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Andre.J

Andre.J

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The Hitch said:
Yeah i was going to ask if maybe ricco will be there. What about Franco Pellizoti.

I hope Menchov wont be there. Hes already won it twice, let someone else have a go.

Who will wear number 1. Obviously the defending champion wont be there.
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Pellizotti was banned for doping.
The winner will be a Spaniard. There just is no stopping the Nation in it's Golden Sporting Era.

Andre
 
Galic Ho

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Menchov will win this over Sanchez, Nibali and Franck Schleck. I hope to see Anton ride and do well.

Someone mentioned Caisse riders. Bruseghin would be nice, but I don't know if he is riding. Arroyo needs a lot of luck and I have seen squat from Soler since the 2007 TDF. Soler won't replicate that form...heck any rider who can ride at a 2007 TdF level will win any GT today. I can also explain why Cobo Acebo has sucked this year. It's the medical program, or tightening of the BioPassport. Riders at the Tour were at a lower level than previous recent GT's. Cobo was the biggest abuser on Saunier Duval. He's a dud off the juice. Shame Valverde is banned. He'd beat everyone hands down this year with the form people are showing.
 
ericthesportsman6

ericthesportsman6

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Galic Ho said:
Menchov will win this over Sanchez, Nibali and Franck Schleck. I hope to see Anton ride and do well.

Someone mentioned Caisse riders. Bruseghin would be nice, but I don't know if he is riding. Arroyo needs a lot of luck and I have seen squat from Soler since the 2007 TDF. Soler won't replicate that form...heck any rider who can ride at a 2007 TdF level will win any GT today. I can also explain why Cobo Acebo has sucked this year. It's the medical program, or tightening of the BioPassport. Riders at the Tour were at a lower level than previous recent GT's. Cobo was the biggest abuser on Saunier Duval. He's a dud off the juice. Shame Valverde is banned. He'd beat everyone hands down this year with the form people are showing.
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If those two can recover from the TDF just fine, what about Joaquim Rodriguez? He was on their level climbing-wise in the tour, if not better, and the parcours at the Vuelta will suit him more. And I think your judgement of Soler and Cobo is a bit unfair. Soler has shown excellent form in a number of smaller races. He just hasn't been able to show it again on the big stage because of bad luck. And one bad year is way too quick to already claim that Cobo was only solid because of doping.
 
Libertine Seguros

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Soler has been awesome at times. 1st in Burgos '07, 5th in Burgos '09, he was one of the three (alongside Antón and Mosquera) who did a number on Contador at Castilla y León - and he bridged across from the péloton to the three masterfully, which takes some doing. Soler's problem is that when he's healthy and on form he's one of the best climbers in the world, but his bike skills are atrocious and his body is made of glass, which means that he's seldom healthy and on form.

Cobo, one would assume, would have had to be pretty careful if he were doping on Fuji-Servetto last year given that they had to appeal to get access to the Vuelta and the organisers were after any excuse to exclude them. He managed to come 10th nonetheless, so I'd guess that's his talent level when on-form (he focused mostly on that race) and at a not-as-high-as-you'd-expect-at-Saunier-Duval level of program. Whether he was clean or not is a question for the Clinic, but I'd say that if he's dirty or has been dirty, he would have been less so in 2009 than 2008. This year he's had a bad year, but that happens. Igor Antón had an awesome 2008 and has been excellent so far this year, but he had a very pedestrian 2009, after an injury robbed him of most of the off-season and he couldn't get to proper race shape until far later.
 
Galic Ho

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ericthesportsman6 said:
If those two can recover from the TDF just fine, what about Joaquim Rodriguez? He was on their level climbing-wise in the tour, if not better, and the parcours at the Vuelta will suit him more. And I think your judgement of Soler and Cobo is a bit unfair. Soler has shown excellent form in a number of smaller races. He just hasn't been able to show it again on the big stage because of bad luck. And one bad year is way too quick to already claim that Cobo was only solid because of doping.
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I forgot Rodriguez. He is good as well, but his chrono is suspect. He was awful at the Tour. He isn't good enough to get time on both Sanchez and Menchov in the hills. Menchov will wear everyone down. He is the Silent Assassin. Riders don't even realise that with every climb and pedal stroke he is beating them down. All he has to do is follow and lead if he gets a chance and bank it on his chrono.

Soler is good. I like him, but I haven't seen a GT performance from him since the 2007 Tour. There is a reason he was left off the Tour squad. As for Cobo, Ricco and Piepopli were not the big abusers. Cobo was. The rumours going round were that Saunier had him hooked up to HR monitors and alarms in his sleep as they were that afraid he'd cark it because his blood was mush. Ever wonder by Prudhomme was peeved at the Saunier DS? Not because he had Ricco busted for CERA but because they suspected more guys on the team were using and the DS knew and ran for cover. The DS line of respecting the Tour was BS. He had more dirty riders. Cobo is only good on the hot sauce. Off it he is very average...perhaps below.
 
craig1985

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I was surprised Cobo never got busted when Piepoli and Ricco went down. I guess he was on something different then CERA.

Back to the topic on hand, do Cervelo still intend to field Theo Bos? If nothing else, he can always launch Cav into the barriers and then see the forum go into meltdown.
 
The Hitch

The Hitch

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Andre.J said:
Pellizotti was banned for doping.
The winner will be a Spaniard. There just is no stopping the Nation in it's Golden Sporting Era.

Andre
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no he wasnt. He was under investigation because of the blood passport but looks like he will be back
 
AtletiSK

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in the end a lot of big names enter the Vuelta, I wonder how those who raced TdF recover and what kind of ambitions they have, normally I would say Menchov is the hottest favourite but I am not quite sure he will be fit enough, maybe it´s gonna go for someone fresh like Anton, Soler, Mosquera, Nibali or Frank Schleck
 
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Galic Ho said:
Soler is good. I like him, but I haven't seen a GT performance from him since the 2007 Tour. There is a reason he was left off the Tour squad.
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Yes, because he had a knee injury sustained in the Dauphiné and wasn't able to recover in time to start.
 
Galic Ho

Galic Ho

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Libertine Seguros said:
Yes, because he had a knee injury sustained in the Dauphiné and wasn't able to recover in time to start.
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Yeah I know. He was supposed to be racing the Tour. Valverde's ban also changes the team strategy for the season. Smarter making him ride the Vuelta, because he is more likely to win a stage there or show some GC credentials.
 
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Is there any chance of Haussler taking part?

I know he's still in recovery, but he's back on the bike and he could use it as a solid training block for Lombardy/the Worlds.
 
Ryo Hazuki

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Andre.J said:
Well in all fairness he was banned from the Giro, and of course, after what happened with Valverde, I'm certain he won't be allowed into Spain. Evidence looks real bad against him though.

http://blog.taragana.com/sports/201...-irregular-blood-levels-suggest-doping-98688/
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no it doesn't valkavec has recently been acquitted and pellizotti will probably follow, bioth riders back in competition again. this is totally different from valverde who had bloodbags of him containing epo. these are just drops in bloodvalues without any trace of doping
 
Ryo Hazuki

Ryo Hazuki

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Galic Ho said:
Menchov will win this over Sanchez, Nibali and Franck Schleck. I hope to see Anton ride and do well.

Someone mentioned Caisse riders. Bruseghin would be nice, but I don't know if he is riding. Arroyo needs a lot of luck and I have seen squat from Soler since the 2007 TDF. Soler won't replicate that form...heck any rider who can ride at a 2007 TdF level will win any GT today. I can also explain why Cobo Acebo has sucked this year. It's the medical program, or tightening of the BioPassport. Riders at the Tour were at a lower level than previous recent GT's. Cobo was the biggest abuser on Saunier Duval. He's a dud off the juice. Shame Valverde is banned. He'd beat everyone hands down this year with the form people are showing.
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bs galore again. if there is one rider clean it is cobo, massive talent but the mind of sadly a very instabile person. he was tested most rider in tour 2007 after ricco and piepoli were caught and nothing was ever found. stop posting all this bullsh*t
 
Ryo Hazuki

Ryo Hazuki

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craig1985 said:
I was surprised Cobo never got busted when Piepoli and Ricco went down. I guess he was on something different then CERA.

Back to the topic on hand, do Cervelo still intend to field Theo Bos? If nothing else, he can always launch Cav into the barriers and then see the forum go into meltdown.
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yes it was something called no-dope
 
CatsNK

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Vino has said on his facebook page that he will not enter the Vuelta. I apologize if this is a repeat in this thread.
 
Barrus

Barrus

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Ryo Hazuki said:
will he do the wc???
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I do think it was alluded to this earlier, that he would ride the WC, at least the time trial, where he would come close to Cancellara (at least that was what he said himself)
 
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Mellow Velo

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Kwibus said:
Mollema won't ride the Vuelta. That's what he said himself about a week ago.
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I presume that Menchov will have Larry ten Dam for company at the Vuelta?
He says he will be there, after his Swiss mishap.
 
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