• The Cycling News forum is still looking to add volunteer moderators with. If you're interested in helping keep our discussions on track, send a direct message to @SHaines here on the forum, or use the Contact Us form to message the Community Team.

    In the meanwhile, please use the Report option if you see a post that doesn't fit within the forum rules.

    Thanks!

Astana?

Page 5 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community.
Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
markene2

markene2

Jan 7, 2010
2,210
163
11,680
Visit site
Re: Re:

Simurgh said:
Red Rick said:
staubsauger said:
movingtarget said:
86TDFWinner said:
[quote="

Didnt: Cadel and Nibali both test positive for doping, along with the rest/half of Astana, to the point UCI tried to strip their license?
Click to expand...

No neither of them tested positive.
Click to expand...
Sastre, as rumor has it, apparently tested positive for Cera at the 2008 Tour de France with half his CSC as well. Which got covered up because ASO couldn't afford a 3rd year in a row without a legitimate winner after the Landis and Rasmussen events beforehand.

At least that's what L'Equipe more or less made up that summer.

With Astana I think it were Maxim & Valentin Iglinsky that got caught for EPO. Which led the UCI to unsuccessfully call for a license removal ahead of Astana's legendary shameless 2015 Giro d'Italia!
Click to expand...
Any source on the Sastre rumor?

It's one of these things I could 100% see happening but it could also easily be made up. Basically cherry picking the positives to pretend you're catching people but also trying really hard not to destroy your own race.

What's really confusing to me though is that Ricco wasn't popped for Cera in the 2008 IIRC
Click to expand...

I have read about the suspicion of Sastre before, but I can't find a single source on English. I can however find a dozen sources on Danish from either the state broadcaster/public service channel DR, TV2 who has broadcast the Tour since forever and some tabloids. They say, that according to a Belgian newspaper (Le Soir), Sastre was tested positive for CERA along with O'Grady, Cancellara and Fränk Schleck. It's all hearsay though, just like when people speculated that Moscon was involved in Operation Aderlass a month ago or so.
Click to expand...

Ricco said that 48 riders tested positive at the 2008 tour and UCI covered it up, he recived a list of who by "mistake", he shared it on twitter about 5-6 years ago.
 
markene2

markene2

Jan 7, 2010
2,210
163
11,680
Visit site
Re: Re:

Squire said:
markene2 said:
Ricco said that 48 riders tested positive at the 2008 tour and UCI covered it up, he recived a list of who by "mistake", he shared it on twitter about 5-6 years ago.
Click to expand...
To be precise, he shared the "fact" that he received the list. Not the names on it.
Click to expand...

It was what i meant, but thanks for clarifying. The sport is rotten to its core, as all sports are so i belive him.
 
noob

noob

Aug 9, 2021
4,378
4,749
15,180
Visit site
I loved Mal since I saw him punching the spectator. Last summer I asked specifically if people thought he was clean. I thought maybe he was. How ironic. People here guessed he wasn't. Whoever said so was right.

How common is they being investigated for trafficking vs using? My noob self thinks trafficking sounds serious. (And then I am again reminded of Rasmussen and a shoe box).
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ilmaestro99
Ricco'

Ricco'

Aug 14, 2012
4,097
5,026
21,180
Visit site
noob said:
I loved Mal since I saw him punching the spectator. Last summer I asked specifically if people thought he was clean. I thought maybe he was. How ironic. People here guessed he wasn't. Whoever said so was right.

How common is they being investigated for trafficking vs using? My noob self thinks trafficking sounds serious. (And then I am again reminded of Rasmussen and a shoe box).
Click to expand...
Trafficking is imo way worse.

Using can be (depending on country and substance) only a sporting matter. Trafficking, if proven guilty, will almost certainly result in criminal charges.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lui98, ontheroad, ppanther92 and 1 other person
Ilmaestro99

Ilmaestro99

Apr 13, 2021
5,769
14,977
17,180
Visit site
Lopez is an interesting case. Some of his climbing performances over the past 5 years have been extremely WTF.

But because of the fact that he is extremely specialist, and is basically only good at long high climbs, he has avoided raising too many eyebrows.

It's a shame that they are investigating trafficking charges though. That is very serious
 
  • Like
Reactions: ontheroad and noob
T

Tim Cahill

May 6, 2021
8,285
15,657
17,180
Visit site
  • Like
  • Sad
Reactions: Lui98, ontheroad, noob and 1 other person
Ilmaestro99

Ilmaestro99

Apr 13, 2021
5,769
14,977
17,180
Visit site
Tim Cahill said:
Average of 25 years for drug trafficking in Colombia at first glance, although happy to be corrected. https://www.dejusticia.org/en/column/sentences-for-drug-traffickers-from-south-americas-pacific/

Famous guy, high profile case, I hope for his sake they found nothing because they will throw the book if they did one would think maybe make a bit of an example. He'd best start rolling on people otherwise he could be completely ****ed.
Click to expand...
I don't know how drug trafficking laws work. If he is investigated as part of an investigation in Spain, will he still be charged in Colombia? Forgive my ignorant
 
T

Tim Cahill

May 6, 2021
8,285
15,657
17,180
Visit site
Ilmaestro99 said:
I don't know how drug trafficking laws work. If he is investigated as part of an investigation in Spain, will he still be charged in Colombia? Forgive my ignorant
Click to expand...

I assume the trafficking charge relates to activities between Spain and Colombia as he was stopped at the airport. They apparently have a bilateral extradition treaty, although it's unclear the context in which that would be excersied, I think there are few lawyers on here who know what they're talking about as I'm just going of a few twitter talking heads.

From the look of these correctional facilities though I'd take my chances in Spain, some these Colombian joints seem like they are no joke and MAL strikes me as a sensitive boy.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lui98 and Ilmaestro99
Ilmaestro99

Ilmaestro99

Apr 13, 2021
5,769
14,977
17,180
Visit site
  • Like
Reactions: Lui98 and perico
T

Tim Cahill

May 6, 2021
8,285
15,657
17,180
Visit site
The #FreeSuperman lobby has succeeded

www.eurosport.es

El Astana suspende a Miguel Ángel López, quien no es investigado por tráfico de medicamentos

El ciclista colombiano Miguel Ángel 'Supermán' López no está siendo investigado por la Guardia Civil dentro del marco de la Operación Ilex por tráfico de medica
www.eurosport.es www.eurosport.es

Colombian cyclist Miguel Ángel 'Supermán' López is not being investigated by the Civil Guard within the framework of Operation Ilex for drug trafficking, although he has been suspended by his team, Astana, sources from the Civil Guard have informed Efe.
 
  • Love
  • Haha
Reactions: Escarabajo and noob
noob

noob

Aug 9, 2021
4,378
4,749
15,180
Visit site
Tim Cahill said:
The #FreeSuperman lobby has succeeded

www.eurosport.es

El Astana suspende a Miguel Ángel López, quien no es investigado por tráfico de medicamentos

El ciclista colombiano Miguel Ángel 'Supermán' López no está siendo investigado por la Guardia Civil dentro del marco de la Operación Ilex por tráfico de medica
www.eurosport.es www.eurosport.es

Colombian cyclist Miguel Ángel 'Supermán' López is not being investigated by the Civil Guard within the framework of Operation Ilex for drug trafficking, although he has been suspended by his team, Astana, sources from the Civil Guard have informed Efe.
Click to expand...
There goes my hope for a wistle blower :joycat::joycat::joycat::joycat::joycat:
 
  • Haha
  • Wow
Reactions: Ilmaestro99 and Tim Cahill
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Latest posts

Moderators online

Share this page

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom