Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

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Is Froome over the hill?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 42 34.4%
  • No, the GC finished 40 minutes ago but Froomie is still climbing it

    Votes: 65 53.3%
  • No he is totally winning the Vuelta

    Votes: 28 23.0%

  • Total voters
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Froome in his Romandie-shape would have struggled with these guys. But he will probably be at another in level in the Tour.
 
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ray j willings said:
"There's no way about it next years Tour is going to be about the mountains" Chris Froome

What part of that sentence don't you understand :D You do understand that Mountains= climbing :rolleyes:
I am willing to accept a very very late apology

The reason that it will be all about the mountains is that there is ‘little time-trialing’. :rolleyes:

The mountains in the Giro and TDF routes are comparable; it is the amount of TT kms that are drastically different. Ergo, the reason Froome was considering riding the giro was due to the amount of TTing, not because the TDF had ‘to (sic) much climbing’ as you wrote.
 
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djpbaltimore said:
ray j willings said:
"There's no way about it next years Tour is going to be about the mountains" Chris Froome

What part of that sentence don't you understand :D You do understand that Mountains= climbing :rolleyes:
I am willing to accept a very very late apology

The reason that it will be all about the mountains is that there is ‘little time-trialing’. :rolleyes:

The mountains in the Giro and TDF routes are comparable; it is the amount of TT kms that are drastically different. Ergo, the reason Froome was considering riding the giro was due to the amount of TTing, not because the TDF had ‘to (sic) much climbing’ as you wrote.

"All the mountains" you ever watched the :D tour

Jesus. Froome mentioned the amount of climbing because it is relevant to him.
If it was just about the ITT he would never have said this

"With six mountain-top finishes it is going to be an aggressive and massively demanding race" Froome

Many thanks.
 
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SeriousSam said:
I wonder what the Dawg is thinking, watching the climbing performances of this Giro.

How much time he could have put into them I would think, if he's on form.
 
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SeriousSam said:
I wonder what the Dawg is thinking, watching the climbing performances of this Giro.

He knows Richie and he doesn't care about Aru so there was just one guy who caught his attention but didn't impress him much.
 
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ray j willings said:
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"All the mountains" you ever watched the :D tour

Jesus. Froome mentioned the amount of climbing because it is relevant to him.
If it was just about the ITT he would never have said this

"With six mountain-top finishes it is going to be an aggressive and massively demanding race" Froome

Many thanks.

Depending on how you classify the 'medium mountain' Giro stages like yesterday, it also has 6 MTF, so why is that not 'to (sic) much climbing'?

If you don't answer my question, I will just assume that you are not debating honestly. If the 2015 TDF had the same amount of MTFs but 100Km of TTs, would Froome even have considered riding the Giro? No, further confirming my point that his decision was based on the TT kms. End of story.

Many thanks. :D
 
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djpbaltimore said:
ray j willings said:
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"All the mountains" you ever watched the :D tour

Jesus. Froome mentioned the amount of climbing because it is relevant to him.
If it was just about the ITT he would never have said this

"With six mountain-top finishes it is going to be an aggressive and massively demanding race" Froome

Many thanks.

Depending on how you classify the 'medium mountain' Giro stages like yesterday, it also has 6 MTF, so why is that not 'to (sic) much climbing'?

If you don't answer my question, I will just assume that you are not debating honestly. If the 2015 TDF had the same amount of MTFs but 100Km of TTs, would Froome even have considered riding the Giro? No, further confirming my point that his decision was based on the TT kms. End of story.

Many thanks. :D

"With six mountain-top finishes it is going to be an aggressive and massively demanding race" Froome

If it was just about the TT he would not have mentioned all the climbing. He obviously did not expect so much climbing in the tour route and obviously did not fancy it as he cannot rely on hIs TT to get time back that he could lose in the mountains.

Now perhaps you understand ,,,,but I doubt it :D
 
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“The Giro course is truly balanced well, the best,” Froome said.

“I love the Tour, nothing’s changed,” Froome explained. “The Giro is truly a great opportunity, the route suits me very well, like I said, it’s well-balanced.'

So where is he complaining about 'to (sic) much climbing'? I know you understand because you did not answer my question. A mind is a terrible thing to waste Ray.
 
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djpbaltimore said:
“The Giro course is truly balanced well, the best,” Froome said.

“I love the Tour, nothing’s changed,” Froome explained. “The Giro is truly a great opportunity, the route suits me very well, like I said, it’s well-balanced.'

So where is he complaining about 'to (sic) much climbing'? I know you understand because you did not answer my question. A mind is a terrible thing to waste Ray.

"With six mountain-top finishes it is going to be an aggressive and massively demanding race" Froome

Again . hopefully this time the basket ball we land in the net...
 
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ray j willings said:
"With six mountain-top finishes it is going to be an aggressive and massively demanding race" Froome

Again . hopefully this time the basket ball we land in the net...

And the Giro with its 6 MTF is not? :rolleyes:

BTW, nice grammar.
 
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djpbaltimore said:
ray j willings said:
"With six mountain-top finishes it is going to be an aggressive and massively demanding race" Froome

Again . hopefully this time the basket ball we land in the net...

And the Giro with its 6 MTF is not? :rolleyes:

BTW, nice grammar.

Fanx :D

I will be the bigger man and move on.
If you want to carry on to get ego satisfaction because of your refusal to acknowledge the words Froome spoke then that's your problem and your do seem to have a problem with it or perhaps your ego.
Maybe we will chat again on a different topic but I "as the bigger man" am moving on and letting it go.

I'm sure you will think of some kind of reply, so I say in advance "well done" :D

moving on. cheers :)
 
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Perplexing why the self-proclaimed 'bigger man' feels the need to grandstand and hurl personal insults on the way out of the door, when answering any of my questions would've put an end to the discussion ages ago.
 
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djpbaltimore said:
ray j willings said:
"With six mountain-top finishes it is going to be an aggressive and massively demanding race" Froome

Again . hopefully this time the basket ball we land in the net...

And the Giro with its 6 MTF is not? :rolleyes:

BTW, nice grammar.
Compensated by massive TT where he can take 2mins out of everybody offsets the mountains
 
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Tour has a stage in netherland coast with the wind, has a flecha valona, has a small Roubaix... it is not everything for climbers, but it is not the best route for Froome. If Quintana is alive and close at the begining of the mountains, he is the favourite.
 
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Taxus4a said:
Tour has a stage in netherland coast with the wind, has a flecha valona, has a small Roubaix... it is not everything for climbers, but it is not the best route for Froome. If Quintana is alive and close at the begining of the mountains, he is the favourite.

It's to early to talk about real favorites for the Tour. We'll have to wait till we are closer to July to determine what type of form Froome has. If he is in 2013 form than he is more of a favorite than Nairo.
 
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Rollthedice said:
SeriousSam said:
I wonder what the Dawg is thinking, watching the climbing performances of this Giro.

He knows Richie and he doesn't care about Aru so there was just one guy who caught his attention but didn't impress him much.

Let's see how impressed he will be at the first MTF of the Tour.

Doesn't care about Aru, because he won't be a rival at the Tour?
 
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Jspear said:
Taxus4a said:
Tour has a stage in netherland coast with the wind, has a flecha valona, has a small Roubaix... it is not everything for climbers, but it is not the best route for Froome. If Quintana is alive and close at the begining of the mountains, he is the favourite.

It's to early to talk about real favorites for the Tour. We'll have to wait till we are closer to July to determine what type of form Froome has. If he is in 2013 form than he is more of a favorite than Nairo.

Yeah, well, truth be told, the actual Nairo is different from 2 years ago.
 
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lenric said:
Jspear said:
Taxus4a said:
Tour has a stage in netherland coast with the wind, has a flecha valona, has a small Roubaix... it is not everything for climbers, but it is not the best route for Froome. If Quintana is alive and close at the begining of the mountains, he is the favourite.

It's to early to talk about real favorites for the Tour. We'll have to wait till we are closer to July to determine what type of form Froome has. If he is in 2013 form than he is more of a favorite than Nairo.

Yeah, well, truth be told, the actual Nairo is different from 2 years ago.

But have we seen what he can do in top form? The Giro 2013 Nario sure wouldn't have beaten 2013 Froome. Do you think Nairo is stronger now than in 2013?
 
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Jspear said:
lenric said:
Jspear said:
Taxus4a said:
Tour has a stage in netherland coast with the wind, has a flecha valona, has a small Roubaix... it is not everything for climbers, but it is not the best route for Froome. If Quintana is alive and close at the begining of the mountains, he is the favourite.

It's to early to talk about real favorites for the Tour. We'll have to wait till we are closer to July to determine what type of form Froome has. If he is in 2013 form than he is more of a favorite than Nairo.

Yeah, well, truth be told, the actual Nairo is different from 2 years ago.

But have we seen what he can do in top form? The Giro 2013 Nario sure wouldn't have beaten 2013 Froome. Do you think Nairo is stronger now than in 2013?
I would bet my house on it.Even if he is not physically stronger (which he is also) he is a lot more stronger mentally.
Froome needs to pull off his 2013 if he doesnt want to be dropped again and again by Quintana.
 
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Quintana will drop Froome on at least 2 stages. He will gain big time on at least one stage when Froome will have his usual blow up. Froome can't hide like in 2013 when there was no threat to his GT when he got dropped. Just like last years vuelta he may get a podium but that will depend if the other riders start playing silly games and let him in.
 
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ILovecycling said:
Jspear said:
lenric said:
Jspear said:
Taxus4a said:
Tour has a stage in netherland coast with the wind, has a flecha valona, has a small Roubaix... it is not everything for climbers, but it is not the best route for Froome. If Quintana is alive and close at the begining of the mountains, he is the favourite.

It's to early to talk about real favorites for the Tour. We'll have to wait till we are closer to July to determine what type of form Froome has. If he is in 2013 form than he is more of a favorite than Nairo.

Yeah, well, truth be told, the actual Nairo is different from 2 years ago.

But have we seen what he can do in top form? The Giro 2013 Nario sure wouldn't have beaten 2013 Froome. Do you think Nairo is stronger now than in 2013?
I would bet my house on it.Even if he is not physically stronger (which he is also) he is a lot more stronger mentally.
Froome needs to pull off his 2013 if he doesnt want to be dropped again and again by Quintana.

That's a fanboy view,Quintana is not better than Froome at the moment.Froome doesn't need his 2013 version to beat him.I don't think is possible for him to drop Froome at all by judging of what he showed this year,not that Fromme was too hot either.They both need drastic improvements for TDF or Nibali will run home with the prize again.
 
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DBotero said:
ILovecycling said:
Jspear said:
lenric said:
our has a stage in netherland coast with the wind, has a flecha valona, has a small Roubaix... it is not everything for climbers, but it is not the best route for Froome. If Quintana is alive and close at the begining of the mountains, he is the favourite.

It's to early to talk about real favorites for the Tour. We'll have to wait till we are closer to July to determine what type of form Froome has. If he is in 2013 form than he is more of a favorite than Nairo.

Yeah, well, truth be told, the actual Nairo is different from 2 years ago.

But have we seen what he can do in top form? The Giro 2013 Nario sure wouldn't have beaten 2013 Froome. Do you think Nairo is stronger now than in 2013?
I would bet my house on it.Even if he is not physically stronger (which he is also) he is a lot more stronger mentally.
Froome needs to pull off his 2013 if he doesnt want to be dropped again and again by Quintana.[/quote]

That's a fanboy view,Quintana is not better than Froome at the moment.Froome doesn't need his 2013 version to beat him.I don't think is possible for him to drop Froome at all by judging of what he showed this year,not that Fromme was too hot either.They both need drastic improvements for TDF or Nibali will run home with the prize again.[/quote]


This is so wrong that it made me laugh :D
Really, if you dont see that Quintana has better climbing legs than Froome this year then you are blind.And Nibali? lolz :D
 
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ILovecycling said:
DBotero said:
ILovecycling said:
Jspear said:
lenric said:
our has a stage in netherland coast with the wind, has a flecha valona, has a small Roubaix... it is not everything for climbers, but it is not the best route for Froome. If Quintana is alive and close at the begining of the mountains, he is the favourite.

It's to early to talk about real favorites for the Tour. We'll have to wait till we are closer to July to determine what type of form Froome has. If he is in 2013 form than he is more of a favorite than Nairo.

Yeah, well, truth be told, the actual Nairo is different from 2 years ago.

But have we seen what he can do in top form? The Giro 2013 Nario sure wouldn't have beaten 2013 Froome. Do you think Nairo is stronger now than in 2013?
I would bet my house on it.Even if he is not physically stronger (which he is also) he is a lot more stronger mentally.
Froome needs to pull off his 2013 if he doesnt want to be dropped again and again by Quintana.

That's a fanboy view,Quintana is not better than Froome at the moment.Froome doesn't need his 2013 version to beat him.I don't think is possible for him to drop Froome at all by judging of what he showed this year,not that Fromme was too hot either.They both need drastic improvements for TDF or Nibali will run home with the prize again.[/quote]


This is so wrong that it made me laugh :D
Really, if you dont see that Quintana has better climbing legs than Froome this year then you are blind.And Nibali? lolz :D[/quote]

Where he showed he has better climbing legs than Froome this year :confused: Last year people were laughing of Nibali too and you know how it ended.
 
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DBotero said:
ILovecycling said:
DBotero said:
ILovecycling said:
Jspear said:
our has a stage in netherland coast with the wind, has a flecha valona, has a small Roubaix... it is not everything for climbers, but it is not the best route for Froome. If Quintana is alive and close at the begining of the mountains, he is the favourite.

It's to early to talk about real favorites for the Tour. We'll have to wait till we are closer to July to determine what type of form Froome has. If he is in 2013 form than he is more of a favorite than Nairo.

Yeah, well, truth be told, the actual Nairo is different from 2 years ago.

But have we seen what he can do in top form? The Giro 2013 Nario sure wouldn't have beaten 2013 Froome. Do you think Nairo is stronger now than in 2013?
I would bet my house on it.Even if he is not physically stronger (which he is also) he is a lot more stronger mentally.
Froome needs to pull off his 2013 if he doesnt want to be dropped again and again by Quintana.

That's a fanboy view,Quintana is not better than Froome at the moment.Froome doesn't need his 2013 version to beat him.I don't think is possible for him to drop Froome at all by judging of what he showed this year,not that Fromme was too hot either.They both need drastic improvements for TDF or Nibali will run home with the prize again.[/quote]


This is so wrong that it made me laugh :D
Really, if you dont see that Quintana has better climbing legs than Froome this year then you are blind.And Nibali? lolz :D[/quote]

Where he showed he has better climbing legs than Froome this year :confused: Last year people were laughing of Nibali too and you know how it ended.[/quote]



He won Contador by a minute on Terminillo.Froome havent proved he can do that this season.
 

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