Teams & Riders Cian Uijtdebroeks - From the wetlands to the top of cycling

[YavorD]

Like all of Visma. Jorgenson excluded.

Arguably Vingegaard was better, Kelderman isn't worse as well.
It's just that most of Visma suffered from crashes/illnesses (Cian) etc. It's not like they are straight forward worse.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Arguably Vingegaard was better, Kelderman isn't worse as well.
It's just that most of Visma suffered from crashes/illnesses (Cian) etc. It's not like they are straight forward worse.

Even taking those things into account, you can't help but feel they are not at the same level they were last year.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I don't get all the hype around this dude but I guess it is because he is from Belgium. I know he is young but he isn't stellar in anything

He was stellar at winning Tour de l'Avenir and he was stellar for a 20 year old GC rider in '23 in the WT. I think that might have to do more with it than him being from Belgium.

 

[Mayomaniac]

He was stellar at winning Tour de l'Avenir and he was stellar for a 20 year old GC rider in '23 in the WT. I think that might have to do more with it than him being from Belgium.

I mean, the stereotype of the typical Belgian rider already training like a pro as a junior exists for a reason. He did also win l'Avenir while already riding for a WT team, so maybe he has less margins to improve left than guys who rode on smaller teams in the u23 ranks/started late

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I mean, the stereotype of the typical Belgian rider already training like a pro as a junior exists for a reason. He did also win l'Avenir while already riding for a WT team, so maybe he has less margins to improve left than guys who rode on smaller teams in the u23 ranks/started late

Uijtdebroeks stalling is kind of the outlier when you also have Evenepoel, De Lie, Van Gils, Van Eetvelt, Van Wilder and so on in the age brackets just above him though.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I mean, the stereotype of the typical Belgian rider already training like a pro as a junior exists for a reason. He did also win l'Avenir while already riding for a WT team, so maybe he has less margins to improve left than guys who rode on smaller teams in the u23 ranks/started late

Unlike when Pogacar, Foss, Bernal or Johannessen won? I thought the stereotype you described was for Scandinavian riders particularly. Also, i think the current slew of young Belgian riders breaking through at WT pretty much makes short business of that idea.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Always drama with young belges. Kian acted like a primadonna and now put insane expectations on his own shoulders. A shame because he seem a friendly guy in interviews.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Unlike when Pogacar, Foss, Bernal or Johannessen won? I thought the stereotype you described was for Scandinavian riders particularly. Also, i think the current slew of young Belgian riders breaking through at WT pretty much makes short business of that idea.

Of those u23 riders that you mentioned Pogacar is the one who doesn't fall into that cat., since he rode for a small u23 team.
Otherwise you might have a point, certain stereotypes are probably a bit outdated. I mean, I could go on about all the Italians who fail after the u23 ranks.

 

[Netserk]

Flop of the year.

Karma.

 

[Berniece]

Flop of the year.

Karma.

🤢

 

[Netserk]

🤢

I too find Blobloblo's behaviour obnoxious. He fully deserves all the bad luck he has had this year, as he has been allowed to cheat Bora out of his contract with them.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Lmao, insanely bad, even worse than the rest of his year. Get on the front now for Wout you bum

 

[Unchained]

Flop of the year.

Karma.

Maybe someone said something mean or critical to him in the team bus or while out warming up, hair doesn't look good, your kit fit looks bad, could be anything..

 

[firefly3323]

hair doesn't look good

Maybe he needs to make a phone call to

 

[Unchained]

Maybe he needs to make a phone call to

That's a pre-Alpecin shampoo photo!! I know lots of Germans w bad hair also!! Lol

 

[Red Rick]

Sadly he gets big money for how *** he is.

 

[Berniece]

I too find Blobloblo's behaviour obnoxious. He fully deserves all the bad luck he has had this year, as he has been allowed to cheat Bora out of his contract with them.

Bora agreed with the terms so I don’t really see an issue. Bora also tried to poach Evenepoel numerous times so they got what they deserved.

 

[Netserk]

Bora agreed with the terms so I don’t really see an issue. Bora also tried to poach Evenepoel numerous times so they got what they deserved.

They only agreed after he unilaterally terminated his contract. They have not tried (afaik) to get Evenepoel to unilaterally terminate his contract.

 

[Valv.Piti]

In the end Bora should feel pretty good about the whole thing though, he's just a waste of money

 

[Red Rick]

In the end Bora should feel pretty good about the whole thing though, he's just a waste of money

Depends on if they got a buy out. His 2023 contract must have been pretty cheap

 

[Bolder]

Flop of the year.

Karma.

It's hard not to enjoy a little schadenfreude. But did Visma really misjudge him that badly?

 

[Coffeeplanter]

It's hard not to enjoy a little schadenfreude. But did Visma really misjudge him that badly?

Sans Jorgenson, Visma has been misjudging everyone on their team badly, looking at overall performance.

Jokes aside, I do not understand why Blobloblo is at this level. He is not bad, he is godawful. Back when he was a junior he visited several pro team training camps, Jumbo among them. They should have had proper insight into his # before even signing him. He didn't come into the pros overcooked with huge training hours, he didn't come into the pros dieting like a monk, and yet, three years into his pro career he seems to be regressing. Very weird progression curve.

 

[Berniece]

They only agreed after he unilaterally terminated his contract. They have not tried (afaik) to get Evenepoel to unilaterally terminate his contract.

They could’ve said no, and let UCI handle it. They didn’t and accepted the money.

And I don’t blame him for leaving. Vlasov actions at Vuelta 2023 and his TT development were subpar. If you want to achieve the highest you expect your team to also put in the efforts.

 

[Squire]

Sans Jorgenson, Visma has been misjudging everyone on their team badly, looking at overall performance.

Jokes aside, I do not understand why Blobloblo is at this level. He is not bad, he is godawful. Back when he was a junior he visited several pro team training camps, Jumbo among them. They should have had proper insight into his # before even signing him. He didn't come into the pros overcooked with huge training hours, he didn't come into the pros dieting like a monk, and yet, three years into his pro career he seems to be regressing. Insanely weird progression curve.

Clearly something has gone wrong with his training/preparation/health. He started the year in decent but not great shape, he looked to be coming into very good form in the Giro, then got ill, then fell off a cliff in the middle of Tour de Suisse. Saying that he's regressing is really jumping at conclusions.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Maybe someone said something mean or critical to him in the team bus or while out warming up, hair doesn't look good, your kit fit looks bad, could be anything..

I feel like Cian is a one trick pony. That trick being hanging on longer than most on long mountain climbs, all the while looking like he is working twice as hard as those around him. He doesn't seem so good on shorter steeper climbs and especially at the positioning and tempo leading into those climbs. One more bad climbing day and I bet he gets suddenly sick and goes home. I don't see him being a great teammate in the mountains anyway as all he can do is keep in contact (maybe). With Wout in green, Van Baarle out, and Cian being Cian Visma is already seriously short on mountain helpers.