Contador and Spanish cycling

[airstream]

It should have been done in an elementary way. Order the guy to lay out his hematocrit level after every stages - and he won't hit even top-10. I can't know how it's gonna end, but I know Contador. It won't end peacefully: either ban and jail or hellish collapse out of the top 10-15.

Well lets see him champion weekly blood data & power figures, lets see his medical regimen...

Something like that:
- indulging with Edgar a bit;
- calling courier Marti and training with no bike, but with hematocrit meter;
- donating bb's;
- sleeping and having a rest 'cos there's no power to ride after blood infusion;
- a little bit of real training;
- an interview where he says that he prepared like never before. YEAH! He never was so careful with bb's before!

 

[airstream]

Well lets see him champion weekly blood data & power figures, lets see his medical regimen...

Something like that:
- indulging with Edgar a bit;
- calling courier Marti and training with no bike, but with hematocrit meter;
- donating bb's;
- sleeping and having a rest 'cos there's no power to ride after blood infusion;
- a little bit of real training;
- an interview where he says that he prepared like never before. YEAH! He never was so careful with bb's before!

 

[arjanh]

Well, Freire has spoken. Good to see he's not on the dark side like his other compatriots.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...g-says-riders-are-ultimately-responsible.aspx

I always liked him. I rooted so hard for him during the last AGR, but alas...

He'll be missed, hope he returns to cycling pretty quick.

 

[orangerider]

Well, Freire has spoken. Good to see he's not on the dark side like his other compatriots.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...g-says-riders-are-ultimately-responsible.aspx

Excellent thoughts from Oscar. More respect to him.

 

[airstream]

Another act of 'neutral' commentaries. Damn, he is so squalid.

Alberto Contador has said he believes it is right that Lance Armstrong should be stripped of his Tour de France titles.

I think these world have already conveyed to Lance. It's the end.

 

[No_Balls]

Very good comments from Contador this time. In fact a lot better comments here then from the likes of Andy Schleck and a hell of lot other riders not mentioned or ignored:

“If he has been judged and the verdict was guilty, then I think it stands to reason that he should lose them.”

As for the wisdom of leaving the Tour winnerless from 1999 to 2005, Contador said, “it’s complicated to give an answer, but given cycling’s current predicament, and it’s obvious that we are going through a bad moment, then perhaps there was no other solution.”

Good. Good.

Armstrong was also an example for Contador after the Spaniard suffered a stroke in May 2004, “because he had, had cancer. Now he’s been judged and banned in a way which sets an example [of what can happen] for all of this, but with this [Armstrong’s] suspension we don’t solve all of cycling’s problems.

Very true and reasonable comments here. As Lemond said: The problem is not drugs but corruption.

Contador told MARCA he believed that the current generation of riders were paying for errors committed by those in the past, but that “thank goodness we are advancing fast in the fight against doping. In my opinion, we need an agreement between all parties - the UCI, organisers, teams and riders - to make decisions and see these things don’t happen again. We all need to move in the right direction to eradicate this stain [of doping] and regain credibility.

I would of course see an external international party not directly involved in cycling making the decisions (or at least involved) but you cant ask for everything.

Contador also says that there has been an important change in his generation, that they have understood that professional racing is possible without what he calls “external help.” - ie, doping. “However, there’s a long road ahead.”

Here he is honest about the influence of doping and that it will take a long time before it will be solved (Omertá) but he adresses the issue as being huge. A lot more better then the "look at the future"-thing that has been vomited around by Contador himself, but first and foremost by the others.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/con...y-then-it-stands-to-reason-he-loses-his-tours

I am pleased he has adjusted himself til a more reasonable (and progressive) standpoint.

 

[airstream]

pfff. this egocentric maniac has never been honest and he doesn't know what honesty is.

'If he has been judged and the verdict was guilty, then I think it stands to reason that he should lose them. But if I've been judged and the verdict was guilty then I think it doesn't stand to reason that I lose my titles'

****ingly consecutive. What a moron.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Nice comments from Alberto well done my boy

 

[airstream]

Everyone who thinks this way, you are misguided people. I feel sorry for you. But to root for notorious lying criminal to the bitter end is a karma that will never let you go.

 

[LaFlorecita]

This message is hidden because airstream is on your ignore list.

Aah.....

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Nice comments from Alberto well done my boy

Plus one from me

 

[boladelmundo]

To be honest, I have never read in any interview where Bertie attacking anyone in the peloton. So, for him to maintain his neutral voice in this occasion, I think it is understandable. Having said that, it is too imposible to think that he's 100% clean though, considering people surrounding him were dopers in his teams. How could it be possible that he was the only angel in the team?

 

[No_Balls]

No one has attacked anyone in the peloton (except Marcel Kittel) because it can be an unforgiving place if the Omertá is challenged. Just ask Willy Voet about it. Mostly they have looked at each other and wondering whats happening now and/or what they should say.

It is great that one of the current patrons (however doped he might be or have been) now speaking (or at least open himself up) about a future without doping. Credit where credit is due.

 

[noddy69]

Contador back tracking due to public opinion and sponsors pressure is my guess.

Valverde on the other hand !

 

[jyhjyh]

Everyone who thinks this way, you are misguided people. I feel sorry for you. But to root for notorious lying criminal to the bitter end is a karma that will never let you go.

So much hate - I wonder what is in the air in Minsk

 

[hfer07]

Well spoken Freire. Admits that Spain has a problem with a lot of doping docs and a lot of foreigners residing there, also admits that it's impossible to say cycling is clean, but mentions it's better now.

+1000

& this:

"The problem with cycling is that many people aren't made to be cyclists and it's better that they go elsewhere rather than fill it with dirt.

wise words indeed

 

[airstream]

So much hate - I wonder what is in the air in Minsk

There is the air of prudence and good sense in Minsk. Thank you. Objectively speaking there's no base using which it would be possible to justify Contador. No Balls tries to build some ephemeral scales of hypocrisy, trying to exponate Contador as the most honest guy in all this commotion. It's absolute nonesense; truly desperate attempt to grasp at straws of faith in case of the person when a word 'faith' is completely inapplicable.

 

[gatete]

pfff. this egocentric maniac has never been honest and he doesn't know what honesty is.

'If he has been judged and the verdict was guilty, then I think it stands to reason that he should lose them. But if I've been judged and the verdict was guilty then I think it doesn't stand to reason that I lose my titles'

****ingly consecutive. What a moron.

Now I understand why you root for Andy. If you're calling AC egocentric, either I don't understand what the word means or your standards are very low and that pretty much matches Andy's demeanor and of course results.

 

[del1962]

Now I understand why you root for Andy. If you're calling AC egocentric, either I don't understand what the word means or your standards are very low and that pretty much matches Andy's demeanor and of course results.

At least we can give Andy the benefit of the doubt (though Franks cheating kind of is a stain), but we know that Contador is a cheat.

 

[airstream]

Now I understand why you root for Andy. If you're calling AC egocentric, either I don't understand what the word means or your standards are very low and that pretty much matches Andy's demeanor and of course results.

Firstly, I'm all for clean cycling cos to make one ride clean is the only way to put cycling on fair rails and to know who the strongest really is, not who reacts on doping better than others and has the best doctors, couriers and suppliers. If current clean-up overruns Andy and he will have to quit because of doping allegations, I will never complain about injustice.

Contador's rabid ego is that he considers some things normal for himself and not normal for others. Actually, he supports doping. He is a baim of this vicious doping system and its protégé By saying this, he implies his doping is fair unlike Lance's one. No one lied so inspingly about doping so much as he does. Even Lance - when cloud of suspicion soared everywhere - preferred to evade this problem. Contador simply continues to harp his perennial nonsense that he allegedly never doped. It is outrageous.

 

[LaFlorecita]

At least we can give Andy the benefit of the doubt (though Franks cheating kind of is a stain), but we know that Contador is a cheat.

No. It's highly probable he's a cheat but we can't know for sure

 

[Contadoraus Schlecks]

Firstly, I'm all for clean cycling cos to make one ride clean is the only way to put cycling on fair rails and to know who the strongest really is, not who reacts on doping better than others and has the best doctors, couriers and suppliers. If current clean-up overruns Andy and he will have to quit because of doping allegations, I will never complain about injustice.

Contador's rabid ego is that he considers some things normal for himself and not normal for others. Actually, he supports doping. He is a baim of this vicious system and its protégé By saying this, he implies his doping is fair unlike Lance's one. No one lied so inspingly about doping so much as he does. Even Lance - when cloud of suspicion soared everywhere - preferred to evade this problem. Contador simply continues to harp his perennial nonsense that he allegedly never doped. It is outrageous.

Please tell me Contador used that actual phrase

 

[LaFlorecita]

Please tell me Contador used that actual phrase

Of course he didn't, airstream's just making **** up as usual

 

[ebandit]

truth

one point i read...alberto 'if lance guilty he deserves to lose tdf wins'

yet alberto sticks to stating that he won 7 tours.............hello alberto
you were found guilty so deserve to lose 2 wins

but of course where is the truth with what alberto says..........after irking observers with his previous statement he has changed his tune to keep reporters happier

mr 50%...............never doped!

 

[gatete]

Firstly, I'm all for clean cycling cos to make one ride clean is the only way to put cycling on fair rails and to know who the strongest really is, not who reacts on doping better than others and has the best doctors, couriers and suppliers. If current clean-up overruns Andy and he will have to quit because of doping allegations, I will never complain about injustice.

Contador's rabid ego is that he considers some things normal for himself and not normal for others. Actually, he supports doping. He is a baim of this vicious doping system and its protégé By saying this, he implies his doping is fair unlike Lance's one. No one lied so inspingly about doping so much as he does. Even Lance - when cloud of suspicion soared everywhere - preferred to evade this problem. Contador simply continues to harp his perennial nonsense that he allegedly never doped. It is outrageous.

That tells me that you think Andy is 100% clean. Ok I will respect your opinion, my cynical opinion towards the peloton now switched from unsure, to just suspect of everyone, Contador? sure he's a doper, Andy? of course he's a doper. The Frank association, the unbelievable improvement in Tour form, the way he sucks at every other race, Lance any one? the only reason why I think Andy is not successful as Lance is because Lance had the ump of winning, where as Andy just is happy with excuses, actually I think this is what I call a nonsense doping.