Carlos Betancur discussion thread

[BigMac]

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Quintana hinted (see also the Valverde thread) that Betancur will help Valverde in the Ardennes and afterwards he wants to gain a spot in the Tour-team

CB has a lot of work to do in order to gain a spot on the Tour team for Movistar.

I'm looking forward to seeing him make it.

In all seriousness, I'd send him to the TDU. It's a race that suits him and if Betancur wants leadership at Paris Nice and a free role in the Ardennes this would be a good place to start.

If he does turn up overweight, then racing in 35-40 degree heat should melt some lard off. Just keep him away from the Cooper's and 4 'n 20's

There's no free role in the Ardennes with Valverde in your team

Costa sorta had a free role in the Ardennes while at Movistar.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Re: Re:

Quintana hinted (see also the Valverde thread) that Betancur will help Valverde in the Ardennes and afterwards he wants to gain a spot in the Tour-team

CB has a lot of work to do in order to gain a spot on the Tour team for Movistar.

I'm looking forward to seeing him make it.

In all seriousness, I'd send him to the TDU. It's a race that suits him and if Betancur wants leadership at Paris Nice and a free role in the Ardennes this would be a good place to start.

If he does turn up overweight, then racing in 35-40 degree heat should melt some lard off. Just keep him away from the Cooper's and 4 'n 20's

Not sure if you're joking, but heat is awful for losing weight. It makes you more tired with less effort, so you end up using less energy. Plus, your body burns less calories keeping your core temperature up.

In any case, AG2R in 2015 already tried the whole 'force him to train by constantly having him in races' thing. It only worked up to a point.

 

[Mr.White]

Re: Re:

Quintana hinted (see also the Valverde thread) that Betancur will help Valverde in the Ardennes and afterwards he wants to gain a spot in the Tour-team

CB has a lot of work to do in order to gain a spot on the Tour team for Movistar.

I'm looking forward to seeing him make it.

In all seriousness, I'd send him to the TDU. It's a race that suits him and if Betancur wants leadership at Paris Nice and a free role in the Ardennes this would be a good place to start.

If he does turn up overweight, then racing in 35-40 degree heat should melt some lard off. Just keep him away from the Cooper's and 4 'n 20's

There's no free role in the Ardennes with Valverde in your team

Costa sorta had a free role in the Ardennes while at Movistar.

I wouldn't really call that a free role (even sort of). Costa had the task of responding to late moves, and maybe to attack himself late in the race. But the idea was to put pressure off Valverde and to allow him to just follow

 

[Moviestar]

Re: Re:

Quintana hinted (see also the Valverde thread) that Betancur will help Valverde in the Ardennes and afterwards he wants to gain a spot in the Tour-team

CB has a lot of work to do in order to gain a spot on the Tour team for Movistar.

I'm looking forward to seeing him make it.

In all seriousness, I'd send him to the TDU. It's a race that suits him and if Betancur wants leadership at Paris Nice and a free role in the Ardennes this would be a good place to start.

If he does turn up overweight, then racing in 35-40 degree heat should melt some lard off. Just keep him away from the Cooper's and 4 'n 20's

There's no free role in the Ardennes with Valverde in your team

In theory Movistar has more cards to play now in the final. A good Moreno and Betancur could benefit of the full focus on Valverde. In the recent years there was less to zero diversity in the Movistar tactics, especially if you would compare it with teams like Katusha who would have more men in the final so they could bet on both Caruso (solo) and Rodriguez for example.

 

[Moviestar]

Betancur will start from zero. He wants to be the rider he was in 2013. I expect him to race a lot in the first months..

http://www.marca.com/2015/11/09/ciclismo/1447091575.html

 

[42x16ss]

Re: Re:

Quintana hinted (see also the Valverde thread) that Betancur will help Valverde in the Ardennes and afterwards he wants to gain a spot in the Tour-team

CB has a lot of work to do in order to gain a spot on the Tour team for Movistar.

I'm looking forward to seeing him make it.

In all seriousness, I'd send him to the TDU. It's a race that suits him and if Betancur wants leadership at Paris Nice and a free role in the Ardennes this would be a good place to start.

If he does turn up overweight, then racing in 35-40 degree heat should melt some lard off. Just keep him away from the Cooper's and 4 'n 20's

Not sure if you're joking, but heat is awful for losing weight. It makes you more tired with less effort, so you end up using less energy. Plus, your body burns less calories keeping your core temperature up.

In any case, AG2R in 2015 already tried the whole 'force him to train by constantly having him in races' thing. It only worked up to a point.

If you look after yourself it works but true, it can go wrong. The best place for a pro to base themselves in the Aus summer is Bright, Victoria, a few hours from Melbourne. There's no less than 3 Cat 1 climbs about an hours ride away and more teams use it as TDU prep every year.

 

[Escarabajo]

Betancur LOL.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/betancur-now-well-see-who-was-right-me-or-ag2r/

If he starts to perform it does not prove anything. Or maybe it does. It proves that he was an idiot for being a fat a$$ for two years. He can only blame himself.

 

[jens_attacks]

The guy is totally a lost cause.
I love him

 

[BigMac]

#cringe

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

The only positive thing that can be taken from that article is that he seems very impressed with Valverde. There are many reasons to dislike Valverde, but one thing he can't be accused of is a lack of professionalism. The guy turns up in good nick to races all season long.

 

[TourOfTexas]

Show us what you can do, porky.

 

[proffz]

he can win a monument, liege or lombardia, he can win classic , classic or flèche.
he can podium a GT, giro or vuelta.
he already showed that all this things are in his reach, if.......

 

[Moviestar]

A good sign. Betancur is going to live in Pamplona with his family. Fellow Colombians like Uran, Quintana and Anacona also inhabitants of Pamplona.

 

[Brullnux]

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A good sign. Betancur is going to live in Pamplona with his family. Fellow Colombians like Uran, Quintana and Anacona also inhabitants of Pamplona.

Nice. Pamplona is very nice. This might mean Betancur will be a force by April 2016, and a monster during San Fermin.

 

[May0maniac]

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A good sign. Betancur is going to live in Pamplona with his family. Fellow Colombians like Uran, Quintana and Anacona also inhabitants of Pamplona.

Ok, that could work. When he's in shape he seems to have crazy recovery, just look at 2013, he was a beast in the Ardennes classics and one of the strongest riders in the 2nd and 3rd week of the Giro.

 

[Guybrush]

Hey! it's november! where is the mandatory out-of-shape Betancur pic?

 

[Jspear]

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Hey! it's november! where is the mandatory out-of-shape Betancur pic?

Those were all posted during the middle of the season.

 

[hfer07]

Congratulations to Carlos for his recent marriage to his long time sweetheart. Hopefully this event in combination with the switch to Movistar will relaunch his career & his shape issues become a chapter closed in his sporting life

https://www.instagram.com/p/-sXnexFf6K/

 

[Escarabajo]

Well, still need to loose some weight from the looks of it.

 

[Fernandez]

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Well, still need to loose some weight from the looks of it.

I was thinking the same. He looks clearly overweight (for a profesional cyclist)

 

[Beech Mtn]

I do not think my move supposes a second chance for me. I see is as a continuation on the same trajectory," Betancur said. "I face this new stage eagerly, there are many reasons to find the best team in the world. Now it only remains to try. My goal is to do well wherever I go. I am a young man who has sacrificed so much, and the last two years I have suffered will not become an impediment to achieve great things in the future."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/new...rash-contador-and-sagan-take-to-paddleboards/

 

[hrotha]

His consistent inability to admit to any serious wrongdoing is rather troubling.

 

[damian13ster]

Maybe he just admits he will continue on the same trajectory- aka, be kicked out of professional cycling in 2017?

 

[staubsauger]

If he sucks again in 2017 there even ain't no entry in the Gianni Savio last chance saloon for 2018, I fear.

 

[ice&fire]

Unzué should set a weight threshold and send him to the cobbles if he's above it