Can anyone beat these 6

[Spine Concept]

Hey guys! Remember Peter Sagan?

Who?

 

[Brumdog66]

Mads Pedersen can

 

[DaLong]

Hey guys! Remember Peter Sagan?

Hoping like hell we get a RvV or PR this year or at least once that has Sagan in the final group with these guys heading into the Kwaremont or the Roubaix velodrome. We’ll see...

 

[Spine Concept]

Mads Pedersen can

Nah. He can’t stay with them long enough to try and contest the sprint. Even then I put both Wout and Mathieu over him in a sprint after a very hard day. Not to mention an uphill finish.

 

[Brumdog66]

Nah. He can’t stay with them long enough to try and contest the sprint. Even then I put both Wout and Mathieu over him in a sprint after a very hard day. Not to mention an uphill finish.

Think it's possible he can beat them in a flat sprint after the heavier sprinters have been dropped, he's won pan-flat sprints before and been second on the champs-elysees. Also copes with very hard days extremely well

 

[BlueRoads]

Mads Pedersen can beat them. The odds are not in his favour, but on a day when things go well for him, he's definitely capable and then it's not a complete surprise.

 

[Spine Concept]

Think it's possible he can beat them in a flat sprint after the heavier sprinters have been dropped, he's won pan-flat sprints before and been second on the champs-elysees. Also copes with very hard days extremely well

I disagree. He’ll have to prove that. If he can manage to stay with the big 3 it is...

 

[CyclistA+]

Hey guys! Remember Peter Sagan?

Peter who?

 

[HelloDolly]

and now we hear Pogacar numbers at Tirreno are so much better than Froome in 2013 and Nibali in 2012
But even Niablis numbers are almost a minute better than in 2012 yet he was dropped today

Fuglsang numbers were better at Strade Bianche than ever before and yet he could only hang in the second 2nd group

Must be very disheartening that you are better than ever and still miles off the pace

Great rider and all the Mads Petersen is I dont put him with the top 6
He will not beat VdP or WVA or Allpahillipe or Benett in each one best terrain

And of course he will not beat Ganna in TT
or Rog or Pog in the mountains/up hill finishes

 

[Breezy1985]

Who?

He was an actor. Played the lead in Grease

 

[Brumdog66]

I disagree. He’ll have to prove that. If he can manage to stay with the big 3 it is...

Already proved he can see off MVDP in a very hard race

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Eddy Merckx
Thomas De Ghendt (when he has one of those days)
Peter Sagan (by just using his elbows)
Philippe Gilbert (back in 2011)
Hirschi & Cosnefroy

 

[Spine Concept]

Already proved he can see off MVDP in a very hard race

If you mean Worlds it has been well-documented that Mathieu bonked. He simply didn’t eat enough. Won’t make that mistake twice. Where was Mads in Amstel? RVV? Strade? BP? DDV?

Like I said, he has to manage to stay with the big 3 first... Then he can face the next challenge of beating them in a sprint after a hard race.

 

[Brumdog66]

If you mean Worlds it has been well-documented that Mathieu bonked. He simply didn’t eat enough. Won’t make that mistake twice. Where was Mads in Amstel? RVV? Strade? BP? DDV?

Like I said, he has to manage to stay with the big 3 first... Then he can face the next challenge of beating them in a sprint after a hard race.

I'm not saying he's as good a rider as either of them just that there is a situation in a race just hard enough to drop the sprinters where he can beat WVA (and the others) a decent amount of the time

 

[Spine Concept]

I'm not saying he's as good a rider as either of them just that there is a situation in a race just hard enough to drop the sprinters where he can beat WVA (and the others) a decent amount of the time

I respect your right to an opinion but I simply disagree on the count of little to no data in that regard for anything conclusive in his favor.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

MWS can beat 4 of them

 

[HelloDolly]

So not including Ganna on the list was great foresight afterall

 

[jaylew]

Maybe, but then you also included Bennett who's already been beaten twice. Different disciplines, of course.

 

[Scarponi]

Surely Ewan can turn it around vs Bennet

 

[jaylew]

He's 1-2 vs Bennett this year so it's certainly possible but Bennett seems to be better at positioning which is of course a big part of sprinting.

 

[Pantani_lives]

Yes, they can beat each other.

 

[Ulle97]

and now we hear Pogacar numbers at Tirreno are so much better than Froome in 2013 and Nibali in 2012
But even Niablis numbers are almost a minute better than in 2012 yet he was dropped today

Fuglsang numbers were better at Strade Bianche than ever before and yet he could only hang in the second 2nd group

Must be very disheartening that you are better than ever and still miles off the pace

Great rider and all the Mads Petersen is I dont put him with the top 6
He will not beat VdP or WVA or Allpahillipe or Benett in each one best terrain

And of course he will not beat Ganna in TT
or Rog or Pog in the mountains/up hill finishes

Better than ever but still miles off the pace..... unfortunately suspicions will grow.

 

[happytramp]

Better than ever but still miles off the pace..... unfortunately suspicions will grow.

Bound to happen when a guy can outsprint the fastest sprinter, out time trial the world's best time trialist and drop 3 former Tdf winners on a climb.

 

[Earns1985]

8 times MdvP, WVA, and JA have been in the same race. 8 times one of them won. (that's what I heard today--there must be some sort of qualification--not sure)

Well, they had also been together in the race at stage 4 and stage 6 of Tirreno-Adriatico and none of these three won, so this statistic may have his mistakes..
But generally I agree, when there is hilly terrain and one of these three really want to win, it´s difficult at the moment to beat them.

 

[SafeBet]

Well, they had also been together in the race at stage 4 and stage 6 of Tirreno-Adriatico and none of these three won, so this statistic may have his mistakes.

Or more likely this statistic was posted before stage 4 and stage 6 took place.