I forgot of the tour 2009 because of all the cheating riders, that were in that tour.You appear to have forgotten the 2009 Tour.
Please can you tell me how you did it. I would like to forget it too.
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I forgot of the tour 2009 because of all the cheating riders, that were in that tour.You appear to have forgotten the 2009 Tour.
Please can you tell me how you did it. I would like to forget it too.
You have to be a little bit delusional to have/expect the latest two winners of the TDF, ride as domestiques for the guy who won 3 years ago, is now 35, and has had a serious (possibly career ending) crash and hasn't raced since then.In portugal it s raining, but thanks for the concern!
It's a dilemma, Froome, Thomas and Bernal are all champions. And for various reaons of these three, Froome is probably the one Ineos is least connected with. But he's still the most accomplished rider in the team (and the peloton, other than arguably Nibali). I agree with Rui Machado, Froome should be #1. Ineos owes him that.
I think Froome owes Ineos more than Ineos owes Froome.It's a dilemma, Froome, Thomas and Bernal are all champions. And for various reaons of these three, Froome is probably the one Ineos is least connected with. But he's still the most accomplished rider in the team (and the peloton, other than arguably Nibali). I agree with Rui Machado, Froome should be #1. Ineos owes him that.
I don't think they owe Froome anything either. This is the same team that pushed Wiggins out and didn't want to support Cavendish because it had no factor on overall win besides maybe tiring riders out. Froome had a big injury, older, and hasn't raced in a longer time compared to others. The races being pushed back could even the lack of racing if his rivals haven't trained as hard. Further you have a young rider that won the Tour and should be getting better plus a darkhorse that won it before. I think they should bring him because he has value but they don't owe him. Plus think how that'll look to their young talent.
I'm looking forward to the moment in the first big mountain stage when Sivakov or whoever the last domestique is peels off, and Bernal Thomas and Froome all look at each other and say - who pulls now?
Tbh I do like those 20s where Contador gives Lance the stare and then just bazookas off.You appear to have forgotten the 2009 Tour.
Please can you tell me how you did it. I would like to forget it too.
They probably dont. Still I'm very surprised to see it happen if it does. I had thought no matter how good or bad Froome would be right now, his best shot or in case if that's no shot, his best contract would be with Ineos.I don't think they owe Froome anything either. This is the same team that pushed Wiggins out and didn't want to support Cavendish because it had no factor on overall win besides maybe tiring riders out. Froome had a big injury, older, and hasn't raced in a longer time compared to others. The races being pushed back could even the lack of racing if his rivals haven't trained as hard. Further you have a young rider that won the Tour and should be getting better plus a darkhorse that won it before. I think they should bring him because he has value but they don't owe him. Plus think how that'll look to their young talent.
I would love to know the real numbers of contador on that climb.Verbier was quite a good stage, the only time Contador has dominated a mountain stage in TdF for some reason.
They owed him and paid him handsomely.It's a dilemma, Froome, Thomas and Bernal are all champions. And for various reaons of these three, Froome is probably the one Ineos is least connected with. But he's still the most accomplished rider in the team (and the peloton, other than arguably Nibali). I agree with Rui Machado, Froome should be #1. Ineos owes him that.
You have to be a little bit delusional to have/expect the latest two winners of the TDF, ride as domestiques for the guy who won 3 years ago, is now 35, and has had a serious (possibly career ending) crash and hasn't raced since then.
That s what i said, everybody agrees with me that the best rider between thomas,bernal and froome, if all of them are at 100%, it s froome, so he is their best shot and should be the leader. But, i repeat, if froome recovers. If not, bernal should be the leader. Ineos will know before the tour, who is in best shape, they will have the numbers of froome and bernal. After that, they just have to chose the leader, and the other should be domestique.There's nothing you owe in pro sports. You do whatever you think gives you the best shot at winning (hopefully within the rules). Anything else is romantic fans building their narratives.
That s what i said, everybody agrees with me that the best rider between thomas,bernal and froome, if all of them are at 100%, it s froome, so he is their best shot and should be the leader. But, i repeat, if froome recovers. If not, bernal should be the leader. Ineos will know before the tour, who is in best shape, they will have the numbers of froome and bernal. After that, they just have to chose the leader, and the other should be domestique.
We don't know what Froome's 100% can be anymore.
That'll be a better question for Rick James.Has he announced any races he will race as preparation yet?
That s what i said, everybody agrees with me that the best rider between thomas,bernal and froome, if all of them are at 100%, it s froome, so he is their best shot and should be the leader. But, i repeat, if froome recovers. If not, bernal should be the leader. Ineos will know before the tour, who is in best shape, they will have the numbers of froome and bernal. After that, they just have to chose the leader, and the other should be domestique.
Let s see what really happens in august.i thing they already have...
Let s see what really happens in august.
You've seen this play out at the last Tour and the one prior. Bernal can accelerate away from the others. He could do it before Froome was hurt in 2018 but instead took some turns to keep him in contact. Froome chased Thomas who had Dumolin on the ropes and GT was smart and strong enough to turn the last 2km into a track pursuit; taking the stage and valuable time. Froome was effectively done then.I'm looking forward to the moment in the first big mountain stage when Sivakov or whoever the last domestique is peels off, and Bernal Thomas and Froome all look at each other and say - who pulls now?
That'll be a better question for Rick James.