Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

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OctaBech said:
The reasoning is more of philosophical nature really. It's a question about what kind of heroes we want the sport and TdF in particular to produce. The riders have often been referred to knights on wheels/iron horses who through so many hardships to create epic tales. In no other sport we get to follow our heroes this close through their ups and downs. We do not experience in other sports that the likely winner of a stage hands the win to someone else for the hard work done.
Winning because the opponent dropped his sword is neither admirable nor epic, it's just a cheap and rather dull kill.
But yes, if Hesjedal is as high as one's expectations of a hero go, then it can be hard to understand this angle. :)

Well I'm old school...being old LOL. Cycling has always been about finding your opponents weaknesses and exploiting them....it's not a tea party, it's war on wheels. If Andy can't shift well that's a weakness to be exploited. The only problem I have is that AC apologized...sissy response IMO.
 
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Carols said:
Well I'm old school...being old LOL. Cycling has always been about finding your opponents weaknesses and exploiting them....it's not a tea party, it's war on wheels. If Andy can't shift well that's a weakness to be exploited. The only problem I have is that AC apologized...sissy response IMO.

Tehe way to go Carol! I like you. :)
 
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hoerpi said:
How do we know that Contador gave the stage away? He tried to drop Andy earlier but couldn't and then only thing AC can't do is sprint so maybe he couldn't win that day?

He didn't try to drop him; he made the classic - 'my legs are good, you'll never drop me' move to demoralize his opponent and then he let him win...even Andy admitted the stage was gifted.

I don't mind gifting stages to worthy opponents or those who worked with a rider and as a result allowed that GC rider to gain time, it is a part of the sport.

As is exploiting your opponents weaknesses :)
 
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Publicus said:
It really is a good article and gives me the impression that ASO has no interest in keeping him out in 2013.;)

Hm, they are Andy Schleck Organisation after all, but yes it gives us hope. :)
 
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It really is a good article and gives me the impression that ASO has no interest in keeping him out in 2013.;)

Then lets hope this year will be epic so ASO can get their head out of their asses and not invite Saxo next near.
 

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Yeah and It would also be so much more relieving if people who debate in a public fora had any idea what they were talking about :rolleyes:
 
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Walkman said:
Then lets hope this year will be epic so ASO can get their head out of their asses and not invite Saxo next near.

Wow I guess you'll have the time of your life this July. :rolleyes:
 
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I hope Alberto rides Giro Vuelta every year from now on, in countries and with people that appreciate and deserve him.

Giro and Vuelta is passion, Tour is money money money, how can we make most money.
 
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Fidolix said:
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Yeah and It would also be so much more relieving if people who debate in a public fora had any idea what they were talking about :rolleyes:

Let him, he just hates Alberto.
 

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Yesterday you could live chat with Bjarne Riis directly from team Saxo / Tinkoff bank hotel in Liege. There were a few interesting facts. http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/cykling/article1783478.ece

I've picked a few of the most interesting and translated them here:

Comment by Mary Solbjerg
Who do you think will win this year!?

Bjarne Riis: Hi Mary!
It's a difficult question to answer. I think the biggest favorite has to be Cadel Evans, since he won last year. Of course, Wiggins also a big favorite, but he still has to prove that he can go the distance and survive the harsh hills in a three-week race
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Comment from Niels
I think the tour this year has a lot of young, exciting and promising riders and am personally even to see Rabobank's Steven Kruijswijk and last year's young gun, Pierre Rolland .. Which young riders, will you watch out for this year?

Bjarne Riis: Hi Niels!
I believe very much that Kruijswijk can run a good Tour. Rolland have to go out there and prove what he delivered last year, because we have not seen so much of him since.

A third bid could be Taaramae. ;)
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Comment by Michael
What new riders, we will get to see on your team

Bjarne Riis: Hi Michael!
Cancellara, Nibali, Sagan, Schleck brothers and Fuglsang. They are certainly all been cited interchangeably by the media and experts who have an opinion about how my cycling team should look like.
I can not tell you how the team will look like, but I can guarantee that we will have a strong team for next year and years ahead. My goal is again to become the world's best cycling team.
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Comment by Thomas
Hi Bjarne, you have a young Pole named Rafal. He should have been in the Giro as GC rider, but was injured. Then I heard that he was in the Tour. Is he a future rider standings and when do you think we see what he can

Bjarne Riis: Majka is still a young rider, but I am convinced that he is someone who can run the standings in the future. Unfortunately, he had a very bad year, but I am sure that he gets strong again in the Vuelta. :D
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Comment by Martin Heinecke
Can Nick Nuyens do something at some early stages? they end up as little as far as I know. he has a good finish

Bjarne Riis: I think in any case Nick is very, very motivated, especially here in the beginning, where he is at home. The end Sunday is perhaps not exactly tailored for him, but one should never say never.
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Comment by Andreas
Will it not be a boring tour this year with defensive driving?

Bjarne Riis: Hey Andrew!
The Tour of course, would probably have been more exciting if Alberto and Andy had been there. I think quite clear that Wiggins will ride defensively, because this is his chance. Some of the other suitors are forced to drive more aggressively because they do not have Wiggins' strength on the time trials.
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Comment by Peter
Hi Bjarne ... with a Russian sponsor must then be Russians on the team? And then I'll just say great respect for that you'll keep coming back ... it is impressive and inspiring.

Bjarne Riis: Thank you, Peter.
Whether there will be Russians on the team, I do not know yet. But now it is even the case that it is me who decides who should be on the team and the most important thing is that we have a strong team.
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Comment by Ole
Hi Bjarne. Who is the most inspirational rider you run against / or worked with?

Bjarne Riis: The most inspirational rider, I've been running for may be Fignon. His approach to things and the way he was looking at was admirable.
The most inspiring opponent must have be Indurain. He was so elegant and had so much class. A good sportsman.
Of those I have worked with, I can mention Alberto for his dedication.
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Comment by Sonny
Which rider on your team has surprised you the most this season in spite of the few victories?


Bjarne Riis: Hey Sonny!
If I have to highlight one, it could be Christopher Juul, who has shown he has a unique ability to sacrifice for his team captain. Often we see that it's not a matter of course for a rider. I remember in Argentina in January that Alberto after the race came to me and said "where have you picked him?" He was impressed that one so young rider had so much energy and perspective to do things by themselves. It is something that helps to make a rider indispensable on a cycling team.
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Comment from Michael Hjort.
Bjarne, Our newly minted champion Sebastian Lander. Is he an option on your team? and How do you predict his future?

Bjarne Riis: Hi Michael!
I think it is wildly positive that he has gotten so good track of his progress this year. This has meant that he has received many impressive results, most recently with DM-title. Can he continue the development, he will undoubtedly be an interesting topic for us, too.
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Comment by Mikkel
Has Denis Menchov not been forgotten as one of this years favorites, he is a great TT rider?

Bjarne Riis: Hi Mikkel!
Yes absolutely. He may well prove a good outsider, but it will require him to have stability in the mountains, and that he is promoting is already on the first mountain stage.
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LaFlorecita said:
Why is it in the Alberto thread? Doesn't it fit better in the Saxo thread?

course i was more thinking it was a LaFlorecita topic :p
But your welcome to post it in the Saxo thread if you like to.
 

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LaFlorecita said:
:p I was just expecting more Berto :(

In a sense it is, anything concerning Saxo - Tinkoff goes back to Berti, including this:

Evidence suggests that Chris Anker Sørensen is also looking at Team Saxo Bank Tinkoff Bank in 2013. Dane is currently negotiating with Bjarne Riis.
Chris Anker Sorensen
"The ox from Hammel" looks set to continue with Bjarne Riis and points out that he would like to continue on the Danish team.

"I would like to continue, and I've talked a little with Bjarne and I think we are alright close," says Chris Anker Sørensen opposite Ekstrabladet.dk.

Chris Anker Sørensen points out that he also keeps other doors open if it would not turn into a contract with Bjarne Riis and Co..
"I expect to agree with Bjarne. We negotiate for an extension of the contract, and it looks good, "adds Chris Anker Sørensen, do not put a timeframe on when he expects that the contract is in place.

"It's not just up to me, unfortunately."
 
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Ok, Menchov, Samu and Piti all said they will miss Alberto because he brings excitement to the race. Guys, I hear ya!
 
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icefire said:
What a liar. Or he needs a new cyclocomputer. :p

Temperature around Madrid has not gone above 28 degrees today. And it's usually cooler in la Sierra where he usually is seen training.

http://www.eltiempo.es/madrid.html

Or maybe he was training somewhere else, who knows? I can't imagine he would exaggerate 28 degrees to be 39 degrees.