Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Netserk]

That'd be priceless!

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

Since Contador is scheduled as a special guest for tomorrow's Giro route presentation and given Vegni is talking about surprises on the start list: Any chance Contador actually races the Giro for Israel Cycling Academy after all!?

Lol, I don't think so, just this morning he said in an interview he is 6.5kg heavier now than at the Vuelta or maybe he is starting the sandbagging early this time

The surprise on the startlist is definitely Froome

 

[perico]

What is this all about?

http://amp.europapress.es/deportes/ciclismo-00396/noticia-contador-expone-planes-futuro-martes-desayunos-deportivos-europa-press-20171127123314.html

 

[LaFlorecita]

What is this all about?

http://amp.europapress.es/deportes/ciclismo-00396/noticia-contador-expone-planes-futuro-martes-desayunos-deportivos-europa-press-20171127123314.html

Just an interview. Not a lot of new info.

 

[arvc40]

Re: Re:

Since Contador is scheduled as a special guest for tomorrow's Giro route presentation and given Vegni is talking about surprises on the start list: Any chance Contador actually races the Giro for Israel Cycling Academy after all!?

Lol, I don't think so, just this morning he said in an interview he is 6.5kg heavier now than at the Vuelta or maybe he is starting the sandbagging early this time

The surprise on the startlist is definitely Froome

6.5 kg !, that's nothing. 10 kg after Christmas, 12.5kg by time Froome takes Giro and 16kg once the Double is achieved. Should hit 20kg by Christmas 2018.

 

[portugal11]

Re: Re:

Since Contador is scheduled as a special guest for tomorrow's Giro route presentation and given Vegni is talking about surprises on the start list: Any chance Contador actually races the Giro for Israel Cycling Academy after all!?

Lol, I don't think so, just this morning he said in an interview he is 6.5kg heavier now than at the Vuelta or maybe he is starting the sandbagging early this time

The surprise on the startlist is definitely Froome

the great one is becoming chubby :surprised:

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

Since Contador is scheduled as a special guest for tomorrow's Giro route presentation and given Vegni is talking about surprises on the start list: Any chance Contador actually races the Giro for Israel Cycling Academy after all!?

Lol, I don't think so, just this morning he said in an interview he is 6.5kg heavier now than at the Vuelta or maybe he is starting the sandbagging early this time

The surprise on the startlist is definitely Froome

the great one is becoming chubby :surprised:

He warned us but it's not that bad, he looks normal now

 

[yaco]

To me it looks like Contador has put on around 3kg - He's hiding the 6.5kg weight gain.

 

[Gigs_98]

Ehen arter the end of his career the debate about Contador's weight goes on. :lol:

 

[LaFlorecita]

Contador’s formula for great grand tours: Short stages, no power meters

http://www.velonews.com/2017/11/news/contadors-formula-for-great-grand-tours-short-stages-no-power-meters_452508

 

[Forever The Best]

Contador’s formula for great grand tours: Short stages, no power meters

http://www.velonews.com/2017/11/news/contadors-formula-for-great-grand-tours-short-stages-no-power-meters_452508

Several short stages without any test of endurance? Just no. Cycling is an endurance sport, not some W/Kg final MTF shootout or some 1-2 min glorified uphill/flat sprints.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Contador’s formula for great grand tours: Short stages, no power meters

http://www.velonews.com/2017/11/news/contadors-formula-for-great-grand-tours-short-stages-no-power-meters_452508

Several short stages without any test of endurance? Just no. Cycling is an endurance sport, not some W/Kg final MTF shootout or some 1-2 min glorified uphill/flat sprints.

A 100km stage with action straight from the gun is more a test of endurance than a 200km stage with a 30-minute effort at the end.

 

[Forever The Best]

Contador’s formula for great grand tours: Short stages, no power meters

http://www.velonews.com/2017/11/news/contadors-formula-for-great-grand-tours-short-stages-no-power-meters_452508

Several short stages without any test of endurance? Just no. Cycling is an endurance sport, not some W/Kg final MTF shootout or some 1-2 min glorified uphill/flat sprints.

A 100km stage with action straight from the gun is more a test of endurance than a 200km stage with a 30-minute effort at the end.

Yeah but if you always put 100 km stages teveryone will be fresh on the first couple and attackers won't get away. Just see AC at Arrate '12. He attacks several times but the big group is only 6-7 seconds behind because everyone is fresh.
And if the in the other short stages(previous stages are short) everyone will be fresh again because of having gazillion of different type of sprints so that they are not tired and the attackers get pulled back because of this. The Foix stage only worked because Sky decided to not chase. If Froome would have been in yellow coming to that stage Contador would have been reeled and it would have been a very boring stage. Formigal worked because it came after a high multi-mountain stage of around 200 km to Aubisque.

Short stage after a long, brutal stage? Great
Several short stages like this years Tour with the shortest being 65 km? Horrible.

 

[jens_attacks]

he gave too many interviews in the last 2 months.
take a break, take a kitkat alberto.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

he gave too many interviews in the last 2 months.
take a break, take a kitkat alberto.

Not too many kitkats, Berto, you've already gained 6.5kg

To be serious, he says he is traveling more since he retired than when he was still a pro.

 

[LaFlorecita]

On the 12th of December, Alberto will receive the "Legend" award at the 2017 Gazzetta dello Sport Awards show, together with retired football player Francesco Totti. Interestingly, Alberto is the only foreigner among the winners and nominees.

 

[Carols]

Re:

On the 12th of December, Alberto will receive the "Legend" award at the 2017 Gazzetta dello Sport Awards show, together with retired football player Francesco Totti. Interestingly, Alberto is the only foreigner among the winners and nominees.

Well Deserved!!!

 

[Pennino]

Hey Flo, do you already know how to receive a copy of the Ciclismo a Fondo Contador special edition in the Netherlands? I bought the newest edition last week on Tenerife (with another 12 page interview, excellent stuff by the way), but that one wasn't available anymore in the kiosk.

 

[LaFlorecita]

You can buy it online but you need credit card
http://motorpress.suscripcionesrevistas.es/deportes/ciclismo-a-fondo
If you want order one, let me know, it's possible to order multiple in the same order for the same shipping fee, maybe you could order the special and the latest edition for me and I could pay you the money because I don't have a credit card

 

[Carols]

Happy Birthday Great One!!

Enjoy a piece of birthday cake, now that is possible!

 

[LaFlorecita]

Alberto and Ivan have been invited as special guests to the new Colombian UCI race Colombia Oro y Paz, I wonder if the Polartec-Kometa team will be invited as well ?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Alberto underwent surgery yesterday to reconstruct a torn ligament in his wrist, which had been bothering him for over a year. Probably the result of one of his many crashes Everything went well, fortunately
https://as.com/ciclismo/2017/12/07/mas_ciclismo/1512673442_812391.html

 

[yaco]

Seems like Alberto could be busier in retirement - Think we'll see him as a guest at a number of races in 2018

 

[Gigs_98]

From the Dumoulin thread:

Multiple crashes in 2015 too, and a team half set up to win the green jersey.

And Contador in 2015 was going for holding all 3 at once

Just like froome next year. Actually froome even goes for 4 in a row.

About contador's 2011 crashes, I'm still not sure whether the crashes really had such a big impact on his performance. As someone has already mentioned he had some really good days which I think are unlikely to have if you are injured. That sounds more like he had bad days which happen when you are tired due to a 2nd gt in a row.

My understanding is that while his crashes didn't (particularly) injure him, they did drain him and in large part (together with restday magic™) explain why he was worse in the Pyrenees than he was overall in the third week.

The pyrenees didn't cost him the tour though. And even if he didn't crash, judging from shape in the alps, he would not have been able to gain a lot of time in the pyrenees anyway. All things considered and assuming that he maybe would have been a little bit better in the alps as well if the crashes hadn't happened, I think he could have been quite close to Evans, but I doubt he could have beaten him.

 

[gregrowlerson]

From the Dumoulin thread:

Multiple crashes in 2015 too, and a team half set up to win the green jersey.

And Contador in 2015 was going for holding all 3 at once

Just like froome next year. Actually froome even goes for 4 in a row.

About contador's 2011 crashes, I'm still not sure whether the crashes really had such a big impact on his performance. As someone has already mentioned he had some really good days which I think are unlikely to have if you are injured. That sounds more like he had bad days which happen when you are tired due to a 2nd gt in a row.

My understanding is that while his crashes didn't (particularly) injure him, they did drain him and in large part (together with restday magic™) explain why he was worse in the Pyrenees than he was overall in the third week.

The pyrenees didn't cost him the tour though. And even if he didn't crash, judging from shape in the alps, he would not have been able to gain a lot of time in the pyrenees anyway. All things considered and assuming that he maybe would have been a little bit better in the alps as well if the crashes hadn't happened, I think he could have been quite close to Evans, but I doubt he could have beaten him.

Contador was probably lucky that the racing was so timid on PDB. And if he hadn't lost the time in week 1 then it might have been more aggressive, and he may have lost minutes on that stage (given his late stage collapse).