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MarkvW said:
The brand has been damaged and it's going to take promotional money to bring it back. I have a hard time seeing investors throwing good money in after bad.

I'd bet there's more damage to come. The media loves demolishing sacred cows, and Livestrong is a huge sacred cow. People would love to read just how much money Lance has made from Livestrong.

This is going to go on for a long time, and for quite some time to come it's going to get worse. LA could have made it stop at some point by cooperating with USADA, and then his story might have become a redemption story. But since he didn't do that, this won't end until there is nothing of him left, and we are all long since sick of hearing his name (if we aren't already).

Is there any road back for Armstrong? I can't see one.
 
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skidmark said:
But Michael Vick had something to come back to, as an athlete in his prime. Armstrong has 2 sports that he can't come back to, and he's 40. Where does he get a platform for exposure, let alone redemption?

That's what I've said, too. I think his only option is to admit and try to make himself a big voice against doping. Start a new non-profit that deals with doping and helps young athletes make positive choices...that sort of thing. I doubt he'd do it but I don't see any other way for him to rehabilitate his image. He could be like the former street gang leader who now counsels at-risk youth. If it were successful, then he might still have a shot at politics (yeah, I know, the thought of Lance being elected is nausea inducing, but it's obviously been something he's wanted).
 
Maxiton said:
This is going to go on for a long time, and for quite some time to come it's going to get worse. LA could have made it stop at some point by cooperating with USADA, and then his story might have become a redemption story. But since he didn't do that, this won't end until there is nothing of him left, and we are all long since sick of hearing his name (if we aren't already).

Is there any road back for Armstrong? I can't see one.

He can of course in a couple of years crawling back searching for some sympathy. Admit that he was a on drugs but was forcing to do so because of the internal culture in cycling and because of corporate pressure. Writing books about the backside of cycling (and sport) blaming UCI and the others who wanted the cancersurvivor winning the Tour for the benefit of the sport.

I believe it is to early pulling this card since he still thinks he can come out with some spare dimes in reserve. Revenge is better served as a cold dish.
 
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I wonder how much ASICS will pay him not to wear their stuff

http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/22/lance-armstrong-jogging-photo-livestrong-nike/

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Now I ask myself, and I ask you: what can there be possibly in it for these brands to drop Armstrong the cyclist, but continue in point of fact to support Armstrong the Cancer Jesus? These companies will align themselves with whatever they think will procure them business. Yet the man who made the foundation lucrative for them, has now fallen deeper than the depths of Tartarus where no light has any hope of penetrating.

I now wonder how can the Livestrong foundation continue to exist in the future under its present setup, given its previous, fallacious, circumstances? The name alone is ridiculous. These companies are in a quandary and it is entertaining to see them do acrobatics to maintain a sense of forthrightness.
 
Maxiton said:
This is going to go on for a long time, and for quite some time to come it's going to get worse. LA could have made it stop at some point by cooperating with USADA, and then his story might have become a redemption story. But since he didn't do that, this won't end until there is nothing of him left, and we are all long since sick of hearing his name (if we aren't already).

Is there any road back for Armstrong? I can't see one.

Doesn't matter, they likely all would have dropped him anyway.
 
rhubroma said:
Now I ask myself, and I ask you: what can there be possibly in it for these brands to drop Armstrong the cyclist, but continue in point of fact to support Armstrong the Cancer Jesus? These companies will align themselves with whatever they think will procure them business. Yet the man who made the foundation lucrative for them, has now fallen deeper than the depths of Tartarus where no light has any hope of penetrating.

I now wonder how can the Livestrong foundation continue to exist in the future under its present setup, given its previous, fallacious, circumstances? The name alone is ridiculous. These companies are in a quandary and it is entertaining to see them do acrobatics to maintain a sense of forthrightness.

No public company is going to announce they will stop supporting a cancer charity. They will wait until Livestrong withers away then quietly drop their association.
 
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rhubroma said:
I now wonder how can the Livestrong foundation continue to exist in the future under its present setup, given its previous, fallacious, circumstances?

THERE IS NO LIVESTRONG FOUNDATION.

These companies are supporting the Lance Armstrong Foundation. Livestrong is just one of their trademarks.

If you read through their press releases, before the Reasoned Decision, they supported Lance Armstrong and the Lance Armstrong Foundation. Today they have dropped Lance Armstrong and support the Livestrong Foundation, even though there is no Livestrong Foundation.

But that may change.
 
No_Balls said:
Yup. That is the media logic. Once the sacred cow has fallen they will stomp it to the ground. Hypocritical? Yes. Vultures? Yes. Great? For now yes.

It is just a matter of time before they will looking up (and publish) Mr Armstrongs charity frauds and perhaps more nastier details of his whereabouts. So far in time the Titanic has just hit the iceberg.

As they should, once it's known the entire 'Livestrong" thing has been outed as a sham, a farce, etc., these dumb dumbs will then realize the full bore of just how badly they've all been duped by a 2two bit conman.

I only wish one day Wonderboy loses all his millions.
 
Maxiton said:
This is going to go on for a long time, and for quite some time to come it's going to get worse. LA could have made it stop at some point by cooperating with USADA, and then his story might have become a redemption story. But since he didn't do that, this won't end until there is nothing of him left, and we are all long since sick of hearing his name (if we aren't already).

Is there any road back for Armstrong? I can't see one.

Great post, I agree. Ive said from the beginning, had the uniballer just come out from the getgo and admitted it and said "yeah, I did it, no more games, here's why i did it...blah blah blah". No one wouldve made a big deal about it IMO,(or as big a deal as now), but his arrogance, and all around ******baggery towards folks, came back to haunt him. Time for him to face all the music now.
 
86TDFWinner said:
As they should, once it's known the entire 'Livestrong" thing has been outed as a sham, a farce, etc., these dumb dumbs will then realize the full bore of just how badly they've all been duped by a 2two bit conman.

I only wish one day Wonderboy loses all his millions.

I agree completely. True justice would be Armstrong ending up in a trailer park or worse. I wish i live to see it. The man have making a fortune out of this the biggest sporting shame know to man while making sick people believe he is a Cancerjesus.

Let the crows have him.
 
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Couple of other things strike me about that photo (directly above). Armstrong's developed some tits. It's probably gonna get worse. The loads of testosterone that he took has started contingent to estrogen, and he is getting b'tch tits. It's called gynecomastia. His calves and quads also don't look as developed. Yes, I realize that he has ultra long shorts on, but it's apparent nonetheless. Use it or lose it. And he's losing it.