Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Red Rick]

Secret masterplan is obviously to dislocate the other shoulder too in order to unlock the new superhuman tt position, allowing him to put minutes into his opponents

 

[Jelantik]

2014 ITT (on 3rd day after rest day - for total of 11 racing days)

• Days ridden after rest day: 433
  Length: 42km
  Result:
  Uran beats Aru 3.37
  Uran beats Majka 1.39

2015 ITT (on 5th day after rest day - for total of 13 racing days)

• Days ridden after rest day: 690 (257 more than 2014)
  Length: 59.2km (17.2 km more than 2014)

Based on last year ITT with earlier day after rest day, shorter ITT length, and less racing days/mileage - Aru lost 3.37 from Uran and Majka lost 1.39. But Aru should be improving this year even though he'll be loosing more time than Contador. Contador on the other hand is a better TT-er than Majka. Porte - I don't know.

Logically, looking at the amount of accumulated racing miles, what days ITT falls in 3 weeks schedule and length of ITT, I think everyone will be much more tired than last year (especially factor in the 9 hard racing days previously - read mick rogers' comment). So the gap might not be as much as what we think (seconds vs minutes?). Porte and Uran is great ITT. But the ITT is placed toward the end of week 2 that might play significant role in results compare to last year. So it may come down to who has the best form and the fresher leg than who's the specialist? (dunno). Besides it's not uncommon a specialist got beaten by a non specialist either. Or god knows, maybe contador and aru will bleed minutes or none at all or Porte isn't taking that much time as it widely expected (like froome 2014 vuelta) After all, this is cycling. Nothing is predictable..

 

[WheelofGear]

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I'm not so sure that will eventually change the position. There are still five days, there is time to recover

And then we know him , often spreads nice lies

Today a pro rider told me that a friend of him saw Contador on TV spanish program with crutches, after to be 4 hours trining... It is his way, he say now he will lose aerodinamic...for sure he wont, it is just the same theatre than ever, becouse from tomorrow onwards that illness is totally the past.

He said as well the clims are very soft, where both of them has sections plus than 10 %.. of course is not an ITT for climbers, it is ideal for Tony Martin, but the climbs are not soft.

Nah. It's soft climbs. Tony Martin is better on climbs like this than the actual climbers.

Ignore the misleading 12,2% and look for the grade for every 0.5k.

 

[WheelofGear]

Contador should try to gain a couple of seconds and maybe bonus seconds on Porte on stage 12. Same with Aru.

Because this is a serious time trial.

 

[ray j willings]

Secret masterplan is obviously to dislocate the other shoulder too in order to unlock the new superhuman tt position, allowing him to put minutes into his opponents

Sky already have a team of scientists and Dr's on the case.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I'm not so sure that will eventually change the position. There are still five days, there is time to recover

And then we know him , often spreads nice lies

Today a pro rider told me that a friend of him saw Contador on TV spanish program with crutches, after to be 4 hours training... It is his way, he say now he will lose aerodinamic...for sure he wont, it is just the same theatre than ever, becouse from tomorrow onwards that illness is totally the past.

He said as well the climbs are very soft, where both of them has sections plus than 10 %.. of course is not an ITT for climbers, it is ideal for Tony Martin, but the climbs are not soft.

That is some BS... that was like 2 days afterwards. Sorry Taxus, I don't believe you (or the pro rider or his friend)

 

[ILovecycling]

http://www.steephill.tv/players/720/dailymotion/?title=Rest+Day+1+Alberto+Contador+interview&dashboard=giro-d-italia&id=x2ql6ov&yr=2015

Interview with AC during a rest day

 

[LaFlorecita]

Contador, what a liar, I mean here we have a rider who comes down quite hard and injures his shoulder,mentions in a interview that he will have to change his TT position so he will be more comfortable
What a bastard. I mean Porte and Aru's heads will be spinning, just how many cm's will Bertie move his arms on the bars

You cheeky Bertie haters.

good post ray. people just can't admit Berto is awesome.

Secret masterplan is obviously to dislocate the other shoulder too in order to unlock the new superhuman tt position, allowing him to put minutes into his opponents

Sky already have a team of scientists and Dr's on the case.

 

[clippittee]

LOL, at first glance, I really thought it was a camel.

 

[SeriousSam]

Did Bert get a helicopter ride like Porte?

 

[forumlurker]

AC is a beast. If you can't put time on him (ok, 1 second...) with his injuries, you ain't gonna beat him. Haters can go suck it, cuz he is gonna be in pink for 17 days and win again.

 

[Red Rick]

I think there's a pretty good chance for Aru to take pink in the uphill sprint in Vicenza, couple of tough climbs Astana can drill, if they get there with a reduced peloton Aru may very well get some of those bonifications

 

[Carols]

Full transcript of Alberto's press conference yesterday:
http://www.tinkoffsaxo.com/news/alberto-contador-each-day-after-my-crash-ive-been-getting-better/

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Did Bert get a helicopter ride like Porte?

Probably. Top 3 in GC I guess.

 

[SeriousSam]

Nah Richie got one because Dave arranged one. The question is whether Oleg and Alexander did likewise.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Nah Richie got one because Dave arranged one. The question is whether Oleg and Alexander did likewise.

I did not spot Alberto in pictures of the T-S team bus during the transfer, and GT organizers often organize helicopter rides for the leaders so they don't have to spend 4 hours on the team bus.

 

[Vino's Mum]

Shoulder a lot better today then...

 

[SeriousSam]

Great day for Contador with Porte having that mechanical. Bert's chances to keep the maglia rosa after the TT are now much better. If so, the Giro is pretty much won and he won't have to go nuclear in the mountains and can just follow Aru and Porte, out-sprinting them in last 800m like he did with Froome last year. Meaning he can save energy for the Tour.

The double is ON

 

[ILovecycling]

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Great day for Contador with Porte having that mechanical. Bert's chances to keep the maglia rosa after the TT are now much better. If so, the Giro is pretty much won and he won't have to go nuclear in the mountains and can just follow Aru and Porte, out-sprinting them in last 800m like he did with Froome last year. Meaning he can save energy for the Tour.

The double is ON

I hope you are right, but its still long way off


VAM9S

 

[arvc40]

Re:

GT 9 Getting closer !

 

[SeriousSam]

It's either GT 7 or GT 8

 

[Carols]

Wow he lifted his left arm for the first time since the crash. Shoulder must be getting better . Hopefully it will be good enough by Saturday to ride his normal ITT position!

 

[Red Rick]

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It's either GT 7 or GT 8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVC_g68nUpo

Sorry, but I couldn't resist, in both senses of the word

 

[damian13ster]

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Great day for Contador with Porte having that mechanical. Bert's chances to keep the maglia rosa after the TT are now much better. If so, the Giro is pretty much won and he won't have to go nuclear in the mountains and can just follow Aru and Porte, out-sprinting them in last 800m like he did with Froome last year. Meaning he can save energy for the Tour.

The double is ON

I hope you are right, but its still long way off


VAM9S

So what you are hoping for is worst win in GT history?
That would be in way worse style than Wiggins in Tour de France 2012 and Contador in Vuelta 2014.
At least in those mentioned cases time was gained in individual time trial, and then there was wheelsucking until the end.
In this case it would be time gained through Team Time Trial, opponent mechanical on pancake- flat stage and then wheelsucking until the end.

Don't get your thinking at all

 

[The_Cheech]

Re: Re:

Great day for Contador with Porte having that mechanical. Bert's chances to keep the maglia rosa after the TT are now much better. If so, the Giro is pretty much won and he won't have to go nuclear in the mountains and can just follow Aru and Porte, out-sprinting them in last 800m like he did with Froome last year. Meaning he can save energy for the Tour.

The double is ON

I hope you are right, but its still long way off


VAM9S

So what you are hoping for is worst win in GT history?
That would be in way worse style than Wiggins in Tour de France 2012 and Contador in Vuelta 2014.
At least in those mentioned cases time was gained in individual time trial, and then there was wheelsucking until the end.
In this case it would be time gained through Team Time Trial, opponent mechanical on pancake- flat stage and then wheelsucking until the end.

Don't get your thinking at all

Technically, if you wheelsuck "until the end" you do not win, it's a universal truth.

Froome rode his race and lost. Simple as that.

Cycling is easy: If you're in front, you can take a passive role and let others make the race entertaining. Froome tried and lost.

Let it go.