Cav is...

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if you ain't replacin' you ain't racin' cowboy...carry on ladies..

What... what does this even mean?

It means that if you aren't breaking some stuff then you are going too slow!
When are you you UK's going to learn to talk American?!

 

[Divine Intervention]

"Bystanders claimed that Cavendish responded to criticism from riders after Tuesday's incident by spitting on the ground on front of them."

LMAO!

Brilliant.

 

[Cerberus]

Don't mistake criticism for hate. Your boy was in quite a mood this morning.

From Velonews ticker:


C.F.Pelkey: By the way, folks, the race was delayed a bit today when riders from several teams protested the aggressive tactics by Mark Cavendish.

Riders from the Cervelo, Caisse d'Epargne and AG2R teams, whose colleagues Heinrich Haussler, Arnaud Coyot and Lloyd Mondory were forced to quit the race because of their injuries expressed their anger at the attitude of HTC-Columbia's Cavendish.

"We just want to send a message to Cavendish to ask him for more respect," said AG2R director Gilles Mas, whose team rider Sebastien Hinault was elbowed by the British rider in the fourth stage.

Bystanders claimed that Cavendish responded to criticism from riders after Tuesday's incident by spitting on the ground on front of them.

Cavendish, who started the stage with his right knee bandaged, said:

"I'm not going to say that I'm not at fault but I don't think I should have been held as the sole responsible. It's the worst fall of my career, the worst injuries that I've suffered. But there are riders who are in a worse state than me."
Wednesday June 16, 2010 3:09 C.F.Pelkey


A wise response? I'll let you decide.

Wow, he needs PR training soooo badly.

 

[Anonymous]

Wow, he needs PR training soooo badly.

i think the spitting on the ground in front of them is insane.... that never would have happened as it is being written..

makes it sound like he walked up to them western style, chewed on some tobacco for a second, and then spat at their feet..

much more likely he happened to just spit, while waiting for the start and the press put 2 and 2 together.. even cav isnt that stupid..

 

[Divine Intervention]

Wow, he needs PR training soooo badly.

Well the Isle of Man is a small place. This is how they deal with trouble makers in those parts.

Cav might have to give their hinds a tanning if they keep on.

 

[Anonymous]

Not that I'm at all sympathetic ...

http://tweetphoto.com/27474518

I am not sympathetic at all. He is lucky that is all that happened to him. I hope he doesn't sleep for days.

His reaction of spitting on the ground today only goes to prove that he is a smarmy little taintstain. I generally like cocky sprinters, and I like him most of the time, but yesterday, he took out guys who also make their living doing this. I have not read anywhere his apology for crashing out the sprint. Oh well, the guy is an idiot, and entertaining idiot, but an idiot none the less.

 

[Anonymous]

...and of course your being a British racing fan has no bearing on you minimizing Cavendish's responsibility in causing this carnage.

No it doesnt. and i would like it if you could credit me with enough intelligence to be able to make informed impartial opinions.

I actually find your assumption that my thoughts are all nationalistly motivated rather insulting.

 

[Cobblestones]

i think the spitting on the ground in front of them is insane.... that never would have happened as it is being written..

makes it sound like he walked up to them western style, chewed on some tobacco for a second, and then spat at their feet..

much more likely he happened to just spit, while waiting for the start and the press put 2 and 2 together.. even cav isnt that stupid..

I didn't see what happened and neither did you. So we don't know, but what you write has a taste of self-delusion.

 

[Anonymous]

Wow there is such hate out there, which i cant believe as Cycling is such a beautiful sport.

He may have been at fault but it is not like he has caused loads of crashes before and normally does sprint in a straight line.

I think some people need to read their comments before posting them and think how vicious they sound, and then calm down

BPC, you have been reported again. Hopefully you won't get into the teens in post count this time. Toodles!

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

even cav isnt that stupid..

I would never under-estimate his capacity for stupidity.

He thinks he is a Premiership footballer who can do whatever he likes because he is famous and because he is constantly indulged by fans and journalists.

 

[Divine Intervention]

I suppose Cav could have apologised. But then again, if he thinks it's a racing incident and he didn't do it deliberately then he might not want to show guilt. It would be like admitting it was all his fault. I can see why he would not do thta.

But these protest riders shouldn't try to hold back the peloton. That's dangerous and can cause accidents as people cleat up to go.

 

[doddy13]

"cause the press says it, it must be true"
Hey, don't believe everything you read kids, by that I mean people spit so what? It could just have been a coincidence?
Of course, the Cavendish hatred seems to get in the way of people, just as the Cavendish love does.

As for the protest today, can we rename the thread "The peloton are f'ing idiots", it's happened before. Is it a case that there are some serious people with problems with Cavendish, maybe personal, maybe just the fact they don't like his domination, here's an opportunity.

Cavendish is a personality, it seems on this forum personalities are bad things. Everyone hurry up and be bland!

 

[Divine Intervention]

I would never under-estimate his capacity for stupidity.

He thinks he is a Premiership footballer who can do whatever he likes because he is famous and because he is constantly indulged by fans and journalists.

Do you have any evidence that Cav behaves like this away from the race?

I think he is quite humble in his private life. I don't think you should infer and assert things.

 

[Anonymous]

I didn't see what happened and neither did you. So we don't know, but what you write has a taste of self-delusion.

i just find it ridiculous to imagine that anyone with even half a brain would walk up to the riders protesting and spit at their feet.. think about it, picture it in your head.. its ridiculous..

and im almost sure there would be press footage to back it up..

I just find that particular part of the article a little far fetched.. maybe something got lost in translation somewhere and last nights spitting incident between cav and haussler has got muddled into this mornings story.

i am also getting kinda sick of cervelho this year though. They have been whining about something pretty much since qatar.

 

[Cobblestones]

"cause the press says it, it must be true"
Hey, don't believe everything you read kids, by that I mean people spit so what? It could just have been a coincidence?
Of course, the Cavendish hatred seems to get in the way of people, just as the Cavendish love does.

As for the protest today, can we rename the thread "The peloton are f'ing idiots", it's happened before. Is it a case that there are some serious people with problems with Cavendish, maybe personal, maybe just the fact they don't like his domination, here's an opportunity.

Cavendish is a personality, it seems on this forum personalities are bad things. Everyone hurry up and be bland!

No. For instance Indurain has a personally. We call it 'classy'.

 

[Cervelo77]

He cut across the field. I'll pin this one on Cav.

 

[Anonymous]

Do you have any evidence that Cav behaves like this away from the race?

I think he is quite humble in his private life. I don't think you should infer and assert things.

Maybe the fiancee he dumped right before they were to be married might disagree, no?

 

[Hawkwood]

I am not sympathetic at all. He is lucky that is all that happened to him. I hope he doesn't sleep for days.

His reaction of spitting on the ground today only goes to prove that he is a smarmy little taintstain. I generally like cocky sprinters, and I like him most of the time, but yesterday, he took out guys who also make their living doing this. I have not read anywhere his apology for crashing out the sprint. Oh well, the guy is an idiot, and entertaining idiot, but an idiot none the less.

Other `idiots' using your categorisation include Tom Steels, Cipollini, Sean Kelly, Erik Zabel, and those are only the ones I can remember that have been penalised for dangerous sprinting. Kelly even used to practise crashing! Cavendish makes his living sprinting so it's also not in his interests to crash. If this is the only major crash he causes as a sprinter then he will be a very lucky sprinter.

 

[Divine Intervention]

Maybe the fiancee he dumped right before they were to be married might disagree, no?

Why? Can nobody have a relationship that falls apart?

 

[Cerberus]

i think the spitting on the ground in front of them is insane.... that never would have happened as it is being written..

makes it sound like he walked up to them western style, chewed on some tobacco for a second, and then spat at their feet..

much more likely he happened to just spit, while waiting for the start and the press put 2 and 2 together.. even cav isnt that stupid..

As Cobblestones said neither of us saw it. I wasn't referring to that though (but in retrospect I definitely see how an observer would read it like that). I was referring to his statement of

" I'm not going to say that I'm not at fault but I don't think I should have been held as the sole responsible. It's the worst fall of my career, the worst injuries that I've suffered. But there are riders who are in a worse state than me."

First he makes an impersonal halfway admission that it was in fact his fault, the he blames others (Hausler presumably), the he complains about his own self-inflicted, non-serious injuries, and only then does he spare half a sentence for the people who actually got seriously hurt.
It comes across as whiny, selfish and trying to dodge his responsibility to me. If he'd suffered career ending injuries, then I could probably have mustered some sympathy, but road rash? I just hope that will make him sprint less recklessly in the future. The 175 dollar fine and 30 second time penalty certainly will not.

 

[doddy13]

As mrs. John Murphy siad neither of us saw it. I wasn't referring to that though (but in retrospect I definitely see how an observer would read it like that). I was referring to his statement of

" I'm not going to say that I'm not at fault but I don't think I should have been held as the sole responsible. It's the worst fall of my career, the worst injuries that I've suffered. But there are riders who are in a worse state than me."

First he makes an impersonal halfway admission that it was in fact his fault, the he blames others (Hausler presumably), the he complains about his own self-inflicted, non-serious injuries, and only then does he spare half a sentence for the people who actually got seriously hurt.
It comes across as whiny, selfish and trying to dodge his responsibility to me. If he'd suffered career ending injuries, then I could probably have mustered some sympathy, but road rash? I just hope that will make him sprint less recklessly in the future. The 175 dollar fine and 30 second time penalty certainly will not.

I think thats an OK statement to make. He's saying it's partially his fault (which is correct). Then he is addressing people thinking he set out to cause the crash by saying "I have injures you know, and i don't like that" and then mentioned the others which people knew about.

 

[cycledan]

Cav wasn't entirely at fault

Cav veered a bit and I am OK if the race jury penalized him but what he did was not so egregious. In nearly all sprints, racers go to the side a bit. When you come around a guy at the end of a race, you have to know to give him a little distance to either side. They were tired men going all out and sometimes that results in taking things right to the edge. Haussler also was coming into Cav a bit. I just hope he recovers fast from his injuries.

 

[Anonymous]

I suppose Cav could have apologised. But then again, if he thinks it's a racing incident and he didn't do it deliberately then he might not want to show guilt. It would be like admitting it was all his fault. I can see why he would not do thta.

But these protest riders shouldn't try to hold back the peloton. That's dangerous and can cause accidents as people cleat up to go.

Wow BPC posting under multiple names today. That is bold. Reported.

 

[Cerberus]

I think thats an OK statement to make. He's saying it's partially his fault (which is correct). Then he is addressing people thinking he set out to cause the crash by saying "I have injures you know, and i don't like that" and then mentioned the others which people knew about.

No he's not saying it was particularly his fault, he's saying that he's not saying it wasn't his fault. He can't even man up to actually come right out and say that he has a responsibility.

Besides has anyone actually said that he cause the crash deliberately? I've heard plenty of people say that he deliberately rode in a reckless fashion which is reasonable, but I haven't seen anyone say that he cause the crash deliberately, which would clearly be crazy. I've hear people attack the idea he crashed on purpose, but I haven't noticed the actual claim. I won't exclude the possibility that some moron said that, but I'd like to see it first.

 

[doddy13]

No he's not saying it was particularly his fault, he's saying that he's not saying it wasn't his fault. He can't even man up to actually come right out and say that he has a responsibility.

You have to read between the lines, but that is exactly what he is saying.