Contador & Armstrong will never be caught for EPO or blood boosting and here's why!!

[Rise Of The Dead]

It comes down to this.

If Lance did take EPO in '99, he can't win the Tour. Its one area. You can't be great in one area, you need to be great in every area.

 

[Mellow Velo]

He took EPO in 1999 and the French found it, as soon as a test became available.
We also know he used cortisone, in 1999, because that was found during the race. Cue the time travelling TUE.

Only a complete idiot would think that was the sum of his medicine chest.

Now, go away, or it's the ignore button for you.......yet again.

 

[Rise Of The Dead]

Riis from the get go is 1up on a clean Ullrich at the '97 Tour. He has unfairly increased his oxygen capability & VO2 max through the use of EPO, but places 30 mins down on GC overall on Ullrich in Paris.

With regards to Riis going "1up", hes stupid & blatent enough to believe that in enhancing just one aspect of cycling performance, he will see success. But hes come up against someone that stood back & looked at all aspects of cycling performance & the result was there for all to see.

 

[Rise Of The Dead]

He took EPO in 1999 and the French found it, as soon as a test became available. We also know he used cortisone, in 1999, because that was found during the race.

"(If that is the case)", he can't win the Tour. Success isn't guaranteed by honkers so naive to believe that enhancing just one aspect of performance results in Tour success.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Father of EPO, Dr Conconi's Gweiss Ballan boys.
On January 14, 1995 Evgeni Berzin recorded a level of 41.7% while on May 24, 1995 he recorded 53%. On January 14, 1995 Ivan Gotti recorded a level of 40.7% while on August 9, 1995 he recorded 57%. As discussed previously Bjarne Riis recorded a hematocrit level of 41.1% on January 14, 1995 while on July 10, 1995 he recorded 56.3%.

All 3 won Grand Tours, you tit.

 

[Rise Of The Dead]

Father of EPO, Dr Conconi's Gweiss Ballan boys.
On January 14, 1995 Evgeni Berzin recorded a level of 41.7% while on May 24, 1995 he recorded 53%. On January 14, 1995 Ivan Gotti recorded a level of 40.7% while on August 9, 1995 he recorded 57%. As discussed previously Bjarne Riis recorded a hematocrit level of 41.1% on January 14, 1995 while on July 10, 1995 he recorded 56.3%.

All 3 won Grand Tours, you tit.

You know Ullrich never raced with more than a 42% hematocrit & I read he got as low as 39% for long periods. Wait a minute, hows does Riis figure 26' mins, 34 secs" down on GC overall on a clean Ullrich in Paris.

Surely the advantage must be with Riis & the highest hematocrit???...

 

[Slayer]

Father of EPO, Dr Conconi's Gweiss Ballan boys.
On January 14, 1995 Evgeni Berzin recorded a level of 41.7% while on May 24, 1995 he recorded 53%. On January 14, 1995 Ivan Gotti recorded a level of 40.7% while on August 9, 1995 he recorded 57%. As discussed previously Bjarne Riis recorded a hematocrit level of 41.1% on January 14, 1995 while on July 10, 1995 he recorded 56.3%.

All 3 won Grand Tours, you tit.

But how many others in the peloton had hematocrits that high who did not win Grand Tours?

 

[Slayer]

Anyway, Armstrong has a new secret weapon now that cannot be detected in a blood test. Until the UCI bring in a feces test he will be unstoppable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwQ45tzoGRI

 

[Rise Of The Dead]

But how many others in the peloton had hematocrits that high who did not win Grand Tours?

Maybe David Millar might know...

 

[Rise Of The Dead]

Anyway, Armstrong has a new secret weapon now that cannot be detected in a blood test. Until the UCI bring in a feces test he will be unstoppable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwQ45tzoGRI

Heres another weapon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDawlrIeaVM

 

[Slayer]

Heres another weapon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDawlrIeaVM

Um, that one is a bit gay.

 

[Rise Of The Dead]

Um, that one is a bit gay.

I enjoyed it. Sure made me a faster rider & I will go on record to say it made me faster than EPO ever did... Like I said, lets start looking at the bigger picture.

 

[Slayer]

I enjoyed it. Sure made me a faster rider & I will go on record to say it made me faster than EPO ever did... Like I said, lets start looking at the bigger picture.

Yeah it's a good work out. I keep meaning to do some strength training for the legs. Just a bit gay to watch LA doing it.

 

[Skip Madness]

"(If that is the case)", he can't win the Tour. Success isn't guaranteed by honkers so naive to believe that enhancing just one aspect of performance results in Tour success.

I doubt there are many people who believe that on here (a few, but not many). Of course doping isn't the only thing you can do to enhance your performance, of course doping alone won't win you a grand tour without having to bother with the strictest of training regimes and all the rest. The point is that for any rider who already does everything else right, doping still produces clear, substantial and oft-demonstrated improvements.

But how many others in the peloton had hematocrits that high who did not win Grand Tours?

We don't know. What we do know is that for riders who are already well-disposed to riding for general classification, and who put the effort in with the training and lifestyle, doping on top of that will produce better results than not doping.

Um, that one is a bit gay.

[...]

Yeah it's a good work out. I keep meaning to do some strength training for the legs. Just a bit gay to watch LA doing it.

lol gays

 

[Rise Of The Dead]

How does Jan Ullrich produce the most powerful climb in history up the Arcalis @ 475 watts. EPO?. No. Elevated hematocrit?. No. HGH?. No. Doping?. No. Hunger to dedicate his life to cycling & look at every aspect of improving cycling performance?. YES.

 

[pmcg76]

How does Jan Ullrich produce the most powerful climb in history up the Arcalis @ 475 watts. EPO?. No. Elevated hematocrit?. No. HGH?. No. Doping?. No. Hunger to dedicate his life to cycling & look at every aspect of improving cycling performance?. YES.

Plus EPO of course.

Lets make two Jan Ullrichs, one with EPO, the other without EPO. The one on EPO would produce the results as above, the other Jan without EPO might be lucky to be top 10/20 on the same stage. If this is what you are trying to say, then how can EPO not be a factor and what evidence is there that Ullrich was clean in 97. You need some definitve proof that Jan operated at 42 level in 97. And why did Jan only finish 2nd to Riis in 96.

 

[Mellow Velo]

How does Jan Ullrich produce the most powerful climb in history up the Arcalis @ 475 watts. EPO?. No. Elevated hematocrit?. No. HGH?. No. Doping?. No. Hunger to dedicate his life to cycling & look at every aspect of improving cycling performance?. YES.

His bratwurst was full of steroids?
Really.
This is the same Jan Ullrich who you proclaim didn't use EPO, but had his career ended for his association with a blood doping clinic.

Still, your German poster boy for clean winners is about as credible as your Texan one.
Texas: Where even the chickens get fed roids.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/03/texas-police-cockfight-raid-arrests

 

[Rise Of The Dead]

Plus EPO of course.

Lets make two Jan Ullrichs, one with EPO, the other without EPO. The one on EPO would produce the results as above, the other Jan without EPO might be lucky to be top 10/20 on the same stage.

Lets make two Jan Ullrichs???...

Ermmmmm... I will try & find out if that is illegible.

Hows does Riis finish 26' mins, 34 secs" down on GC overall on a clean Ullrich in the '97 Tour.

Why can't Riis, Millar etc take advantage of there elevated hematocrit levels & go on to see success throughout there entire careers???... Recorded; Riis 56.3% Vs Ullrich 42%???...

Bad year at the office...

 

[MrContador]

Lets make two Jan Ullrichs???...
Hows does Riis finish 26' mins, 34 secs" down on GC overall on a clean Ullrich in the '97 Tour.

That's easy; Ullrich wasn't riding clean and Riis was riding for Ullrich to win.

Why can't Riis, Millar etc take advantage of there elevated hematocrit levels & go on to see success throughout there entire careers???... Recorded; Riis 56.3% Vs Ullrich 42%???...

Because all their contenders doped too. Seriously, how can you say Ullrich was riding clean when he got busted in Operacion Puerto?

 

[pmcg76]

Lets make two Jan Ullrichs???...

Ermmmmm... I will try & find out if that is illegible.

Hows does Riis finish 26' mins, 34 secs" down on GC overall on a clean Ullrich in the '97 Tour.

Why can't Riis, Millar etc take advantage of there elevated hematocrit levels & go on to see success throughout there entire careers???... Recorded; Riis 56.3% Vs Ullrich 42%???...

Bad year at the office...

Now you are disproving yourself, Riis might have been at 56% in 96 when he won but the limit in 97 was 50% so to say he was at 56% is impossible otherwise he would have been r'ested' for 2 weeks to let his level return to below 50%.

So could it be that Ullrich figure is also made up randomly by you, I think the 42% figure was quoted by Kevin Livingston who rode for Telekom in 02, five years later. Who knows what Ullrich was at in 97. Stop taking unrelated items and trying to pass them of as facts. You are going to have really know your stuff if you want to fool people on here.

 

[Rise Of The Dead]

That's easy; Ullrich wasn't riding clean.

That is why Ullrich was found guilty of doping EPO with some of lowest hematocrit levels on record when he went onto win in '97??.

 

[filipo]

That is why Ullrich was found guilty of doping EPO with some of lowest hematocrit levels on record when he went onto win in '97??.

Which records? WHo recorded them? Where did you get this number? Are you really this stupid? Armstrong recorded what, a 39? earlier this year?

 

[Ferminal]

That is why Ullrich was found guilty of doping EPO with some of lowest hematocrit levels on record when he went onto win in '97??.

If Ullrich won the 1997 Tour de France clean, why did he start blood doping in future years?

Clearly he was at his best clean and blood doping only hampered his performance, yet he pursued it, what a moron.

 

[Race Radio]

That is why Ullrich was found guilty of doping EPO with some of lowest hematocrit levels on record when he went onto win in '97??.

Do you have a link to support Jan being found guilty? Do you have a link to support your claim of "Lowest hematocrit level"?

Or are these claims like most of your posts, 100% invented?

 

[maltiv]

Obvious troll is obvious.