Clasica San Sebastián 30/7 - 220.2 km

[Mr.White]

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Bunch of rookies, Valverde and Purito.

You mean bunch of morons!

 

[Kokoso]

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WTF happened to this race?

You've got older and/or read too much at this forum.

 

[Carols]

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Must feel like Christmas to be in a leading group with Valverde and Rodriguez. All you have to do is accelerate once and you know you've got it.

This...geez they just look at each other and go not me....

Anyway Good for Bauke!!!!

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Bunch of rookies, Valverde and Purito.

You mean bunch of morons!

Both, its embarrassing quite frankly. Oh well.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

What happened was the strongest guy attacked on the top of the climb and won. Not much to say.

Ofcourse you always get sandbagging in the chase unless there are teammates, or idiots like [name dutch riders]] who always chase when they are not supposed to and then lose

If Valverde/Purito wanted to win then they had to follow the attack from Mollema.

 

[TommyGun]

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Well deserved after his terrible luck in the Tour

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He did not have the level to last 3 weeks, nothing to do with luck! Now, a very unlucky rider was Contador for instance.

He crashed on St. Gervais stage while he was in the wheel of Bardet. I think this is a litle bit unlucky

Granted, but he was already dwindling in the GC before the crash.
Anyway, congrats to him, I am just a little bit disappointed that Purito could not get the win.

 

[BigMac]

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Bunch of rookies, Valverde and Purito.

You mean bunch of morons!

Completely unnecessary name calling. They only screwed themselves. Unless you bet your house on either winning, what's the big deal?

 

[DFA123]

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What happened was the strongest guy attacked on the top of the climb and won. Not much to say.

Ofcourse you always get sandbagging in the chase unless there are teammates, or idiots like [name dutch riders]] who always chase when they are not supposed to and then lose

If Valverde/Purito wanted to win then they had to follow the attack from Mollema.

Not sure that is the case. He made the best timed attack and, as usual, everyone looked around at each other to chase. Purito was the strongest on the climb, but paced himself poorly - going too early. And Gallopin looked at least as strong on the flat and the sprint, but was riding with one rider who wasn't doing any work, and another who was losing seconds everytime he went to the front.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Bunch of rookies, Valverde and Purito.

You mean bunch of morons!

Completely unnecessary name calling. They only screwed themselves. Unless you bet your house on either winning, what's the big deal?

I think the deal is that they have tried this so many times and have fcked it up so much. I guess some never learn.

 

[Red Rick]

Did anyone see Kreuziger after the finish grabbing a drink, when Contador rode up to him? Not sure what that look meant

 

[DFA123]

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Bunch of rookies, Valverde and Purito.

You mean bunch of morons!

Completely unnecessary name calling. They only screwed themselves. Unless you bet your house on either winning, what's the big deal?

I think the deal is that they have tried this so many times and have fcked it up so much. I guess some never learn.

I think Purito knew full well what he was doing. He had no chance in a sprint against Gallopin or Valverde and no chance of getting away by himself once the climb was over. So he decided the next best thing if he couldn't win himself, was to make sure Valverde didn't win.

 

[rainman]

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Well deserved after his terrible luck in the Tour

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He did not have the level to last 3 weeks, nothing to do with luck! Now, a very unlucky rider was Contador for instance.

I seem to recall a crash sent him from 2nd to about 10th, no? I'd call that hard luck. But we'll agree to differ I guess.

 

[phanatic]

Got a laugh at Purito not wanting to finish his career by pulling Valverde to a win.

Edit: what DFA said

 

[BigMac]

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Bunch of rookies, Valverde and Purito.

You mean bunch of morons!

Completely unnecessary name calling. They only screwed themselves. Unless you bet your house on either winning, what's the big deal?

I think the deal is that they have tried this so many times and have fcked it up so much. I guess some never learn.

Yes.

And again, they only screwed themselves. Literally nobody but themselves suffered for it.

 

[yaco]

OBE tweeted A.Yates finished 7th but official results list S.Yates. whichever one went far too early on the climb as did Rodriguez.

 

[Arredondo]

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Bunch of rookies, Valverde and Purito.

You mean bunch of morons!

Completely unnecessary name calling. They only screwed themselves. Unless you bet your house on either winning, what's the big deal?

I think the deal is that they have tried this so many times and have fcked it up so much. I guess some never learn.

I think Purito knew full well what he was doing. He had no chance in a sprint against Gallopin or Valverde and no chance of getting away by himself once the climb was over. So he decided the next best thing if he couldn't win himself, was to make sure Valverde didn't win.

This. And completely understandable.

Why should he ride for a Valverde win? He is by far the slowest in a flat sprint, comparing Valverde and Gallopin. Purito had one thing in mind: riding away on the final climb. He couldn't do that. After that, his race was over basically. Mollema, Gallopin and Valverde are all faster in a flat sprint.

He's not a teammate of Bala.

 

[DFA123]

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Bunch of rookies, Valverde and Purito.

You mean bunch of morons!

Completely unnecessary name calling. They only screwed themselves. Unless you bet your house on either winning, what's the big deal?

I think the deal is that they have tried this so many times and have fcked it up so much. I guess some never learn.

Yes.

And again, they only screwed themselves. Literally nobody but themselves suffered for it.

I'm not sure that is the case here; I just don't think either of them quite had it today. Purito couldn't have won from that situation so didn't try. He gave it everything on the climb, but it wasn't enough. Valverde did work, but wasn't able to put out the same power as Gallopin, so the gap kept going out when he went to the front. He couldn't even beat Gallopin in the sprint so must have had tired legs.

 

[HelloDolly]

The race needs to finish on the climb for purito to win

But the Spanish duo do not look a team for the Olympics

 

[Arredondo]

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The race needs to finish on the climb for purito to win

But the Spanish duo do not look a team for the Olympics

He still can win if the finish is after the climb. Just look at Lombardia. But he needs a gap, or needs to be in a group where he is the fastest sprinter. But not in a group containing Bala and Gallopin.

 

[DFA123]

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The race needs to finish on the climb for purito to win

But the Spanish duo do not look a team for the Olympics

Eh? Why would they look like a team? They were the two pre-race favourites on rival teams - they were hardly going to work well together; particularly when the race was basically over for one of them at the top of the climb. If they were in that same situation next week, I've no doubt that Purito would work; not that it would do much good probably - he just doesn't have much to offer in that kind of situation.

 

[HelloDolly]

They do not look a team fro the Olympics means they look lie they will be competitors not team mates

I kinda know thet are not riding on same team today ...geez

 

[hrotha]

They seriously need to change the route of this Gipuzkoako Gezia thing.

 

[May0maniac]

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Well done Mollema.

I feel bad for Gallopin, chasing with two of the biggest dickheads in the peloton.

Valverde put in a few pulls. Pretty shameful from Purito; although I guess he's so weak on the flat it wouldn't have made much difference. Not sure why he went so early on the climb; he should have waited for the last 500m like usual and tried to gap everyone there.

Purito knew that he'd loose a sprint against Valverde and Gallopin, finishing 3rd or 4th isn't exactly a huge deal. His only chance would have been an attack right after catching Mollema, but he was suffering on the flat. The biggest looser is Gallopin, he actually outsprinted Valverde, he should have helped Valverde a bit more.
That said BAUKE MOLLEMA, SCHALALALA!

 

[yaco]

Tomorrow is the Circuit De Getzo. Movistar, Lampre Merida and OBE will be riding. Final circuit has a tough climb which is probably too hard for the sprinters and not tough enough for the climbers. My choice is Ullisi.

 

[El Pistolero]

The Clasica San Sebastian just isn't all that prestigious, only 8 pages of discussion is proof of that. I even rate Strade Bianche higher and that's a 1.HC race.