Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[LaFlorecita]

See I don't think it is as simple as you put it to be. People like an under-dog to which Contador is one now.

Despite this, I still regard people who attack Froome but follow Contador as hypocrites for following him considering his past.

If you're saying Alberto only has a lot of fans because he's the underdog now, I'm going to call BS on that.

Fact: Alberto had lots and lots of fans before he tested positive.
Fact: Alberto had lots and lots of fans after he tested positive.
Fact: Alberto had lots and lots of fans after he got banned.

He is the underdog right now and that has certainly made him even more popular though.

 

[murali]

Hitch technically isn't saying he became more popular after his ban but I can imagine la vuelta won him some fans.

it was the veulta for me.

plus, he didnt repudiate that he ate beef, and took whatever ban was given to him in his own stride.

 

[murali]

Riis about the tactics: http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/539362/bjarne-riis-we-ll-isolate-froome.html

Why do these DSs think that isolating Froome is the first step. If Froome is isolated, then Movistar will ride for him.

I just hope tht AC does one of his long range attacks

 

[Cimber]

Riis "we are ready to attack. It will be firework"

http://sporten.tv2.dk/tour/2013-07-10-riis-klar-til-vilde-angreb-det-bliver-et-festfyrværkeri

 

[jens_attacks]

one thing is for sure: this race is not over. you just can't let froomey win so easy

 

[SilentAssassin]

I hope Contador tests him at Ventoux. Gotta get Froome in the red to win.

 

[Cimber]

one thing is for sure: this race is not over. you just can't let froomey win so easy

It really depends on wether Saxo and Movistar will ride against eachother or against Froome

 

[murali]

Froome still needs to get his instructions from the radio to decide whether he should follow an attack or ride tempo to neutralize the attack.

I haven't actually seen froome respond successfully to multiple attacks like the way AC used to do.

I think surprise is the key to beat froome. Thats the only reason AC will dominate froome.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Riis "we are ready to attack. It will be firework"

http://sporten.tv2.dk/tour/2013-07-10-riis-klar-til-vilde-angreb-det-bliver-et-festfyrværkeri

I think the attacks will have to come from Roman. Alberto is not strong enough. But Roman's final placing is important for the team. Dillemma.

I am also afraid if Saxo attack, Movistar will chase to secure Valverde's second place. Belkin will be happy with two top 10. It'll have to come from saxo. I just hope they're strong enough but I doubt it.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I hope Contador tests him at Ventoux. Gotta get Froome in the red to win.

Haha it's hard to test someone who's 1k up the road

 

[airstream]

Ignore list is getting longer. It's good, that there are people who help me in this way. On the other hand I can't understand the others why are they replying to him.

Being vulnerable like a kid and at the same time writing 'he's nothing compared to Alberto' is an explosive mixture.

 

[airstream]

Airstream wtf. No Alberto is not at his vuelta level. That's pure BS.

Sorry, I rate overall classification a bit higher than visual perception.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Okay after reading thijs zonneveld's column I am sure movistar will chase saxo. He basically confirms Alejandro and Alberto hate each other and Alejandro is only worried about beating Alberto.

 

[acesand]

Tinkov went full r***** on twitter yesterday. Sitting in his Toscana villa and basically bashing everything he could tinkov. One of my favourites:

Oleg Tinkov ‏@olegtinkov 11h
Chris Froome is surprisingly strong. But I still in believe with @TeamSaxoTinkoff and @albertocontador . Guys let's fire, go and [explicit] them!

https://twitter.com/olegtinkov

 

[jens_attacks]

yep seems like i had exaxtly the same thought as tinkov. there is hope

 

[airstream]

Okay after reading thijs zonneveld's column I am sure movistar will chase saxo. He basically confirms Alejandro and Alberto hate each other and Alejandro is only worried about beating Alberto.

No wonder remembering the 2008 and 12 Vueltas...

 

[Ruudz0r]

Tinkov went full r***** on twitter yesterday. Sitting in his Toscana villa and basically bashing everything he could tinkov. One of my favourites:

Oleg Tinkov ‏@olegtinkov 11h
Chris Froome is surprisingly strong. But I still in believe with @TeamSaxoTinkoff and @albertocontador . Guys let's fire, go and [explicit] them!

https://twitter.com/olegtinkov

Ye he went full genius (He was very drunk, or he was hacked), i like it!

And remember WORLD #Russia and #tcsbank have been never defeated in the history! We own 30% of the World's terra, why we give up #TdF ? NO!

Who is gonna win #TdF2013 ? Yes, #TdF will win @albertocontador !
He must, the bridges are fired. We will help, $$$ are available @tcsbank

Is he suggesting he is going to bribe some teams/people?

Oleg Tinkov‏@olegtinkov10u
No Mercy for SKY, I watch @YouTube anyway! From Saturday on, GO and tore them apart OR die on the road, my dear @TeamSaxoTinkoff . $$$$$$$$$

 

[airstream]

Tinkoff seems very [ I don't know how to say it in English] épatage only on twitter. In Eurosport interviews he's quite reserved and says he realizes how it is difficult and too competitive to win the Tour.

 

[LaFlorecita]

No wonder remembering the 2008 and 12 Vueltas...

Apparently it started after stage 4 vuelta 2012.

 

[darwin553]

What Nobody even knew Froome when Alberto tested positive

In this situation, Froome may as well be Wiggins/A.Schleck/C.Evans (whoever AC's main competitor was for the respective year's tour) but I fear that the even greater competitiveness of Froome has strengthened AC's fans' resolve even more against him in particular.

 

[Carols]

Okay after reading thijs zonneveld's column I am sure movistar will chase saxo. He basically confirms Alejandro and Alberto hate each other and Alejandro is only worried about beating Alberto.

Is there a link to this column?

 

[Pulpstar]

Tinkov's best bet would be to offer up some nice Tuscany villas for the Belkin boys. Movistar - well they want to beat Saxo I think, sad but true so they can't really be counted as allies but perhaps helping to seal the Polka-dots for Pierre, a stage win for Andy and some sort of Belkin alliance they can find enough Allies there...

 

[LaFlorecita]

Is there a link to this column?

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/5598/Sportco...alverde-hebben-een-grafhekel-aan-elkaar.dhtml in dutch

 

[darwin553]

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/5598/Sportco...alverde-hebben-een-grafhekel-aan-elkaar.dhtml in dutch

Can you translate it into English for us?

 

[ThirdWorld]

Is there a link to this column?

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/5598/Sportco...alverde-hebben-een-grafhekel-aan-elkaar.dhtml

I did not believe in this info... that valverde and ac dislike each other... in the dauphine some years ago, AC did help Valverde against Evans...

And the reason that Thijs said that valverde dislike contador is because of what happened in last year vuelta... I remember that vavlerde was sad with sky, not with Alberto...

And it is normal to Valverde be enthusiastic with the time that he is ahead of contador.. it is the first time that this happen in a GT!