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mewmewmew13 said:Froome has apparently stated that he has NO TUE's...
Team TUE's anyone?
He actually said he has no TUE's in this tour.. could be a subtle difference !
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http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/schistosomiasis/treatment.html
Originally Posted by mudbone
Just done a timeline of Froome's Bilharzia condition from quotes in various interviews (dated). Didn't find any real inconsistencies in them (not all quoted here), although it seems he went nine months, instead of the six mentioned, before his last check up. Using the bi-annual check-up meter he should be due one now
2009/2010 - Contraction
"I probably had it for year before I found it." (Sep '11)
"I found it 18 months ago and they had probably been in my system for a year before that." (May '12)
Dec 2010 - Diagnosis (and presumably Treatment)
"Bilharzia – it’s a water-borne disease, which I found that I had it in December last year." (Sep '11)
March/April 2012 - Treatment
quote from mudbone:
"I took the treatment three weeks ago and I've got to wait six months to see if it's still active or not." (May '12)
“The bilharzia is not totally cleared up. I did repeat the treatment about three months ago in March. I am clear for now. I need to go check again in August-September." (Jul '12)
“I had a two week treatment in April last year, and have since been clear of the parasite. I have it checked every six months to make sure it hasn't returned.” (Dec '12)
January 2013 - Check-Up (and inferred Treatment)
”I do go for a check-up every six months. The last was in January and it was still in my system. I take Biltricide. It kills the parasite in the system.” (Jul '13)
This is a great post!
loving this timeline fudging Froome!
Just done a timeline of Froome's Bilharzia condition from quotes in various interviews (dated). Didn't find any real inconsistencies in them (not all quoted here), although it seems he went nine months, instead of the six mentioned, before his last check up. Using the bi-annual check-up meter he should be due one now
2009/2010 - Contraction
"I probably had it for year before I found it." (Sep '11)
"I found it 18 months ago and they had probably been in my system for a year before that." (May '12)
Dec 2010 - Diagnosis (and presumably Treatment)
"Bilharzia – it’s a water-borne disease, which I found that I had it in December last year." (Sep '11)
March/April 2012 - Treatment
quote from mudbone:
"I took the treatment three weeks ago and I've got to wait six months to see if it's still active or not." (May '12)
“The bilharzia is not totally cleared up. I did repeat the treatment about three months ago in March. I am clear for now. I need to go check again in August-September." (Jul '12)
“I had a two week treatment in April last year, and have since been clear of the parasite. I have it checked every six months to make sure it hasn't returned.” (Dec '12)
January 2013 - Check-Up (and inferred Treatment)
”I do go for a check-up every six months. The last was in January and it was still in my system. I take Biltricide. It kills the parasite in the system.” (Jul '13)
This is a great post!
loving this timeline fudging Froome!
Here's a timeline i did using Mudbone's FWIW (if my info/dates are out please correct)
Nov/Dec 2009 ('probably') contracts Bilharzia
Winter 2010 Leinders joins Sky
Dec 2010 Bilharzia diagnosed (and presumably treated)
First half of 2011 gradual improvement in results, contract renewal uncertain
Aug/Sept 2011 Vuelta dramatic improvement
Sept 2011 Contract renewed and Bilharzia first disclosed to public (?)
Nov/Dec 2009 ('probably') contracts Bilharzia
Winter 2010 Leinders joins Sky
Dec 2010 Bilharzia diagnosed (and presumably treated)
First half of 2011 gradual improvement in results, contract renewal uncertain
Aug/Sept 2011 Vuelta dramatic improvement
Sept 2011 Contract renewed and Bilharzia first disclosed to public (?)
Stradebianche said:
Do you know where the quote is from? was trying to find it but could not....
posting the link might be handy if you can dredge it up
I cant wait for our expert Taxus to be online.He seems to know about Froome's problem more than froome himself.
ChewbaccaD said:
Indeed, but without an accompanying image it is doomed to miss the podium.
Get to work on that, Bro.
mewmewmew13 said:Do you know where the quote is from? was trying to find it but could not....
posting the link might be handy if you can dredge it up
Here you go :
“TUEs are a rather personal issue, but I am able to say I do not have any TUEs during this Tour,” Froome said. “Hopefully I will not have any.”
From here;
http://velonews.competitor.com/2013...e-still-treated-for-bilharzia-parasite_295548
Zam_Olyas said:
No! not invited to simply stir up chaos here...this is for keeping track of the Badzilla information etc...not another Froome Thread dustup
I know this article and video interview were linked,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/tour-de-france/10144509/Tour-de-France-2013-the-incredible-rise-of-Chris-Froome-and-how-he-was-almost-killed-by-a-hippo.html
but has the following point been discussed?
But if "all three brothers" suffered from it "for years" then who was the first of them to figure that out, and when? If one of his siblings beat him to the conclusion, then why the delay in Chris's own likely diagnosis (and treatment)? Or do the brothers Froome owe all of their good health to the UCI?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/tour-de-france/10144509/Tour-de-France-2013-the-incredible-rise-of-Chris-Froome-and-how-he-was-almost-killed-by-a-hippo.html
but has the following point been discussed?
OK, at this point, it's difficult to sort out fact, from fiction, from possibly inaccurate reporting...
But if "all three brothers" suffered from it "for years" then who was the first of them to figure that out, and when? If one of his siblings beat him to the conclusion, then why the delay in Chris's own likely diagnosis (and treatment)? Or do the brothers Froome owe all of their good health to the UCI?
mewmewmew13 said:No! not invited to simply stir up chaos here...this is for keeping track of the Badzilla information etc...not another Froome Thread dustup
But come he will.
The parasite defense is hilarious.
Almost better than Tyler's unborn twin story.
Good luck dawg, you will need it.
Almost better than Tyler's unborn twin story.
Good luck dawg, you will need it.
i'm no doctor, but what do red blood cells have to do with his immune system? white blood cells are what make up the immune system. or did he mean white blood cells? what the hell?
i only noticed this because i was once diagnosed with a lowered immune system do to a low WBC count.
Stradebianche said:
them two highlighted parts for me scream out to me. When he says "this tour", does that mean he has had TUE's for previous races?
and then he says he "hopefully" wont need any for this tour. Again, that means, in my opinion anyway is that he has had TUE's in the past, and more than likely he has one at the ready in case he fails a random test.
Its a bloody joke
He does not cure it on purpose so the parasites keep the blood values fluctuation. Thus blood passport is useless and can't be used for Froome. Thus he can do anything one could do pre Bloodpassport.
Theory alternative to Aicar & GW1516 and Froome being a super-responder.
Or he is just clean and a top3 greatest cycling talent in history.
Theory alternative to Aicar & GW1516 and Froome being a super-responder.
Or he is just clean and a top3 greatest cycling talent in history.
chrisb said:
I guess maybe he is referring to if a saddle sore or something comes along then it might necessitate the need??
Odd thing to say though..
Hold On
Just found this meta-study of cure rates of schistosomiasis from studies across Africa.
http://www.plosntds.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pntd.0001321#pntd-0001321-t002
A two-dose cure is more effective than a single-dose depending on the severity of the disease. Is it TWICE the cure? No. But, two doses has a slightly higher cure probability. Severe cases appear to get the two-dose treatment.
Basically, unless the guy is actively seeking out places to re-infect himself, it reads like the disease can be tracked in the body and the cures available are swift and very effective.
Just found this meta-study of cure rates of schistosomiasis from studies across Africa.
http://www.plosntds.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pntd.0001321#pntd-0001321-t002
A two-dose cure is more effective than a single-dose depending on the severity of the disease. Is it TWICE the cure? No. But, two doses has a slightly higher cure probability. Severe cases appear to get the two-dose treatment.
Basically, unless the guy is actively seeking out places to re-infect himself, it reads like the disease can be tracked in the body and the cures available are swift and very effective.
patswana posted some interesting info in one of the may threads regarding, Badzilla. They should be added here if they aren;t already.
Granville57 said:Indeed, but without an accompanying image it is doomed to miss the podium.
Get to work on that, Bro.
BYOP88 said:
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1305083&postcount=6413
Basically, some temporary negative reactions and then cured.
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1305081&postcount=6411
Almeisan said:
Yes, like we hoped Lance was.
I can come up with only one name for the top-3. The others never rode clean, or against too doped riders for us to ever tell.
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