Baron Coe, cleans?

[buckle]

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That, we are supposed to believe, is the one guy who legitimately was clean and won due to superior training methods, when everyone else who says this nonesence was a liar?

In the previously linked clip, it's really worth noting Coe's facial reaction when Snow refers to him as, "a great, clean runner."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBg6-_wrsOQ&t=4m10s

It's almost as if he's not even sure what to make of that label.

I noticed that. Perhaps Coe thought Snow was mocking him and became confused. He's not very bright and failed as a politician.

I recall watching him beat a world class American anchoring a 4x400 - full ***. This was a 1.5k WR holder. Truly absurd.

 

[Jacques de Molay]

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It also says Coe wasn't told/aware of any fix going on.

Not exactly. It says,

Coe is not accused of being complicit in the fix or of knowing about Billy being paid to lose.

That sounds more like The Herald is simply playing it safe and protecting themselves legally. Big difference.

 

[gillan1969]

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It also says Coe wasn't told/aware of any fix going on.

Not exactly. It says,

Coe is not accused of being complicit in the fix or of knowing about Billy being paid to lose.

That sounds more like The Herald is simply playing it safe and protecting themselves legally. Big difference.

i think that's what i said....

 

[buckle]

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He used to run uphill with his dad timing him.
It's the forgotten template of our to run faster.

Wow!

 

[More Strides than Rides]

I didn't know this until today, but the testosterone test wasn't used until 1983. A researcher tested 1980 olympic samples using it, finding 20% would have tested positive (at 6:1!)

 

[armchairclimber]

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I didn't know this until today, but the testosterone test wasn't used until 1983. A researcher tested 1980 olympic samples using it, finding 20% would have tested positive (at 6:1!)

The whispers that passed my lugs didn't involve test ... but it can't be ruled out.

 

[Zebadeedee]

There's an impressive amount of detail on blood chemistry, dynamics etc in Peter Coe's book, information largely supplied, I guess, by his co-author, David Martin who ran the elite athlete performance lab at Georgia State University and who was basically an exercise physiologist and researcher. The chapter on blood dynamics runs to some 50 pages with 150 scientific papers referenced. When the book was published in 1991, the claim was made of Coe being the most tested athlete ever with regard to continuity and consistency of testing so there must be a huge amount of analytical information on him knocking around somewhere.

 

[armchairclimber]

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There's an impressive amount of detail on blood chemistry, dynamics etc in Peter Coe's book, information largely supplied, I guess, by his co-author, David Martin who ran the elite athlete performance lab at Georgia State University and who was basically an exercise physiologist and researcher. The chapter on blood dynamics runs to some 50 pages with 150 scientific papers referenced. When the book was published in 1991, the claim was made of Coe being the most tested athlete ever with regard to continuity and consistency of testing so there must be a huge amount of analytical information on him knocking around somewhere.

Indeed there is. There are also detailed training logs from when he was about 13/14 years old. As I said up-thread, his training regime was radical and advanced for its time ... and unbelievably tough (and no, this is not to say he was clean).

 

[Benotti69]

Seems Coe has his finger in a lot of pies. He is chairman of CSM. Gazprom (Russian Gas) is one of their largest clients, CSM manages their sports sponsorship. CSM advised Azerbaijan on hosting European Games. British Olympic Association, which Coe also chairs, voted for Baku.

It's a dirty sporting world.

 

[Zebadeedee]

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Seems Coe has his finger in a lot of pies. He is chairman of CSM. Gazprom (Russian Gas) is one of their largest clients, CSM manages their sports sponsorship. CSM advised Azerbaijan on hosting European Games. British Olympic Association, which Coe also chairs, voted for Baku.

It's a dirty sporting world.

Which rather suggests they'll soon be a figleaf exercise conjured up to keep the Russians in the IAAF fold.

 

[Benotti69]

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Seems Coe has his finger in a lot of pies. He is chairman of CSM. Gazprom (Russian Gas) is one of their largest clients, CSM manages their sports sponsorship. CSM advised Azerbaijan on hosting European Games. British Olympic Association, which Coe also chairs, voted for Baku.

It's a dirty sporting world.

Which rather suggests they'll soon be a figleaf exercise conjured up to keep the Russians in the IAAF fold.

Coe makes a few bob out of the Russians and will make a few more. A fine for the Russian sports federation is my guess and some heads rolling.

 

[Zebadeedee]

This temporary ban is the figleaf. As they, to quote the Pound report, sabotaged the London olympics the appropriate sanction should have been to summarily chuck them out of Rio.

 

[BullsFan22]

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This temporary ban is the figleaf. As they, to quote the Pound report, sabotaged the London olympics the appropriate sanction should have been to summarily chuck them out of Rio.

What about all the other dopers from many other countries? If they chuck the Russians they have chuck at least 75% of the countries involved in London.

 

[Zebadeedee]

You might well ask. What hope is there anyway for the Olympic movement when you have a horror show like Thomas Bach at the helm of the IOC?

 

[Benotti69]

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You might well ask. What hope is there anyway for the Olympic movement when you have a horror show like Thomas Bach at the helm of the IOC?

Can it be any different (better or worse) than Samaranch?

 

[Zebadeedee]

Why doesn't some crusading-minded journalist just ask the 'great, clean athlete' whether or not he did actually blood dope? At least then his denial will be there on the record. I don't understand why it is constantly taken for read that he never doped.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

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Seems Coe has his finger in a lot of pies. He is chairman of CSM. Gazprom (Russian Gas) is one of their largest clients, CSM manages their sports sponsorship. CSM advised Azerbaijan on hosting European Games. British Olympic Association, which Coe also chairs, voted for Baku.

It's a dirty sporting world.

In fairness, Baku were the only city to bid, but good work, nonetheless.

 

[Chipist]

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Because if I remember correctly re-injecting your own blood was not against the rules at the time.

 

[Zebadeedee]

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Because if I remember correctly re-injecting your own blood was not against the rules at the time.

Whether he commited an anti-doping violation or otherwise is not the point. The point is whether he did or didn't blood dope. There are reasonable perspectives argued either way and I'd like to hear his denial.

 

[Chipist]

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Because if I remember correctly re-injecting your own blood was not against the rules at the time.

Whether he commited an anti-doping violation or otherwise is not the point. The point is whether he did or didn't blood dope. There are reasonable perspectives argued either way and I'd like to hear his denial.

I agree, it would have been unethical even if not against the rules. I despise the man and would like to see him fall.

 

[armchairclimber]

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Because if I remember correctly re-injecting your own blood was not against the rules at the time.

Whether he commited an anti-doping violation or otherwise is not the point. The point is whether he did or didn't blood dope. There are reasonable perspectives argued either way and I'd like to hear his denial.

I agree, it would have been unethical even if not against the rules. I despise the man and would like to see him fall.

Tricky isn't it. He was seeking competitive advantage with what was probably the best training programme in the world. His team researched and understood perfectly how blood chemistry could be manipulated. Even if you asked the question "Were you blood doping?" he could obfuscate and say that he never took any drugs etc etc. People I am close to were close to him and ... well, as far as they are concerned, he crossed the line.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

bump!
Lord Coe role in Eugene 2021 Worlds decision questioned:
http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/34908237

IAAF president Lord Coe is facing conflict of interest allegations after emails emerged suggesting he lobbied his predecessor over the hosting of the 2021 World Championships.

Eugene, USA, was given the event without a bidding process, despite interest from the Swedish city of Gothenburg.

A BBC investigation has uncovered emails which claim Coe - a Nike ambassador and then-vice president of world athletics - "reached out" to Lamine Diack with his support for Eugene's bid.

 

[armchairclimber]

He couldn't appear more bent if he disappeared up his own fundament. He's got the hide of a rhino but I sense there are elements within the Brit press that smell blood now. I hope they nail him sooner rather than later.

 

[Zebadeedee]

Baron Coe cleans up!

 

[del1962]

Does anyone know what the blood disorder than caused his Lordship to pull out of the inaugural World Champs, might have been hepatitis but I am not sure.