Cadel Evans Discussion Thread

[maltiv]

Why would you choose Gilbert or Hushovd ahead of him? Neither have shown this season that they are better than him ability wise, and GVA is by far the greater team man. None of them are going to win a stage anyway (due to stage design/Sagan as much as their own form), so their contribution to the team is basically the only criterion on which they should be selected.

Hushovd is vital for the TTT though. If he has any sort of form he'll make a substantial difference there.

 

[Karl Max]

Hushovd was interviewed by norwegian TV2 after his silver medal after Boasson Hagen in the time trial in the norwegian national championship today.
He was asked about the team for tour de france, and he said unfortunatly it was not published today either. I think it will be published within some days, but obviously there is much going on within the team this days, he said. The journalist asked if he new if he was in the team, and he said I know more than you. Then the journalist asked if he new if he was starting or not. Yes , I know if I will start or not, but lets wait for the team to official announce this I am sure it will be announced in one of the coming days.
http://www.tv2.no/sport/sykkel/hush...det-skjer-tydeligvis-mye-i-laget-4074067.html

There is obviously someone who is not happy with the swing of things in the BMC team at the moment.

In this article in feltet.dk, a danish site:
http://feltet.dk/nyheder/tour-strid_for_mange_kokke_hos_bmc/

They suggest that Phillip Gilbert is not happy with the situation at the moment, and that he in an interview with Het Laatste Nieuws should have said: " The tour? Wich tour? At the moment I dont think I will be riding the tour." Then he according the article comes with a lot of critics towards John Lelangue which he normally has a very good relationship to.

In the article they point out that Gilberts problem is that he wants to ride the tour after his classical season where he did not get any wins. He wants a free role in the tour and go for his own chances to compensate for no wins so far. They also suggest that he is offended by Evans and van Garderen since they did not wanted to ride the ardenne classics to suport him.

To me I was thinking this article in feltet.dk was just speculations, but since the annoucment of the team is still delayed there must obviously be some kind of reason for it. So maybe they got a point after all.

 

[Taxus4a]

He has a big talent, he was impresive two years ago, maybe the Schleck with other tactics and without that descent for Andy, and with tailwind in Galibier, could have beaten him, but that strong final ITT put it difficult.

He was with a virus last year, but he has recover, and Giro has been a good training despite the bad weather and give him confidence to come back to his real level.

He has a good domestiques in TVG as well, becouse I hope he will improve his level of TdS for TdF

He is not going to do a superperformance, but he probably will stay there day by day in all kind of stages.

Froome is stronger now in my opinion, but will be a difficult rival that dont allow any mistake

 

[xanadu]

I just cant figure out why he rode the Giro, surely its still in his legs. I am inclined to think this TDF is going to be a long amd unpleasemt ride for Cadel.

 

[trevim]

I just cant figure out why he rode the Giro, surely its still in his legs. I am inclined to think this TDF is going to be a long amd unpleasemt ride for Cadel.

Well he got a podium so I think that alones justifies that he went there.
Anyway, this Giro wasn't as over the top as some of the recent years: maybe he can pull a decent double like Contador in 2011.

 

[Taxus4a]

I cant understand when people dont believe people. Has Evans proven as a lier anytime?

He said he did the Giro becouse it is the best for him to get shape for the Tour after his virus, so, I cant understand why dont believe that if in his case, make sense.

He did Tour once as leader and a month later almost win the Vuelta, it was for a puncture maybe, and after that he was World champion in Mendrisio.

They are people that cant double Giro-Tour, and others that do it is even best for them.

He could be with heath problems again or any other problem, but no more. In that case, they has TVG as a possible good leader as well

 

[Night Rider]

I just cant figure out why he rode the Giro, surely its still in his legs. I am inclined to think this TDF is going to be a long amd unpleasemt ride for Cadel.

I agree and I think it will end up being his last TDF as well.

 

[Jelantik]

I just cant figure out why he rode the Giro, surely its still in his legs. I am inclined to think this TDF is going to be a long amd unpleasemt ride for Cadel.

I agree and I think it will end up being his last TDF as well.

I agree. i think this leadership issue will be cropping again on the road. Like last year, with tejay pretended that he didn't hear cadel asking for help because he got puncture. Tejay will ride for himself despite what he said in the media. He thinks he is a GT contender *ugh choke*. I really hope cadel got his 2011 form back.

 

[movingtarget]

I just cant figure out why he rode the Giro, surely its still in his legs. I am inclined to think this TDF is going to be a long amd unpleasemt ride for Cadel.

Good chance it will be his last Tour but don't see why he won't perform. Some of the worst Giro stages were shortened so the race was not as hard as it should have been even though the weather was awful. Compared to his April form he stepped up and if he knows it will be his last Tour he will even be more committed to perform. As for riding the Giro, he needed the conditioning as has been mentioned before constantly. The long and unpleasant ride will be Andy Schleck's.

 

[maxmartin]

I agree. i think this leadership issue will be cropping again on the road. Like last year, with tejay pretended that he didn't hear cadel asking for help because he got puncture. Tejay will ride for himself despite what he said in the media. He thinks he is a GT contender *ugh choke*. I really hope cadel got his 2011 form back.

I think "double leaders-let the road decide" is already unwritten policy of BMC in this year Tour. Evans was seduced by the management to ride Giro. The whole purpose of this is to justify the policy.

 

[nick101]

This years tour is cadel's last ever??

 

[auscyclefan94]

This years tour is cadel's last ever??

I'd say second last.

 

[Afrank]

This years tour is cadel's last ever??

Maybe, maybe not. He is 36 though, if it's not his last year competing, it's likely to be his last year entering as a contender.

 

[nick101]

His contract with BMC finishes at the end of next year tho?? I didn't think evans was that old...

 

[movingtarget]

Maybe, maybe not. He is 36 though, if it's not his last year competing, it's likely to be his last year entering as a contender.

Yes I think so. If he rides for one more year I would like to see him ride the Ardenne classics maybe the Tour of California and then help TJVG in the Tour. And then maybe target a stage in the Vuelta if he is up to it. Tour of Lombardy was also one of his favourite races. The pressure will be off him so why not do something a bit different to his usual schedule to wind up his career unless he wants to keep going which is unlikely after 2014.

 

[bikeit]

I'd absolutey love to see him have a decent tilt at P-R

 

[nick101]

I'd absolutey love to see him have a decent tilt at P-R

The long and unpleasant ride will be Andy Schleck's.

Paris Roubaix for evans? he'd have to make some massive changes in his bike position but that would certainly be interesting. he doesn't have much experience in cobbled classics either.

I disagree about schleck. in his first gt ever he finished second (with a similar course to last years tdf) so I certainly wouldn't discount him. plus in that race it was a very decent field. He's working his **** off to get back to form and his improvements were massive over the course of the tds. He doesn't have to be overly fit until ventoux so I think its highly realistic for top ten.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Paris Roubaix for evans? he'd have to make some massive changes in his bike position but that would certainly be interesting. he doesn't have much experience in cobbled classics either.

I disagree about schleck. in his first gt ever he finished second (with a similar course to last years tdf) so I certainly wouldn't discount him. plus in that race it was a very decent field. He's working his **** off to get back to form and his improvements were massive over the course of the tds. He doesn't have to be overly fit until ventoux so I think its highly realistic for top ten.

he's too small for Roubaix. A 170cm rider who is around 66-67kg does now win Roubaix. Flanders, yes I think he could do well in.

 

[nick101]

I'd like to see him in decent form at the ardenes tho.
To be any good at cobbled classics, he'd have to gain about >10kg. That's unrealistic come to think of it.

 

[movingtarget]

Paris Roubaix for evans? he'd have to make some massive changes in his bike position but that would certainly be interesting. he doesn't have much experience in cobbled classics either.

I disagree about schleck. in his first gt ever he finished second (with a similar course to last years tdf) so I certainly wouldn't discount him. plus in that race it was a very decent field. He's working his **** off to get back to form and his improvements were massive over the course of the tds. He doesn't have to be overly fit until ventoux so I think its highly realistic for top ten.

Schleck is an enigma and even more so this year because of his pelvis injury and motivational problems. I don't think he will make it to Paris but if he does I won't mind. I would rather see him duelling with the best riders than finishing with the sprinters.

 

[nick101]

Schleck is an enigma and even more so this year because of his pelvis injury and motivational problems. I don't think he will make it to Paris but if he does I won't mind. I would rather see him duelling with the best riders than finishing with the sprinters.

I just can't look past schleck for top ten. He came 2nd in a field of far from clean riders that set records on famous giro climbs, in his first gt . His form at the tds was similar to VDB and Rolland's at the dauphine (you'd consider them top ten yes??) but he was improving massively each day (top 40 does not indicate how well he was riding by the end), he's more motivated this season than what I've seen him before btw. He went from getting dropped on a flat stage to being top ten climber on the albulapass stage and doing a massive pull on the front for the kreuziger/frank group. His abilities coupled with his past results and continual improvements mean I seriously consider him a top ten rider.

That's just my interpretation and prediction of andy at this years tour; this thread is about cadel anyway....

 

[eljimberino]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-29/evans-rubbishes-armstrong27s-doping-claims/4789272

 

[Yingge]

Anyone heard/seen any news on Cadel since the TDF ended?

Has he hung up his bike for the year, or heading to Colorado again?

His web site, twitter, wife's twitter, BMC web site are all silent in regard to his schedule.

 

[all_in]

Anyone heard/seen any news on Cadel since the TDF ended?

Has he hung up his bike for the year, or heading to Colorado again?

His web site, twitter, wife's twitter, BMC web site are all silent in regard to his schedule.

Usually after TdF he trevel for one or two weeks in Australia.

 

[Yingge]

His trips to Australia are usually in November/December - after Lombardia, though the short visit in August 2011 was an exception.