Gesink will be the one that tries to get away, Martens is the one who has to save himself for the sprint. He said last year that he could have done what Hesjedal did: not show himself all day and then get a podium at the end.roundabout said:
There's also Freire, but TBH I'd give Martens more of a chance than him.
Poels is definitely riding, it's his home race as he's from the Limburg province.hrotha said:What about Luisle
Anyway, I'm pleased with all the talk about Gesink, Martens and Van Avermaet for AGR. And I might add Poels just because (although I don't even know if he's riding).
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dlwssonic said:Are you guys ready for the rising of a new star, the rising of the great pretender, GREG VAN AVERMAET!!!!
I have been tipping Greg for this race since December last year. I am putting it on the line, if he is having a good day at Amstel, he WILL win (at least podium
). I like his chances in Brabantse Pijl on wednesday.
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F-W: I think I get Contador's 'didn't attack from far enough out' comment now - I guess he thinks the way to beat Cuddles and similar riders is to set a higher but not totally explosive tempo from further out than Evans can sustain and blow him up before the end, as he doesnt think he can match Evans strength on the really steep bit at the end of the Mur, or at least thinks it is less risky to go long.
So blow him away aerobically, because anaerobically Evans is very hard to beat.
So blow him away aerobically, because anaerobically Evans is very hard to beat.
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auscyclefan94 said:I have been tipping Greg for this race since December last year. I am putting it on the line, if he is having a good day at Amstel, he WILL win (at least podium
Yes this race really suits him and hes a fast finisher too, he is certainly the most attacking and exciting rider in BMC can't wait for him to get his big break, really reminds me of gilbert.
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Winterfold said:
He'll blow himself up doing that. How far out will he have to do that from? He pretty much did what you said last year and Evans caught up and blew right past him in the finish.
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
If Boogerd could sprint he would've been the best hilly classics specialist in modern times lol.
But yeah, you don't get second after VDB while being clean.
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Mind you Boogerd wasn't a slow sprinter. I spent years trying to explain that.
He was usually just unlucky there was always a faster guy with him. But in a sprint with 5 or even 50 men, he still finished 2nd or 3rd. F.ex that Zürich that Flecha won in a 50 men sprint.
Boogerd was never slow (well except for his last 2 years, 2006 and 2007), but just not fast enough against those Italians
And yes, he could've won 13 World Cup classics if he had a better sprint, looking at his results.
But, he didn't. So there.
He was usually just unlucky there was always a faster guy with him. But in a sprint with 5 or even 50 men, he still finished 2nd or 3rd. F.ex that Zürich that Flecha won in a 50 men sprint.
Boogerd was never slow (well except for his last 2 years, 2006 and 2007), but just not fast enough against those Italians
And yes, he could've won 13 World Cup classics if he had a better sprint, looking at his results.
But, he didn't. So there.
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dlwssonic said:
The key words are aerobic vs anaerobic IMO
Evans is very strong and can take the pain of a very steep anaerobic effort better than anyone - so beat him earlier so he cannot catch you up with a balls out effort - I think you mean the same as me but have used different words to describe it.
Sorry to say it ACF, but I can't see Greg beating Phil up the Cauberg. Happy for him to prove me wrong though.
The big guns will need to be on the attack consistently over the last 30km to try and weaken Lotto and isolate Gilbert, get him tired before the finish. I seem to remember last year being quite eventful in this area, but it didn't work in the end.
It's good having Greg there for the finale, but they will need to use Evans aggressively to create gaps, force the chase etc. As will the others like Frank & Andy, Ivanov, Kolobnev, Vino, Gesink, Martens, Hoogerland etc.
Maybe Lampre will use Cunego in that same role, as Bole is almost as good an option for the finish as the Prince himself.
The big guns will need to be on the attack consistently over the last 30km to try and weaken Lotto and isolate Gilbert, get him tired before the finish. I seem to remember last year being quite eventful in this area, but it didn't work in the end.
It's good having Greg there for the finale, but they will need to use Evans aggressively to create gaps, force the chase etc. As will the others like Frank & Andy, Ivanov, Kolobnev, Vino, Gesink, Martens, Hoogerland etc.
Maybe Lampre will use Cunego in that same role, as Bole is almost as good an option for the finish as the Prince himself.
Rabobank released their Amstel squad today:
Carlos Barredo, Oscar Freire, Robert Gesink, Paul Martens, Grischa Niermann, Luis Leon Sanchez, Bram Tankink, Maarten Tjallingii.
Same old story: a lot of strong riders, but none of them will win.
Carlos Barredo, Oscar Freire, Robert Gesink, Paul Martens, Grischa Niermann, Luis Leon Sanchez, Bram Tankink, Maarten Tjallingii.
Same old story: a lot of strong riders, but none of them will win.
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Flecha isn't slow, and when he was younger he was quite fast. The problem is that, as a cobbles rider, he routinely has to duck it out with semi-sprinters, and inevitably loses. It was the same with Boogerd, always beaten by those uphill finishers.boomcie said:
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auscyclefan94 said:
See the last bit, and what I said above.
Its the same as you said - the Mur is not Angliru
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Yeah I mixed up with the edition that Nardello won and Boogerd was 4thboomcie said:
http://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=8337
Only Bettini sprinted faster.
And there are more results like that one, especially in his early years (before he turned 30+)... lots of time 2nd/3rd in a sprint of a group of 10/15/20
Never the winner though.
--> not slow, but not fast enough to win.
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