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But no, it's not due to tremendous luck or skills that most dopers are not found. It's a lack of testing. And that's a money issue that's hard to solve.
Uhm no, it's pretty well documented. It's not THAT hard.
Another example: Keep in mind that we have two riders being associated to testosterone pacthes: Floyd and Lance. I seriously doubt that they were the only ones or that it was anything special considering the extremely pedestrian way to administer doping. Logic indicates that this almost never got detected...
Lastly, Hog says it right: do you actually think that a burgeoning athlete knows that much more than we do? Do you actually think that the needed resources (methods) are not found online?
You overestimate the detection chances.
Yes and no. Yes, the best riders can afford the best doctors.kwikki said:I'm not sure you've understood my post, but hey.
I agree, most riders never fall foul of the anti-doping system. Why? Because they are lucky, careful, and the most tested (ie. Winning) ones probably have more skilled and informed doctors.
But no, it's not due to tremendous luck or skills that most dopers are not found. It's a lack of testing. And that's a money issue that's hard to solve.
But you are deluding yourself if you think you know for sure how they are doing it.
Uhm no, it's pretty well documented. It's not THAT hard.
Nonsense. For example Leinders had no "background in applied hematology" and though he was pretty good in keeping his riders from glowing, the vast majority of team-doctors managed to do that.I don't and unless you are somebody with an academic and professional background in applied haematology and anti-doping technology then you are just some guy who reads the internet (like me)
Another example: Keep in mind that we have two riders being associated to testosterone pacthes: Floyd and Lance. I seriously doubt that they were the only ones or that it was anything special considering the extremely pedestrian way to administer doping. Logic indicates that this almost never got detected...
Lastly, Hog says it right: do you actually think that a burgeoning athlete knows that much more than we do? Do you actually think that the needed resources (methods) are not found online?
You overestimate the detection chances.
You overlooked my answer: Occams Razer. There's no reason not to go with the hypothesis they still do it mostly old-school.kwikki said:There won't be an answer because it is a meaningless comparison which is why I didn't make it in the first place. It's irrelevant.
The point still stands that you cannot know what you dont know, and if you think otherwise perhaps you can enlighten us all as to exactly what doping practices are being used by current Tour champions and how they are evading tests. I want facts not speculation, please, and as much detail as possible.
Can you do it? No. So unless you think they are all doing it on energy bars and peanuts butter sandwiches then you'll have to accept my point.