bardet on the finishing descent today.

Froome and Porte won't improve they always come at 99% in DL

He let go on the descent, he didnt want to take any chances

Froome has weight to lose and he is nowhere near this 99%

 

[Valv.Piti]

You are delusional.

 

[TheYouyou7]

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He looked like he was pedaling squares up that hil, in all sorts of discomfort. But perhaps he really is just at the Dauphine to get quality racing mileage. But like others have said, Froome and Porte can also be expected to improve between now and the Tour.

He's also at a disadvantage on descents. Not as good a descender as Froome, Valverde, etc. He was gapped about 15 seconds to Valverde and Bardet on the finishing descent today.

Froome and Porte won't improve they always come at 99% in DL

He let go on the descent, he didnt want to take any chances

Froome has weight to lose and he is nowhere near this 99%

You'll see when jens will publish his figures... He has the same performances in DL and in TDF.

 

[Climber123]

There are 3 consecutive mountain stages....

 

[TheYouyou7]

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You are delusional.

Thank you for this clever argument !

 

[Forever The Best]

Lol at the Froome, Evans and Quintana fanboys coming over to the thread, saying 'delusional', posting some images to insult etc.

Though, he doesn't look good this year and his chances take a single win this year (nvm the Tour) is very low.

 

[GraftPunk]

Obviously we'll just have to wait and see. He seemed a bit resigned today, but there a couple of stages left.

 

[portugal11]

Stage 8 of dauphine is perfect to him. I think he will win there (he is almost 2 minutes down)

 

[lenric]

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Lol at the Froome, Evans and Quintana fanboys coming over to the thread, saying 'delusional', posting some images to insult etc.

Though, he doesn't look good this year and his chances take a single win this year (nvm the Tour) is very low.

No need to be mad. If you're so superior to "those fanboys" (funny that this still is an appreciation thread), ignore them.

 

[Climber123]

He literally never went to the front, never attacked and did not even tried to follow Porte's acceleration. It will get better.

 

[Forever The Best]

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Lol at the Froome, Evans and Quintana fanboys coming over to the thread, saying 'delusional', posting some images to insult etc.

Though, he doesn't look good this year and his chances take a single win this year (nvm the Tour) is very low.

No need to be mad. If you're so superior to "those fanboys" (funny that this still is an appreciation thread), ignore them.

I obviously disagree with what YouYou said. But I don't post some images to insult, say 'delusional' etc.

 

[Netserk]

In itself, I'm not too worried about today (stress on 'too'), but given how his team already now talks about targeting the Giro next year, I think they can see the writing on the wall. Sigh

 

[Valv.Piti]

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In itself, I'm not too worried about today (stress on 'too'), but given how his team already now talks about targeting the Giro next year, I think they can see the writing on the wall. Sigh

But he could easily have followed, so I don't know why you are worried?

 

[lenric]

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Lol at the Froome, Evans and Quintana fanboys coming over to the thread, saying 'delusional', posting some images to insult etc.

Though, he doesn't look good this year and his chances take a single win this year (nvm the Tour) is very low.

No need to be mad. If you're so superior to "those fanboys" (funny that this still is an appreciation thread), ignore them.

I obviously disagree with what YouYou said. But I don't post some images to insult, say 'delusional' etc.

Don't know what image you're referring to, since "believing in unicorns" is equal to "believing in fairy tales". This is a forum, not a congregation of sissies, but you're free to report the image, if you feel you must. Neither do I acknowledge "delusional" as an insult, when the targeted poster previously called valvpitty "foolish fanboy".

Sometimes, you just have to look at both sides.
Either way, feel free to ignore what you don't like or, if you want to do something productive about what troubles you, report it.

 

[Forever The Best]

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Lol at the Froome, Evans and Quintana fanboys coming over to the thread, saying 'delusional', posting some images to insult etc.

Though, he doesn't look good this year and his chances take a single win this year (nvm the Tour) is very low.

No need to be mad. If you're so superior to "those fanboys" (funny that this still is an appreciation thread), ignore them.

I obviously disagree with what YouYou said. But I don't post some images to insult, say 'delusional' etc.

Don't know what image you're referring to, since "believing in unicorns" is equal to "believing in fairy tales". This is a forum, not a congregation of sissies, but you're free to report the image, if you feel you must. Neither do I acknowledge "delusional" as an insult, when the targeted poster previously called valvpitty "foolish fanboy".

Sometimes, you just have to look at both sides.
Either way, feel free to ignore what you don't like or, if you want to do something productive about what troubles you, report it.

Oh, totally forgot about what YouYou said. :redface: Nvm the deluisonal part then, since YouYou started it.

The image looked to me that you wanted to wind-up a bit while trying to show some superiority.

 

[benzwire]

I would say that maybe he was holding back some, getting in racing miles, but as we all know with Contador, he can't restrain himself. If he had the form to challenge Froome and Porte, he would have been there.

 

[Publicus]

I need to see the climb again, but I'm certainly not going to panic about his form, or suggest that he won't be up with the best at the Tour.

 

[Blanco]

Not bad considering he said he isn't close to top shape yet. We will know better in the upcoming stages.

 

[Escarabajo]

He looked OK and as he promised, he did not show urgency like other times.

 

[portugal11]

I'm 100% sure he will be better in the next stages. The problem is: contador in top shape is able to follow froome in top shape (specially in climbs like PDBF)? I think not...

 

[bajbar]

Really strange stage... Contadot didn't even try to follow. He usually tries and cracks. This time he just didn't accelerate. Simple as that... Like he wasn't even interested... Didn't push much on the descent either...

 

[Climber123]

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Really strange stage... Contadot didn't even try to follow. He usually tries and cracks. This time he just didn't accelerate. Simple as that... Like he wasn't even interested... Didn't push much on the descent either...

Exactly!