Boxing

[Maaaaaaaarten]

Thanks!

 

[ray j willings]

I hope its all over in the first round and people start to realise how Fu%%ung stupid it his to pay so much money for a TV punch up.
I would not be surprised if its a draw or a dodgy decision so another stupid amount of money can be made with a return punch up.
The world has gone Fu%%ing crazy.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Re:

...Pacquiao on the other hand seems to just be happy to be here part of the show...

Freddie Roach says on the inside Manny has actually been more motivated for this fight than any in his career. But we'll see. Otherwise, I mostly agree with you, and am sticking with my original perdition.

I expect a fairly drab fight. A lot of non connecting punches. No KO, no knockdowns, no one really hurt. No cuts. The fight will seem somewhat close for a few rounds, then Floyd will just get hit less, and as his style adjusts, land a little more, perhaps stealing a few rounds with late flurries. Floyd wins a decision, about 8-4 in rounds. After the fight is over Floyd will then grab the microphone, complain about everyone dissing him, and claim this proves he'd the greatest fighter ever, better than Ali, Robinson, etc. etc.

Had this been 5 years ago, I would have said it was a close fight, but a slight edge to Floyd, with Manny having a real chance at a KO. Now, I don't see it at all.

That would be almost hilarious if it were over the first round. Like Tyson-Spinks. A few punches and it's over. Millions of dollars, gone. We can always hope.

 

[ferryman]

Re: Re:

...Pacquiao on the other hand seems to just be happy to be here part of the show...

Freddie Roach says on the inside Manny has actually been more motivated for this fight than any in his career. But we'll see. Otherwise, I mostly agree with you, and am sticking with my original perdition.

I expect a fairly drab fight. A lot of non connecting punches. No KO, no knockdowns, no one really hurt. No cuts. The fight will seem somewhat close for a few rounds, then Floyd will just get hit less, and as his style adjusts, land a little more, perhaps stealing a few rounds with late flurries. Floyd wins a decision, about 8-4 in rounds. After the fight is over Floyd will then grab the microphone, complain about everyone dissing him, and claim this proves he'd the greatest fighter ever, better than Ali, Robinson, etc. etc.

Had this been 5 years ago, I would have said it was a close fight, but a slight edge to Floyd, with Manny having a real chance at a KO. Now, I don't see it at all.

That would be almost hilarious if it were over the first round. Like Tyson-Spinks. A few punches and it's over. Millions of dollars, gone. We can always hope.

Don't be taken in by the perceived Manny subservient, 'thanks' at the weigh in, ''happy' to be here demeanor. The guy is ready and a warrior. I personally doubt he will have enough to win it, mainly down to size allied against great defensive attrition, but really wouldn't be surprised if he does as he has done it before. Regardless, I'll be up with the alarm to at least take in the electric hype that will go with this fight...

Go Manny

 

[ILovecycling]

I had this 'being part of the show' feeling too during that weight-in, I hope its only a Manny kind of trash talk.
Hopefuly it will be more enjoyable than we think.Im probably only Mayweather fan there,even tho I really like Manny' I admire both, but I have this kind of feeling that Mayweather is just more special boxer - thats why Im his fan (altho I dont like his relationship to women gosh)


Good streams here: (Im happy that sattelite provider here broadcast it )
http://www.sportstream.tv/

PS: I dont think anybody here is going to watch live, thats for real High class

 

[Amsterhammer]

Apparently the Philippine army and various rebel groups have agreed a ceasefire during the fight. Since the entire population of the Philippines is expected to be watching, people have been warned to turn off all other appliances. Even so, power outages are expected.

I haven't followed boxing for decades now, but Go Manny!

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Re:

Apparently the Philippine army and various rebel groups have agreed a ceasefire during the fight. Since the entire population of the Philippines is expected to be watching, people have been warned to turn off all other appliances. Even so, power outages are expected.

I haven't followed boxing for decades now, but Go Manny!

where do you get the news from?

 

[Tricycle Rider]

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Is anyone here going to be watching it live?

Nah, just reading the results of the bout now.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

I watched the last 4 rounds. Typical Maywheather fight...B.O.R.I.N.G.

I guess he probably doesn't need to be as ellusive to the women he beats on.

 

[Jspear]

I tried to watch it on cricfree but the servers where having a hard time keeping up with all the traffic. Very bad connection. Bummed Manny lost, but that's what I was expecting. I agree, from what I saw it wasn't very eventful.

 

[ILovecycling]

A bit more enjoyable than I thought but nothing special.My neutral scorecard 115-113 M (May favour 116-112, Manny favour 114-114)
I guess 115113 is all right,at most it could have been draw (if 8th rd for Manny)

Couple of enjoyable moments tho.Their speed is fvcking out of this World!

 

[movingtarget]

The fight pretty much went as expected. Manny could not land enough power punches or combinations. Mayweather fought in spurts and never really looked in big trouble. He recovered quickly from Pacman's first and best big shot . When Mayweather did become more aggressive he looked superior to Manny. Pacman tried hard but not good enough. Maybe four rounds to Manny only. A lot of Manny's punches in his flurries were not landing. Mayweather's speed and huge reach advantage made it very hard for his opponent. Was hoping for better but not the worst so called super fight I have seen.

 

[Jagartrott]

The money involved, the fact that one of those big-earners practices on women from time to time, the media hype - it all again confirms that this world is f*cked up.

 

[Merckx index]

I'm in the Philippines, and managed to see the fight live, for free. I was planning to pay to see it at a Recreation center, but I lost my internet connection where I live, and ended up going to an internet cafe for a while..There was a restaurant right across the street showing the fight, and I walked in--actually, rode in on my bike. No one asked for any money. I got a seat right in front of the TV, I've never had a better view of a fight. As everywhere over here, the noise level, of both the TV and the obviously partisan crowd, was 20-30 db beyond sanity, but otherwise it was fine.. I've lost a lot of money over here, so a freebie is always welcome.

I thought the fight was about as exciting as it could be, given Mayweather's style. I agree with moving target's take, Manny was competitive in every round, but didn't land enough shots. After the live fight, I watched the end of the fight on tape delay through a local station, and the Filipino commentators had Manny winning 8-4. I had already seen the compubox data by that time, so was wondering what they would say when they saw that. They were a little flustered, thought there must be something wrong with the data. Mayweather actually threw slightly more punches than Pacquiao, a very big surprise, and landed a much higher percent, as expected. Manny landed less than 20%, typical of a Mayweather opponent. So it's hard to see Manny getting the decision.. Kevin Iole of Yahoo Sports, whose fight judgments I've come to respect, had it 115-113, which I think is about a best-case scenario. Manny had one big moment in I think the fourth round when he pinned Floyd in the corner and pummelled him. The crowd went nuts, but most of the punches just hit Floyd's gloves, and Manny may have just tired himself out a little throwing them all..

The best Mayweather fight may have Maidana I last year. Maidana really flustered Floyd in the opening rounds,and one of the judges called it a draw. That fight could have gone either way, and had it been in Argentina, Maidana might well have won..Manny is faster than Maidana,and better defensively, but it may be Floyd learned a lot from that fight about how to counter him. When he fought Maidana the second time, he had far less trouble with him..

I think this fight ends the what-if-they had-met-sooner discussion. I think if they'd met five years ago, the result would have been similar. They both would have been a little faster, and as Alpe said, Manny might have had a little better chance of a KO, but most likely it would have been a decision like this.

 

[ray j willings]

Ha. Ha .all those fools, all that money
The most expensive boring inevitability
Bet they have a rematch. Fu%%in ridiculous.world has gone bonkers.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Re:

actually, rode in on my bike.

See now, I think your whole post is beautiful, but this part made me smile.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

So Pacquiao is saying he was fighting with a shoulder injury in his right shoulder. I guess that could explain why he threw less punches.

Anyway, a shame that Manny lost, but alas, 'twas to be expected.

The speed of these two is so sick though. As far as combat sports go I usually only watch kickboxing in the heavyweights. This was such a world of difference; I could (I guess also due to the stream quality) sometimes hardly see whether their punches connected or not.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Ha. Ha .all those fools, all that money
The most expensive boring inevitability
Bet they have a rematch. Fu%%in ridiculous.world has gone bonkers.

I'd gladly go get smacked by either one of them for 1% of what they took home. Both are smiling as they talk to their accountants this morning. Stubhub has some tickets go for high 5 figures before the match...amazing. One knucklehead on TV saying he had $70,000 riding on this fight..even if he won, the odds were nearly even...

 

[ray j willings]

I have no issue with combat sports"controlled" my wife teaches tai t'sung "kung fu". It's the amount of money
I know it's a cliche but but it is true. The wealth needs to be shared. S
Most of that money will just sit there doing nothing.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Re: Re:

actually, rode in on my bike.

See now, I think your whole post is beautiful, but this part made me smile.

I thought the exact same thing. Best comment in the entire thread.

Fight went almost exactly as I predicted. A lot of people too actually.

 

[ILovecycling]

I have no issue with combat sports"controlled" my wife teaches tai t'sung "kung fu". It's the amount of money
I know it's a cliche but but it is true. The wealth needs to be shared. S
Most of that money will just sit there doing nothing.

ohh cmon, this is 'weird'

 

[gooner]

One thing that has riled me is the predicted reaction from much of the MMA world and fanbase with their tiresome "death of boxing" mantra that has continuously been used over the years. It's a puppet reaction steeming from Dana White's comments over the years and it's a vain approach which tries to monopolise the fan base instead of accepting that people can be fans of both codes at the same time.

Moreover it's a hugely presented falsehood coming off Grooves/Froch and even taking Alvarez's upcoming fight. Taking PPV figures, only 8 UFC shows have gone over a million buys and a lot of them were Lesnar's.

I point this out even as someone who used to watch many UFC events in the past and attended one with Henderson v Franklin headlining.

On the fight, Manny was tentative early on but it was as a direct worry in the back of his head of Floyd's strenghth of fighting on the back foot. What was surprising was just the one or two pot shots at times on Manny's part which is food and drink for someone like Floyd.

Floyd is a deep thinking fighter and you have take that aspect away from his game. De La Hoya did it at times and even Hatton did it in the early rounds of his fight.

If Khan was to fight him, it's better going in with his style like he did against Alexander than compromise due to Mayweather's counter punching strength. It's risky I know, but the tentative approach which was a result I think of Manny watching DVDs of Floyd, something he didn't do before was a big downfall. It showed a weakness on his part than concentrating more of his strengths in the first place.

 

[King Boonen]

I'm not much of a boxing fan and I'm certainly not a Mayweather fan in any way, but surely it's obvious the only way you're going to beat him is by knocking him out?

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

Floyd's also a technician. So not surprised by the outcome.

 

[Pricey_sky]

As expected with the Mayweather points win, the bookies knew what was coming as it was below evens for that result. Manny just didn't have the speed to get close to knocking Mayweather out and for what its worth I had Floyd 4 rounds up.