I don't know why people are talking about Cobo's past history when both riders have been on teams who have folded due to doping scandals, and both teams were run by questionable figures.
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Fergoose said:Has anyone ever witnessed such a recovery?
webvan said:Froom seemed pretty constant, Cobo literally stalled/cracked and then started pedalling again like he was on a "milk run" (i.e. climbing the Angliru).
luckyboy said:I don't know why people are talking about Cobo's past history when both riders have been on teams who have folded due to doping scandals, and both teams were run by questionable figures.
luckyboy said:I remember either Harmon or Keenan saying that Cobo had ridden it before. He was born (lives?) 50km west of the climb anyway, so he probably has.
EderShamir said:At least Cobo is known to be a good climber. With some lesser results, but a good climber. Froome's performance is just nonsensical.
And obviously I prefer to see a Spanish rider winning over a Kenyan-turned-Brit.
roundabout said:hrotha wrote that Cobo didn't know the climb. I'd trust him over Harmon and Keenan.
El Pistolero said:Cobo in Pais Vasco 2007 is probably the most doped up performance of the decade. That says something.
Walkman said:Indeed it does, considering this performance (see link below) also fit within the time frame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z8qe7YWDOQ
Is there any video (youtube) of the stage that you are refering to?
Walkman said:Indeed it does, considering this performance (see link below) also fit within the time frame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z8qe7YWDOQ
Is there any video (youtube) of the stage that you are refering to?
El Pistolero said:I did mean in cycling though
Walkman said:Indeed it does, considering this performance (see link below) also fit within the time frame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z8qe7YWDOQ
Is there any video (youtube) of the stage that you are refering to?
Walkman said:Indeed it does, considering this performance (see link below) also fit within the time frame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z8qe7YWDOQ
Is there any video (youtube) of the stage that you are refering to?
roundabout said:
El Pistolero said:Yup, putting Contador on more than 2 minutes and Bernard Kohl, Cadel Evans and Ezequil Mosquera on more than 4 minutes.
spalco said:There's a fantastic quote in Mühlegg's wiki page, no idea if it's true, but I would guess it is:
Mühlegg im ZDF, auf die Frage ob er verbotene Mittel genommen habe: Ich warte die B-Probe ab [3]
Mühlegg in ZDF answering the question whether he had taken PED's: "I'll wait for the B-sample."
luckyboy said:Wow I know pretty much nothing about cross-country skiing but that performance is crazy.
luckyboy said:Kohl, Contador, Evans, Mosquera were all more than 6 minutes down in the final GC and way out of the top ten.
I don't think beating riders who aren't going all out for the win is much proof of doping.
Duartista said:Still, I'm not sure how you would quantify 'most doped' ride. Santi Perez, Armstrong, Landis, Heras, Isidro Nozal, ET Basso, the Buffalo could all put in strong claims, along with countless others.
So he didn't respond to EPO or blood doping, only CERA?El Pistolero said:He was a complete nobody before Cera entered cycling.