Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Cimber]

CAS about the Tour team: "There are probably seven riders in the Saxo-Tinkoff line-up as it is right now but I'm not one of them. I'm on the periphery of riders of the final line-up"

So 7 guys pre-selected (CAS not among them), and 2 open slots.

 

[notrolfsorensen]

Here's the link: http://teamsaxotinkoff.com/ny_news.asp?n_id=4043

So who is the seven if CAS (and by the way Mørkøv) is not in?
Alberto
Rogers
Jesus
Kreuziger
Roche

thats 5. Who is the last two? Benatti and Nicki Sørensen i guess... There's actually a lot of flat km this year so strong TTT'ers could be useful. Paulinho, Mørkøv, CAS, Noval(surely not), Petrov (due to strong Giro) Tosatto must be the final 6 fighting for 2 places. Sponsors would be happiest to see CAS and Mørkøv - they were the best from Saxo last tour. Both are OK in a TTT + CAS is strong(ish) i the mountains.

 

[Cimber]

Here's the link: http://teamsaxotinkoff.com/ny_news.asp?n_id=4043

So who is the seven if CAS (and by the way Mørkøv) is not in?
Alberto
Rogers
Jesus
Kreuziger
Roche

thats 5. Who is the last two? Benatti and Nicki Sørensen i guess... There's actually a lot of flat km this year so strong TTT'ers could be useful. Paulinho, Mørkøv, CAS, Noval(surely not), Petrov (due to strong Giro) Tosatto must be the final 6 fighting for 2 places. Sponsors would be happiest to see CAS and Mørkøv - they were the best from Saxo last tour. Both are OK in a TTT + CAS is strong(ish) i the mountains.

Dont think Tinkov cares to much (0; And tbh I dont think Saxo cares much either.

CAS it not a good TTTer, Mørkøv is though.

And yep I think Benatti and Nicki might be among the preselected, but its interessting that Nicki is due to ride both Daupliné and Tour of Luxembourg. None of the other Tour candidates seem to ride anything but TDS and Dauphiné before the Tour.

 

[notrolfsorensen]

And tbh I dont think Saxo cares much either.

Well they are the ones that get interviewed the most for danish TV so i think they have some comercial value...

CAS it not a good TTTer,

I did say OK not good But CAS is actually better in a TTT than in a regular TT. But if they go to win the TTT CAS might not be in it and Mørkøv would be the better fit a long with Tosatto/Petrov i guess

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Does saxo-tinkoff have a forum like CSC used to have?

 

[peloton]

No, but I think it's clear that he greatly dislikes Sky, Froome and especially Wiggins.

Can't say about Sky or Wiggins, but Contador tried to get Froome to Saxo, so not sure how greatly he dislikes him...

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to the next races!

 

[peloton]

Does saxo-tinkoff have a forum like CSC used to have?

same forum, different name
http://forum.teamsaxobanktinkoffbank.com/

 

[Zam_Olyas]

same forum, different name
http://forum.teamsaxobanktinkoffbank.com/

Thanks, but Ivan Basso aint riding for csc anymore.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Dont think Tinkov cares to much (0; And tbh I dont think Saxo cares much either.

CAS it not a good TTTer, Mørkøv is though.

And yep I think Benatti and Nicki might be among the preselected, but its interessting that Nicki is due to ride both Daupliné and Tour of Luxembourg. None of the other Tour candidates seem to ride anything but TDS and Dauphiné before the Tour.

yup I agree because Bennati tweeted something about his next races being suisse and tdf and Nicki was left out of the giro team to race tdf I think.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I think the tour team will be

Alberto
Jesus
Roche
Kreuziger
Rogers
Bennati
N Sorensen
and
Tosatto
CAS

by the way I don't think Alberto dislikes sky or wiggins or Froome. Froome and Alberto were chatting a lot in oman and seemed very friendly

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

The dawg could use some of that laughing gas Contador used there.

 

[Miburo]

This was as fake as it can get "Just you wait for the tour 'skyborg'". That's what that meant.

 

[Angliru]

No, but I think it's clear that he greatly dislikes Sky, Froome and especially Wiggins.

I take it back Airstream. Now this here is a prime example of an overactive imagination. I don't see how one could come to the conclusion that you (@JRanton) have here.

 

[Cimber]

I take it back Airstream. Now this here is a prime example of an overactive imagination. I don't see how one could come to the conclusion that you (@JRanton) have here.

I guess this is what JRantons line of thinking was when writing that: A lot of posters on this forum, especially the ones who are fans of Contador, dislike Sky, Wiggings and to some extend Froome (though he is a lot more agressive rider than Wiggo). And then he, JRanton, simply concluded that if some Contador fans dislikes SKy/WIggo/Froome surely Contador himself must strongly dislike them too. Weird conclusion indeed.

 

[King Boonen]

I guess this is what JRantons line of thinking was when writing that: A lot of posters on this forum, especially the ones who are fans of Contador, dislike Sky, Wiggings and to some extend Froome (though he is a lot more agressive rider than Wiggo). And then he, JRanton, simply concluded that if some Contador fans dislikes SKy/WIggo/Froome surely Contador himself must strongly dislike them too. Weird conclusion indeed.

Very strange. The way Sky ride is perfect for a guy like Bertie, he can hitch a lift on the train then jump out when he knows he can sustain it until the end. He should love Sky, they can take a huge amount of the work off other teams. The fact that Sky will probably ride like that even if they don't have the Yellow Jersey is another big plus.

 

[Afrank]

by the way I don't think Alberto dislikes sky or wiggins or Froome. Froome and Alberto were chatting a lot in oman and seemed very friendly

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Contador's was just luring Froome into a false sense of security with all the chatting. Make him think they are friends, get him to drop his guard, and reveal all of Sky's secrets to him.

 

[Angliru]

I guess this is what JRantons line of thinking was when writing that: A lot of posters on this forum, especially the ones who are fans of Contador, dislike Sky, Wiggings and to some extend Froome (though he is a lot more agressive rider than Wiggo). And then he, JRanton, simply concluded that if some Contador fans dislikes SKy/WIggo/Froome surely Contador himself must strongly dislike them too. Weird conclusion indeed.

Even stranger is how a rider can be disliked by some here based primarily on the degree of his popularity in the cn forum, and by how annoyed one gets by those in the forum that support that rider.

 

[Cimber]

Even stranger is how a rider can be disliked by some here based primarily on the degree of his popularity in the cn forum, and by how annoyed one gets by those in the forum that support that rider.

I dont think anyone dislikes particular riders cos of cn popularity. Cant rule out that it happens but in general I dont recall that being a tendency here. But I might be wrong cos cn has changed the last few years. Alot new ppl here who are new to the sport. Not a bad thing per say, just different

 

[morpheus_p]

Contador's was just luring Froome into a false sense of security with all the chatting. Make him think they are friends, get him to drop his guard, and reveal all of Sky's secrets to him.

he's telling him that wearing his glasses under the helmet strap violates rule #37

 

[Angliru]

I dont think anyone dislikes particular riders cos of cn popularity. Cant rule out that it happens but in general I dont recall that being a tendency here. But I might be wrong cos cn has changed the last few years. Alot new ppl here who are new to the sport. Not a bad thing per say, just different

The keyword in my post is "primarily". I've seen posts where it's stated that the tenor or vigor by which some support certain riders drives them to root for that rider's failure. I agree that cn has changed over the years but in time the "newbies" as they're called will stick with the sport, enhance their overall knowledge and hopefully be curious enough to familiarize themselves with the sport's great history.

 

[LaFlorecita]

The keyword in my post is "primarily". I've seen posts where it's stated that the tenor or vigor by which some support certain riders drives them to root for that rider's failure. I agree that cn has changed over the years but in time the "newbies" as their called will stick with the sport, enhance their overall knowledge and hopefully be curious enough to familiarize themselves with the sport's great history.

I guess that was me

 

[Angliru]

I guess that was me

I'm quite certain it wasn't just you. There are more than a few, including myself, that have probably rubbed some on cn the wrong way with their support of a particular rider but so what? I wouldn't doubt that I'm on a few "ignore" lists.
I look at it like this: some riders obtain such an emotional following that they become like a home team, one that you might take personal certain derogatory comments or slights directed directed their way. Maybe I'm different, but I feel a certain loyalty to riders that have brought me joy in watching them perform their craft, and feel a need to come to their defense when I feel a wrong is being done to them.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I'm quite certain it wasn't just you. There are more than a few, including myself, that have probably rubbed some on cn the wrong way with their support of a particular rider but so what? I wouldn't doubt that I'm on a few "ignore" lists.
I look at it like this: some riders obtain such an emotional following that they become like a home team, one that you might take personal certain derogatory comments or slights directed directed their way. Maybe I'm different, but I feel a certain loyalty to riders that have brought me joy in watching them perform their craft, and feel a need to come to their defense when I feel a wrong is being done to them.

Oh okay, I thought you meant me because during the giro the nibali hype annoyed me a bit.. but I guess you weren't around much

I completely understand you, I feel the same way about certain riders.

 

[airstream]

Oh okay, I thought you meant me because during the giro the nibali hype annoyed me a bit.. but I guess you weren't around much

I completely understand you, I feel the same way about certain riders.

Then you should be ready for one day when forum becomes hell for you. Don't worry so much. The forum is doomed to collide with someone's hype everyonce in a while

 

[Angliru]

Oh okay, I thought you meant me because during the giro the nibali hype annoyed me a bit.. but I guess you weren't around much

I completely understand you, I feel the same way about certain riders.

Actually I quite like Nibali. Yeah, I wasn't around enough to notice or have an opinion either way on whatever Nibali-hype took place in May. I personally don't think he gets the respect that he deserves.