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Ryo Hazuki said:
no that was definitely duarte.
It was Pantano with Bouet. But I agree that Duarte was the only Colombia rider in the peloton before Pantano was caught. Perhaps he just sat up after he got dropped.
 
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hfer07 said:
Well - don't you folks find a bit of "coincidence" that Soler was crashing constantly-"regardless his awful bike handling skills"-Under Corti's overview?

Unzue mentioned many times how "weak" & "unhealthy" was Mauricio when he arrived to Movistar, so as soon he started to rebuild him- he begun to show improvement & his "accidents amount" decreased enormously in comparison to the one while in Barloworld.....

Most importantly -Was Froome "underperforming" too due to Corti's guide? what I'm implying here is A PATTERN set by Corti-every time a talented rider is under his care....

Well he did have Simoni and Cunego under his management back in the day and they did pretty good for a while.
 
Mar 26, 2009
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hfer07 said:
Well - don't you folks find a bit of "coincidence" that Soler was crashing constantly-"regardless his awful bike handling skills"-Under Corti's overview?

Unzue mentioned many times how "weak" & "unhealthy" was Mauricio when he arrived to Movistar, so as soon he started to rebuild him- he begun to show improvement & his "accidents amount" decreased enormously in comparison to the one while in Barloworld.....

Most importantly -Was Froome "underperforming" too due to Corti's guide? what I'm implying here is A PATTERN set by Corti-every time a talented rider is under his care....

I heard Bellotti a couple of times about Soler during Barloworld days and he said that the team tried to do many physicall test to him for try to find a solution at his continuos crashes; at some points the team mates were even afraid during training rides to stay too close to him in every downhill.
 
Apr 30, 2011
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Ryo Hazuki said:
unless rujano is great he should be the best on paper, but will see how form is. till now isn't good and also duarte isn't horrible itt rider, far from it
Hilarious! :D
 
May 28, 2012
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Netserk said:
Hilarious! :D

You're just ignorant :p, if Rujano shows good form in Romandie maybe we can consider that Nibali vs. Rujano bet from a few months ago again. Although you seem to have multiple bets running already...
 
Mar 31, 2010
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hfer07 said:
Well - don't you folks find a bit of "coincidence" that Soler was crashing constantly-"regardless his awful bike handling skills"-Under Corti's overview?

Unzue mentioned many times how "weak" & "unhealthy" was Mauricio when he arrived to Movistar, so as soon he started to rebuild him- he begun to show improvement & his "accidents amount" decreased enormously in comparison to the one while in Barloworld.....

Most importantly -Was Froome "underperforming" too due to Corti's guide? what I'm implying here is A PATTERN set by Corti-every time a talented rider is under his care....

he crashed just as much in movistar. the problem arose back when he was a junior rider and he had HORRIBLE crash. unfortunately he never rode under saldarriaga. look how salda made quintana for a very bad downhiller into a more then excellent one.
 
Jun 14, 2010
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Pentacycle said:
You're just ignorant :p, if Rujano shows good form in Romandie maybe we can consider that Nibali vs. Rujano bet from a few months ago again. Although you seem to have multiple bets running already...
Rujano showing good form in romandie would be finishing the race. Andy schleck was never this bad.
 
Mar 31, 2010
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The Hitch said:
Rujano showing good form in romandie would be finishing the race. Andy schleck was never this bad.

I guess you were sitting under a rock during fleche wallonne :rolleyes:
 
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Yes j was, didn't see that.

Still, 2 weeks before your big season aim, I don't think he'll be up there in the giro yet alone finish the race.
 
Mar 31, 2010
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The Hitch said:
Yes j was, didn't see that.

Still, 2 weeks before your big season aim, I don't think he'll be up there in the giro yet alone finish the race.

rujano has aid already before volta catalunya that his season goal is the vuelta, not the giro :rolleyes:
 
Jul 24, 2011
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One of the many Colombians at the start of the race, alongside riders like Sergio Henao, Rigoberto Uran or Carlos Bentacur, Movistar’s Nairo Quintana isn’t very optimistic on his chances for Liège. “I’m a bit sick. I have allergies and stomach problems. I honestly don’t feel great. But I’m here to help Alejandro (Valverde) for victory. My goal is to help him in the last climbs and make sure we have a small group of riders in the last kilometres. I really like this kind of race, it suits my riding. I hope that one day I can fight for victory”.

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Nov 1, 2012
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What about the names for the Giro for this very very dissapointing team (until the moment, thanks to Corti and the winter).

In my opinion:
Duarte-Atapuma-Duque-Pantano-Chalapud-Marentes (sure)
Ospina-Carlos Quintero (very likely)
J.P.Suárez (probable)
also options for Romero (not in very good shape, but he is a very talented rider, more than Quintero, Marentes or Ospina), Arango (he is in acceptable shape and doing some great things in Turkey) and Rodríguez (talented rider in not very good shape, as we saw in Trentino)
 
Apr 14, 2011
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pianomagic said:
What about the names for the Giro for this very very dissapointing team (until the moment, thanks to Corti and the winter).

In my opinion:
Duarte-Atapuma-Duque-Pantano-Chalapud-Marentes (sure)
Ospina-Carlos Quintero (very likely)
J.P.Suárez (probable)
also options for Romero (not in very good shape, but he is a very talented rider, more than Quintero, Marentes or Ospina), Arango (he is in acceptable shape and doing some great things in Turkey) and Rodríguez (talented rider in not very good shape, as we saw in Trentino)
Agree with your first 8, but I think they might take Avila to help out Duque in the sprints.
 
Nov 1, 2012
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Duartista said:
Agree with your first 8, but I think they might take Avila to help out Duque in the sprints.

I think Ávila could be useful in flat stages but... in this Giro there are only 3-4? flat stages, so I think it could be better to have an all-rounder in the team.
 
Mar 31, 2010
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I'm 99% sure will be this:

duarte
atapuma
pantano
marentes
suarez
ospina
carlos quintero
duque
chalapud

those are also the 9 best ones in least worst shape and with most talent mostly. definitely not track guys. corti isn't happy about them, although corit should just shut up and realize it's his own fault the team is doing so horrible
 
Nov 1, 2012
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Well, finally it seems no Marentes, no Ospina, and the two pistards in: Arango and Ávila. I think one of the pistards could be well, but the two in a very mountainous Giro it's not the best (well, Arango is now an all-rounder and could be also very useful in hilly stages, and Ávila exclusively for the flat stages)
 
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pianomagic said:
Well, finally it seems no Marentes, no Ospina, and the two pistards in: Arango and Ávila. I think one of the pistards could be well, but the two in a very mountainous Giro it's not the best (well, Arango is now an all-rounder and could be also very useful in hilly stages, and Ávila exclusively for the flat stages)

avila is actually a climber but under corti everyone sucks

and no rujano focusses on vuelta espana
 
Nov 1, 2012
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Ryo Hazuki said:
no suarez. I think they are very unhappy about him, all other names make more sense

It's OK, this list is more logical, with Ávila instead of Suárez. Anyway, I don't know what's happening with Suárez... IN the beginning, he was one of the leaders of the team, but in this 2 years he was horrible in every competition... only his 15th place in this year's Vuelta a Castilla-León is a "not very bad" result, but very far from the expected...
 
Mar 31, 2010
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after first week I"m positively surprised at level of colombians. especially how they are improving. duarte is not in topshape at all, but yesterday for first time in over a year I saw him in the front all the time like he always rides when he feels good. also he did a very fast ascent of the climb in yesterdays itt. atapuma is in very good shape I think. he rode maybe one of the best itt's in his life. and despite the rain and hills he always hangs in there, chalapud, duque and pantnao are in good shape too as can be expected. looking forward to tuesday adn final week in general.
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
after first week I"m positively surprised at level of colombians. especially how they are improving. duarte is not in topshape at all, but yesterday for first time in over a year I saw him in the front all the time like he always rides when he feels good. also he did a very fast ascent of the climb in yesterdays itt. atapuma is in very good shape I think. he rode maybe one of the best itt's in his life. and despite the rain and hills he always hangs in there, chalapud, duque and pantnao are in good shape too as can be expected. looking forward to tuesday adn final week in general.

Yea I also mentinoed in yesterdays stage thread that I fineally saw a good Duarte for the first time this year. I really hope he can and will show himself the next 2 weeks.
 
May 28, 2012
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Very true. Any result in the first week was unexpected, but Pantano did well so far getting 3rd and 6th.

Now it's up to Duarte and Atapuma, who were both very good yesterday, to finally get a win. I don't think the others can really deliver in the high mountains though.
 

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