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And again it seems winning races gets people’s backs up more than actually getting busted for EPO....what a sad state of affairs
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rick james said:And again it seems winning races gets people’s backs up more than actually getting busted for EPO....what a sad state of affairs
rick james said:And again it seems winning races gets people’s backs up more than actually getting busted for EPO....what a sad state of affairs
Fuglsang is suspicious, just as Valverde is and just as Geraint is.Frankschleck said:Fuglsang and Astana are suscpious. It's not like Astana have the best reputation, but then again Fuglsang has always been talented. Valverde peaked at 34 aswellD. Nah i believe they are cheating, but then again, Geraints transformation to tour winner was more suscpisious.
rick james said:And again it seems winning races gets people’s backs up more than actually getting busted for EPO....what a sad state of affairs
Escarabajo said:Fuglsang is suspicious, just as Valverde is and just as Geraint is.Frankschleck said:Fuglsang and Astana are suscpious. It's not like Astana have the best reputation, but then again Fuglsang has always been talented. Valverde peaked at 34 aswellD. Nah i believe they are cheating, but then again, Geraints transformation to tour winner was more suscpisious.
They all are suspicious. Nothing to see here.
This is Vino's team. Enough said!
masking_agent said:Escarabajo said:Fuglsang is suspicious, just as Valverde is and just as Geraint is.Frankschleck said:Fuglsang and Astana are suscpious. It's not like Astana have the best reputation, but then again Fuglsang has always been talented. Valverde peaked at 34 aswellD. Nah i believe they are cheating, but then again, Geraints transformation to tour winner was more suscpisious.
They all are suspicious. Nothing to see here.
This is Vino's team. Enough said!
I agree and I wonder if the one day classic riders do a blood bag the night before ?
Blanco said:Miguel Angel Lopez had an unbelievable performance today (and I mean literally), particularly on the flat part, so I think we will see more of the Astana magic in the coming days.
Blanco said:Miguel Angel Lopez had an unbelievable performance today (and I mean literally), particularly on the flat part, so I think we will see more of the Astana magic in the coming days.
DanielSong39 said:Astana, like Movistar and BMC, appears to have been left behind by modern methods.
movingtarget said:Astana on fire this year.
86TDFWinner said:movingtarget said:Astana on fire this year.
Lol! Weren't they threatened by UCI to have their license suspended right around the time Nibali had some quesrionable results, iirc?
86TDFWinner said:DanielSong39 said:Astana, like Movistar and BMC, appears to have been left behind by modern methods.
Didnt: Cadel and Nibali both test positive for doping, along with the rest/half of Astana, to the point UCI tried to strip their license?
Sastre, as rumor has it, apparently tested positive for Cera at the 2008 Tour de France with half his CSC as well. Which got covered up because ASO couldn't afford a 3rd year in a row without a legitimate winner after the Landis and Rasmussen events beforehand.movingtarget said:86TDFWinner said:DanielSong39 said:Astana, like Movistar and BMC, appears to have been left behind by modern methods.
Didnt: Cadel and Nibali both test positive for doping, along with the rest/half of Astana, to the point UCI tried to strip their license?
No neither of them tested positive.
Any source on the Sastre rumor?staubsauger said:Sastre, as rumor has it, apparently tested positive for Cera at the 2008 Tour de France with half his CSC as well. Which got covered up because ASO couldn't afford a 3rd year in a row without a legitimate winner after the Landis and Rasmussen events beforehand.movingtarget said:86TDFWinner said:DanielSong39 said:Astana, like Movistar and BMC, appears to have been left behind by modern methods.
Didnt: Cadel and Nibali both test positive for doping, along with the rest/half of Astana, to the point UCI tried to strip their license?
No neither of them tested positive.
At least that's what L'Equipe more or less made up that summer.
With Astana I think it were Maxim & Valentin Iglinsky that got caught for EPO. Which led the UCI to unsuccessfully call for a license removal ahead of Astana's legendary shameless 2015 Giro d'Italia!
staubsauger said:Sastre, as rumor has it, apparently tested positive for Cera at the 2008 Tour de France with half his CSC as well. Which got covered up because ASO couldn't afford a 3rd year in a row without a legitimate winner after the Landis and Rasmussen events beforehand.movingtarget said:86TDFWinner said:DanielSong39 said:Astana, like Movistar and BMC, appears to have been left behind by modern methods.
Didnt: Cadel and Nibali both test positive for doping, along with the rest/half of Astana, to the point UCI tried to strip their license?
No neither of them tested positive.
At least that's what L'Equipe more or less made up that summer.
With Astana I think it were Maxim & Valentin Iglinsky that got caught for EPO. Which led the UCI to unsuccessfully call for a license removal ahead of Astana's legendary shameless 2015 Giro d'Italia!
86TDFWinner said:DanielSong39 said:Astana, like Movistar and BMC, appears to have been left behind by modern methods.
Didnt: Cadel and Nibali both test positive for doping, along with the rest/half of Astana, to the point UCI tried to strip their license?
Red Rick said:Any source on the Sastre rumor?staubsauger said:Sastre, as rumor has it, apparently tested positive for Cera at the 2008 Tour de France with half his CSC as well. Which got covered up because ASO couldn't afford a 3rd year in a row without a legitimate winner after the Landis and Rasmussen events beforehand.movingtarget said:86TDFWinner said:DanielSong39 said:Astana, like Movistar and BMC, appears to have been left behind by modern methods.
Didnt: Cadel and Nibali both test positive for doping, along with the rest/half of Astana, to the point UCI tried to strip their license?
No neither of them tested positive.
At least that's what L'Equipe more or less made up that summer.
With Astana I think it were Maxim & Valentin Iglinsky that got caught for EPO. Which led the UCI to unsuccessfully call for a license removal ahead of Astana's legendary shameless 2015 Giro d'Italia!
It's one of these things I could 100% see happening but it could also easily be made up. Basically cherry picking the positives to pretend you're catching people but also trying really hard not to destroy your own race.
What's really confusing to me though is that Ricco wasn't popped for Cera in the 2008 IIRC