Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Kokoso]

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Well there is speculation, and there is speculation.

Can't agree more

 

[Angliru]

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Contador said it was Roman's choice not to wait.

Don get why so much people are bummed that Kreuziger didn't obey self-criticism lacking man who clearly was overestimating himself. When someone jumps down the rock certainly resulting in death, will you do that too because someone told you?
There was no need of ritual sacrifice.

I reckon they get along in professional way, but Contador never really liked Kreuziger. I think he has perceived Kreuziger as a threat to him, especially after 2013 Tour. Lately I suspect their relationship got worse and I think withdrawing Kreuziger from TdS played role there and than Dauphine where Kreuziger was in the break and could go for stage win but was pulled back. Which I'd understand if he was gutted for because Contador proclaimed all the time that Dauphine is only preparation and result is not so important there. In fact, Kreuziger was never allowed to go for stage win over the years with Contador, that really sticks out. Contador never mentioned Kreuziger, too. Which is strange as he probably was his best helper or most visible helper over the years, you can say his right hand.

Edit: all that are of course just my speculations.

Make up your mind. Either he heard the DSS's order and ignored it as you imply in your first bolded sentence or he didn't. It seems to me that it's your contention that Kreuziger shouldn't have been working for Contador anyway but if that is the case and that is Kreuziger's belief then maybe he should've been riding in the Tour of Poland and not the Tour.

 

[Kokoso]

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It seems to me that it's your contention that Kreuziger shouldn't have been working for Contador anyway

No, I think Kreuziger should ride for Contador at the Tour. I only think he shouldn't ride for ill Contador who can't finish the Tour.
Edit: I'm little bit annoyed with you for putting words in my mouth I never said earlier.

 

[Pantani Attacks]

Contador upon seeing Froome run as well as realising he dodged potential death via motorbike considering his TDF luck of late and what might have been:

:lol:

 

[Jakub]

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Mate, please stop this speculation.

Man, both you and me really know nothing; I'm speculating, you are speculating.

Edit: I have to agree with this: "Czech fans...have a feeling that the world is treating czech sportsmen bad. "
I can't agree with the always word, that's just unjustified generalization of course.

And I'm not sure whether fans of all world arent's the same, you know As far as this forum goes, they are. I don't know what do you base your opinion on Czech fans on, what nations you are comparing etc.

I wouldn't start another discussion about Czech Republic it is normal that people are not objective when talking about fellowcountrysportsmen, but this type of complaning which I described I only know from CR and SR. I never heard it in Germany, Netherlands or Poland and never read it for example here. Romankreuziger.com czech forum is full of it.

Yes, sure, I am also speculating, but I just wanted to say that I truly believe that this Alberto vs. Roman leadership fight is not real.

 

[Valv.Piti]

He would've had better chances than many thought ahead of this Tour

 

[LeSensei]

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He would've had better chances than many thought ahead of this Tour

Definitely more than Quintana, who isn't even close to less dominant Froome. Not only coward, but now weak and defenceless as well - lucky he had Valverde this time to carry him home just like on Perysourde.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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He would've had better chances than many thought ahead of this Tour

Definitely more than Quintana, who isn't even close to less dominant Froome. Not only coward, but now weak and defenceless as well - lucky he had Valverde this time to carry him home just like on Perysourde.

Great analysis

 

[geargbest]

Contador would have zero problem distancing Froome when Bauke MOLLEMA is able to follow it goes beyond saying, it would be like the vuelta 14 all over again, every knowledged neutraul cycle fan knows this, but thats how cycling is sometimes your unlucky and crashes sometimes not.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Its always very pleseant to read those knowledgeable posts in this thread. Thanks guys.

 

[Arredondo]

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Contador would have zero problem distancing Froome when Bauke MOLLEMA is able to follow it goes beyond saying, it would be like the vuelta 14 all over again, every knowledged neutraul cycle fan knows this, but thats how cycling is sometimes your unlucky and crashes sometimes not.

You just don't know this. 2014 is not 2016.

 

[LeSensei]

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Its always very pleseant to read those knowledgeable posts in this thread. Thanks guys.

Come on, I'm obviously trying to get a reaction from you but just look at that guy. Winning a tour with no attitude is tough, but with no attitude and no legs it's gotta be mission impossible.

 

[Pantani Attacks]

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Contador would have zero problem distancing Froome when Bauke MOLLEMA is able to follow it goes beyond saying, it would be like the vuelta 14 all over again, every knowledged neutraul cycle fan knows this, but thats how cycling is sometimes your unlucky and crashes sometimes not.

You just don't know this. 2014 is not 2016.

It's Bauke bloody Mollema...nuff said.

 

[buchanan]

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Contador would have zero problem distancing Froome when Bauke MOLLEMA is able to follow it goes beyond saying, it would be like the vuelta 14 all over again, every knowledged neutraul cycle fan knows this, but thats how cycling is sometimes your unlucky and crashes sometimes not.

Thanks for your opinion, which surely every knowledged neautral fan must agree with! And he would have taken a lot of time out of Froome in yesterday's crosswinds too - don't forget about that. And he would have taken time out of Froome on all the descents. All done with zero problem!

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Its always very pleseant to read those knowledgeable posts in this thread. Thanks guys.

Come on, I'm obviously trying to get a reaction from you but just look at that guy. Winning a tour with no attitude is tough, but with no attitude and no legs it's gotta be mission impossible.

So you are admitting to trying to bait me, interesting

Back to my initial point; Contador would've had bigger chances than many would've thought ahead of the Tour. You don't need to verbally abuse Quintana everytime you have the possibility or trying to start a bonfire just for the sake of it. Quintana's legs didn't respond well after a few flat and windy days and Froome hasn''t looked dominant, yet. That all might chance, tho.

 

[lenric]

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Contador would have zero problem distancing Froome when Bauke MOLLEMA is able to follow it goes beyond saying, it would be like the vuelta 14 all over again, every knowledged neutraul cycle fan knows this, but thats how cycling is sometimes your unlucky and crashes sometimes not.

Flawed argument. Try again next time.

 

[Miburo]

We gotta admit that it looks like this tour was really good for Contador.

Parcours suits him, froome not dominant, quintana not great.

Watching the stage today, gave me a bitter feeling but that's cycling. It really sucks, i just can't imagine Contador getting dropped by this Froome

 

[RattaKuningas]

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We gotta admit that it looks like this tour was really good for Contador.

Parcours suits him, froome not dominant, quintana not great.

Watching the stage today, gave me a bitter feeling but that's cycling. It really sucks, i just can't imagine Contador getting dropped by this Froome

Brace yourselves for 2017.

 

[LeSensei]

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Its always very pleseant to read those knowledgeable posts in this thread. Thanks guys.

Come on, I'm obviously trying to get a reaction from you but just look at that guy. Winning a tour with no attitude is tough, but with no attitude and no legs it's gotta be mission impossible.

So you are admitting to trying to bait me, interesting

Back to my initial point; Contador would've had bigger chances than many would've thought ahead of the Tour. You don't need to verbally abuse Quintana everytime you have the possibility or trying to start a bonfire just for the sake of it. Quintana's legs didn't respond well after a few flat and windy days and Froome hasn''t looked dominant, yet. That all might chance, tho.

I swear I try my best to enjoy watching Quintana ride. I just can't. Froome is so ugly on the bike yet he's won me with his bravery and ambition, just like Alberto did back on the day.

The day Quintana does something memorable I'll be damned if not the first to raise my glass.

 

[Miburo]

Oh well i'll just get drunk and stay that until the vuelta starts.

But even when he crushes the vuelta, this feeling won't disappear. I still think of that tour of 2014

Cycling, well life is brutal

 

[Carols]

Yeah but imagine if he'd been the one that was leading when that moto stopped! OMG poor Richie, that had to hurt!

 

[LeSensei]

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Oh well i'll just get drunk and stay that until the vuelta starts.

But even when he crushes the vuelta, this feeling won't disappear. I still think of that tour of 2014

Cycling, well life is brutal

It sucks man. Seeing how everyone is so equal in strength, as in no one being near dominant makes this feeling even worse. I hope we get to see him dance again at this year's Vuelta and next year's Tour.

 

[Fergoose]

In light of the injury news and assuming he planned to take part in the Olympic Road Race then I completely withdraw my suggestion that Contador has disrespected the race by pulling out (as I felt in response to the talk of him backing out due to a fever despite him going on the attack on the stage). I wouldn't wish an injury on any rider and hope his recovery is quick and complete.

 

[Electress]

Just glad Contador wasn't involved in this farce. Hope Porte is ok. Understand his knee is being examined.

 

[Carols]

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In light of the injury news and assuming he planned to take part in the Olympic Road Race then I completely withdraw my suggestion that Contador has disrespected the race by pulling out (as I felt in response to the talk of him backing out due to a fever despite him going on the attack on the stage). I wouldn't wish an injury on any rider and hope his recovery is quick and complete.

Well I doubt your remark was phrased as a 'suggestion', but certainly appreciate this post