Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Billopoulos]

Indeed, yesterday he was standing on the flat before the climb as well, when he was not pushing at all so it cannot be thaaat bad.

 

[Miburo]

Really sucks that this happened, today would have been ideal for an attack!

 

[buchanan]

I will be surprised if he doesn't lose 1-2 minutes today.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Really sucks that this happened, today would have been ideal for an attack!

I definitely expected him to attack here. So unfortunate

 

[Red Rick]

Maybe he'll attack as "its gonna hurt for me anyway"

 

[rhubroma]

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Where does this "can't stand on the pedals" come from. I've seen him out of the saddle many times, sure it may be painful but it's not as if he's physically incapable.

Do you read the reports? I was referring to two days ago when his DS said Alberto couldn't get out of the saddle because of being battered by the two crashes, which is why he lost those 48 seconds.

He may have improved yesterday and was able to stand up. Let's hope so, he will need it today.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

People here are being way too mean to Taxus.

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Where does this "can't stand on the pedals" come from. I've seen him out of the saddle many times, sure it may be painful but it's not as if he's physically incapable.

Yes exactly, I think on stage 2 he couldn't get out of he saddle, but yesterday he just said it still hurts when he gets out the saddle.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

You don't need to stand up to attack.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Where does this "can't stand on the pedals" come from. I've seen him out of the saddle many times, sure it may be painful but it's not as if he's physically incapable.

Do you read the reports? I was referring to two days ago when his DS said Alberto couldn't get out of the saddle because of being battered by the two crashes, which is why he lost those 48 seconds.

He may have improved yesterday and was able to stand up. Let's hope so, he will need it today.

I saw those reports, and I'm still unsure what to make of "he couldn't stand up to the climb". That doesn't seem like a normal way to say "he wasn't able to get out of the saddle on the climb".
He was out of the saddle on stage 2 anyway. Maybe not on the final climb though.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Maybe he'll attack as "its gonna hurt for me anyway"

"I feel bad, might as well attack"

 

[King Boonen]

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Where does this "can't stand on the pedals" come from. I've seen him out of the saddle many times, sure it may be painful but it's not as if he's physically incapable.

Do you read the reports? I was referring to two days ago when his DS said Alberto couldn't get out of the saddle because of being battered by the two crashes, which is why he lost those 48 seconds.

He may have improved yesterday and was able to stand up. Let's hope so, he will need it today.

I saw those reports, and I'm still unsure what to make of "he couldn't stand up to the climb". That doesn't seem like a normal way to say "he wasn't able to get out of the saddle on the climb".
He was out of the saddle on stage 2 anyway. Maybe not on the final climb though.

Came from DeJongh. That's exactly how you would say it in the English vernacular. Getting out of the saddle just implies the lifting your bum part, standing implies staying out of the saddle.

Hopefully today will actually be quite good for him. It's doesn't suit Froome to get big gaps but Sky will have to keep an eye on Movistar, Contador might just be able to follow wheels and test his legs a bit to see how they are doing.

 

[Matteo.]

I'm curious to see what happen. But if he is dropped hardly it will be also his fault givin his constant complaints which incited the others to attack

 

[miha1234]

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I'm curious to see what happen. But if he is dropped hardly it will be also his fault givin his constant complaints which incited the others to attack

When Contador complains, this is indication that he will attack and that his form is very very good

 

[Matteo.]

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I'm curious to see what happen. But if he is dropped hardly it will be also his fault givin his constant complaints which incited the others to attack

When Contador complains, this is indication that he will attack and that his form is very very good

We hope. After a career which has shown extraordinary intelligence , I can not believe he is definitely crazy

 

[Kwibus]

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Well, everyone has seen the skin he lost in the first crash. That doesn't heal in just a few days. If anything he's bluffing to make it not seem so bad, but the time he lost after the secong crash, when he couldn't stand on the pedals during the explosive finish of that stage, and his grimacing face on the run-in to yesterday's finish let's us know that he is still not well.

It will thus be hard for him to match the other top contenders at the end of today. But if he does that would be encouraging for the Pyrenees.

Terpstra was on the radio yesterday and he said that the wounds Contador has will need atleast 2 weeks to heal. He will always feel them when he's trying to sleep and race. Ofcourse it's a pain Contador can handle, but his body is working to heal as well.

He expected Froome to win the Tour with Quintana second, but he really hoped Contador could overcome his injuries as that would garantee an interesting TdF since Contador is an animator.

 

[Kwibus]

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I'm curious to see what happen. But if he is dropped hardly it will be also his fault givin his constant complaints which incited the others to attack

When Contador complains, this is indication that he will attack and that his form is very very good

When Contador complains we know nothing.

 

[Miburo]

I disagree, in tour 2011 he didn't really complain much about the knee injury but it clearly affected him

 

[Carols]

Today I won't be able to watch live . Fingers crossed that Alberto is well enough to still be in the game by the end of the day! Forza Campeon!

 

[ILovecycling]

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Well, everyone has seen the skin he lost in the first crash. That doesn't heal in just a few days. If anything he's bluffing to make it not seem so bad, but the time he lost after the secong crash, when he couldn't stand on the pedals during the explosive finish of that stage, and his grimacing face on the run-in to yesterday's finish let's us know that he is still not well.

It will thus be hard for him to match the other top contenders at the end of today. But if he does that would be encouraging for the Pyrenees.

Terpstra was on the radio yesterday and he said that the wounds Contador has will need atleast 2 weeks to heal. He will always feel them when he's trying to sleep and race. Ofcourse it's a pain Contador can handle, but his body is working to heal as well.

He expected Froome to win the Tour with Quintana second, but he really hoped Contador could overcome his injuries as that would garantee an interesting TdF since Contador is an animator.

Ohh crap,guess we will see after todays stage if it will be minutes....

 

[Publicus]

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Well, everyone has seen the skin he lost in the first crash. That doesn't heal in just a few days. If anything he's bluffing to make it not seem so bad, but the time he lost after the secong crash, when he couldn't stand on the pedals during the explosive finish of that stage, and his grimacing face on the run-in to yesterday's finish let's us know that he is still not well.

It will thus be hard for him to match the other top contenders at the end of today. But if he does that would be encouraging for the Pyrenees.

Terpstra was on the radio yesterday and he said that the wounds Contador has will need atleast 2 weeks to heal. He will always feel them when he's trying to sleep and race. Ofcourse it's a pain Contador can handle, but his body is working to heal as well.

He expected Froome to win the Tour with Quintana second, but he really hoped Contador could overcome his injuries as that would garantee an interesting TdF since Contador is an animator.

And I assume that time contemplates maximum rest and not riding 200+KM a day in the biggest race of the year. Let's hope he can minimize his losses today.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Came from DeJongh. That's exactly how you would say it in the English vernacular. Getting out of the saddle just implies the lifting your bum part, standing implies staying out of the saddle.
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Really? So a native speaker would not say "he could not stand up on the climb", but "he could not stand up to the climb"?

 

[Publicus]

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Came from DeJongh. That's exactly how you would say it in the English vernacular. Getting out of the saddle just implies the lifting your bum part, standing implies staying out of the saddle.
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Really? So a native speaker would not say "he could not stand up on the climb", but "he could not stand up to the climb"?

Correct. In the US, we describe Contador's style as riding out of the saddle. I assume the pain is in the shoulder and it should lessen with more treatment, but it will be there until after he finishes the Tour. Hopefully he can manage the pain, or learn on the fly to attack seated a la Froome :lol:

 

[King Boonen]

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Came from DeJongh. That's exactly how you would say it in the English vernacular. Getting out of the saddle just implies the lifting your bum part, standing implies staying out of the saddle.
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Really? So a native speaker would not say "he could not stand up on the climb", but "he could not stand up to the climb"?

Bah, sorry my brain read it wrong. Yes, we would say on, not to.

Edit: Actually my brain didn't read it wrong, you've added a "the" in. The actual quote was:

"he couldn't stand up to climb".

 

[Mongolian Torque]

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I'm curious to see what happen. But if he is dropped hardly it will be also his fault givin his constant complaints which incited the others to attack

When Contador complains, this is indication that he will attack and that his form is very very good

When Contador complains we know nothing.

Very true. We know nothing except that Contador might as well be the Roadrunner. He's the wise and full of guile. Could very well be faking the extent of his injuries, but as a veteran, riding with pain is included in his salary so off he goes... I personally wouldn't be surprised if he tries to stretch his legs today just for the hell of it. He may still lose some time, but I think he'll manage. A few more damage control stages and it's game on again.

However, I'm still mad at Flo for that crazy 'prediction' that brought on this bad spell for Contador...