Contador blasts LA

[pmcg76]

So far the only Astana people to complain about AC have been Lance and Bruyneel, Levi, Horner all stooges of Lance.

We havent heard a thing from Kloeden, Murayev, Rast, Paulinho,Popovych bet they were more than happy to see AC win. They would have been a lot worse of financially if he hadnt won. I think it is irrelevant to them whether Lance or Kloeden were third. As I pointed out before, only one of them could have been third as A.Schlcek locked 2nd place in the Alps.

 

[BYOP88]

1. He dropped his teammate, made some stupid deal with the Schlecks, then gave the stage win away to a rival team and faked a lunge at the end to sell it.. or

2. He dropped his teammate, was isolated by the Schlecks and was so gassed at the end that he couldn't win the stage.

1.Well lets be honest Kloden was suffering on that climb and would've gone if one of the Schlecks attacked, it would've been seen as bad form if Contador went for the win on that stage given the fact he did hardly any work.

2.If the Schleck boys had anything left wouldn't they have attacked, counter attacked, attacked, counter attacked etc etc until one of them got away?

 

[Publicus]

You have the energy and free time for this?

Apparently you do too!

But thanks for confirming that it was just a comment about Lance. I would be surprised if he would disparage his other teammates after apologizing to each of them for any perceived slight after Stage 17.

 

[fulcrum]

True.

there is no "i" in "team"

there is no "us" either.

 

[Gamhugo]

This is all about the 2010 tour. AC was the best this year no doubt, was it hard for him in the team sure it was. Both wanted to win, But LA would have never dropped Kloden with that attack. LA would have loved seeing 1,2,3 for Astana even if he was not #1.

LA is no dummy, he needs motivation and AC is just giving it to him.

And the people who say it does not help cancer!!! be real read the news is all about LA and therefore LIVESTRONG.


I CAN'T wait for the next tour will be great seeing AC with his team, the shleck's getting stronger and LA MOTIVATED.

 

[fulcrum]

By Lance's and Bruyneel's reaction, it looks like Alberto hit where it hurt. Apparently the two amigos don't want their little fairy tale to be spoiled by the shit they pulled during the TdF becoming public.

Keep it coming AC. We wanna know

 

[scribe]

Apparently you do too!

But thanks for confirming that it was just a comment about Lance. I would be surprised if he would disparage his other teammates after apologizing to each of them for any perceived slight after Stage 17.

I am interested in discussing the race and shtuff around it, not trying to box someone in over syntax.

 

[Publicus]

This is all about the 2010 tour. AC was the best this year no doubt, was it hard for him in the team sure it was. Both wanted to win, But LA would have never dropped Kloden with that attack. LA would have loved seeing 1,2,3 for Astana even if he was not #1.

LA is no dummy, he needs motivation and AC is just giving it to him.

And the people who say it does not help cancer!!! be real read the news is all about LA and therefore LIVESTRONG.


I CAN'T wait for the next tour will be great seeing AC with his team, the shleck's getting stronger and LA MOTIVATED.

According to Lance he was motivated this year, that he was at the tour to win. What he's trying to do is change the narrative to make it that Contador is a bad teammate (he's not). No comments about the team. Just a comment about Lance. How that is disparaging of the team is beyond me--unless Lance is the team.

 

[Carboncrank]

I believe it was the famous "Look" stage. He was riding with Azevedo and Ullrich and some of the other "favorites". He accelerated and rode away. He didn't give two sh!ts about Azevedo or his time loss. Why? Because he was the overall contender, not Azevedo. I'm not even going to get into the fact that Contador SPOKE to Kloden before he put in the move and Kloden was ok with it. I'm willing to bet money Lance NEVER did such a thing and would have laughed if someone suggested otherwise.

This whole Contador attacked his team mates commentary is just getting too stupid for words.

I'll bet you know, only going when you need to go is a big part of winning major tours. In cases that don't involve Lance my bet is that you say that too.

In the stage you talk about with Lance and the look, he was not dropping a teammate with a podium chance.

 

[BroDeal]

This is all about the 2010 tour. AC was the best this year no doubt, was it hard for him in the team sure it was. Both wanted to win, But LA would have never dropped Kloden with that attack. LA would have loved seeing 1,2,3 for Astana even if he was not #1.

LA is no dummy, he needs motivation and AC is just giving it to him.

And the people who say it does not help cancer!!! be real read the news is all about LA and therefore LIVESTRONG.

I CAN'T wait for the next tour will be great seeing AC with his team, the shleck's getting stronger and LA MOTIVATED.

Maybe they can have a special geezer jersey for thirty-nine year olds. They could get Depends to sponsor it.

 

[fulcrum]

LA is no dummy, he needs motivation and AC is just giving it to him.

The motivation Lance needs comes from Dr. Ferrari. Not AC.

 

[Publicus]

I am interested in discussing the race and shtuff around it, not trying to box someone in over syntax.

That's surprising. I've noticed you mainly enjoy making snide comments, but not really engaging in a discussion.

So if I've misread you, I apologize.

 

[danyela]

The best thing about all of this is that Lance thought he was doing Astana a favour by riding for them for free...

 

[usedtobefast]

LOL. If 18 of the 20 teams are sponsored by non-US based companies, one might infer that the rest of world contributes more to the support of pro-cycling than the US.

Cycling is a non-event to the US public. When LA participates you go from a non-event to well, still a non-event. It's back page news at most. It follows that the US contribution to cycling is relatively minor. Pro cycling exists because of Europe's support for it.

Here's the TV numbers for the VS TDF.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/07/17/with-lance-armstrong-back-tour-de-france-ratings-jump/22990

so 480,000 per day.

In contrast, the Daytona 500 pulled in 17 million viewers.

I love cycling, but the US doesn't support it.

we make some damn good bikes though.

 

[BYOP88]

In the stage you talk about with Lance and the look, he was not dropping a teammate with a podium chance.

Yeah because they were all working for the leader of the team. If you'd said to Lance and the Hog at the start of any Tour from 99-05, you can have a podium sweep or another guy on it too they'd say no cos it will take away attention from the main goal winning, anyway as Lance said 2nd place is 1st loser.

 

[Publicus]

I'll bet you know, only going when you need to go is a big part of winning major tours. In cases that don't involve Lance my bet is that you say that too.

In the stage you talk about with Lance and the look, he was not dropping a teammate with a podium chance.

I bet getting time on rivals when you can is ALWAYS a part of winning tours. I'll ALWAYS say that. If the move succeeds, no one is talking about Kloden going out the back. They are just talking about how amazing the move was and how dominating Contador was. Your objections are just predicated on the outcome, one that obviously wasn't foreseeable by either Kloden (who agreed with the decision) or Contador.

Not every attack is the grand slam, but you'll never hit the grand slam unless you swing.

 

[jamfra67]

Yep, it blew up they finished 1st, 3rd and 6th and 1st in Team. Wow, I am sure there are a lot of sponsors for say Garmin, Columbia, S Bank, S Lotto that would be just ****ed. Horrible horrible situation. What a cluster Puck. Dang that Brunyeel. Can't do anything right can he. Again there was no division that we have heard about on the "TEAM" except for Alberto going his own way of the entire team and his DS orders. That is the only splitting fo the team that took place.

Stop running away from the pertinent point that he had a preference for Lance to be in the number one sport. Thats the main point of the tension between the two. Do you want to deny he betrayed Contador in favour of lance? Conti simply took matters in his own hands and jammed Bruyneels Gran plan. They wanted the placings in reverse order and it backfired its that simple. Stop spewing all that team crap because if it was Lance in that situation you would be singing a ddifferent tune. There is a New World Order led my AC. lol

 

[pmcg76]

Ever been there? Everyone rides bicycles in Belgium. Between that and Holland, I thought I had entered cycling paradise.

No surprise the sport is popular there.

Yeah, lived there for a year last year, absolutely loved all the access to cycling, the routes, riders, newspaper & TV coverage. The Tour was on five channels live on my TV. I was making a point to somebody claiming how important Lance and as a result US sponsors were to pro cycling. Since I started pointing out most of the US sponsors were in the sport before Lance hit it big, he has stopped responding to me. Just for the record I am Irish but have also lived in the US, Australia, UK, Spain so I like to think I have an international prespective on cycling.

 

[Publicus]

Yeah because they were all working for the leader of the team. If you'd said to Lance and the Hog at the start of any Tour from 99-05, you can have a podium sweep or another guy on it too they'd say no cos it will take away attention from the main goal winning, anyway as Lance said 2nd place is 1st loser.

That guy wouldn't have been on the team. You were either a cog in the wheel or you were riding for Team Mobile.

 

[richwagmn]

we make some damn good bikes though.

Yes we do! (Well, the companies do since most are made elsewhere).

 

[mikeNphilly]

"One other thing, I thought all of this "comeback" was about "cancer." How in the world has any of this benefited "cancer?" "...by FFT


To answer your question in one part...
While I was racing in the tour our movement did just that: We needed to add 30,000 names to the World Cancer Declaration in order to secure a matching donation to fight cancer – and we blew that target away, reaching 85,000 signatures in just a few days!


that helped I'm sure..

 

[Gamhugo]

Yes he was motivated this year, however 3 years of the saddle and the crash did not help.

AC needed to speak about the team, but you nailed it ,LA was the team and AC got his feelings hurt. Did you hear Popo ***** about LA...yeah, yeah I know he needs a job right? BS

For LA, if you are in his team he takes care of you. If you cross him he will crush you to protect his own.

 

[BroDeal]

By Lance's and Bruyneel's reaction, it looks like Alberto hit where it hurt. Apparently the two amigos don't want their little fairy tale to be spoiled by the shit they pulled during the TdF becoming public.

Keep it coming AC. We wanna know

+1

Every tidbit that leaks out shows more and more how petty Armstrong is. It also shows for the hypocrites Armstrong and Bruyneel that they are. They criticized Contador for breaking a code of honor that they largely defined in such a way to put Contador in the wrong, but at the same time they were stabbing him in the back at every opportunity, even getting their boot licking teammates who were not racing the Tour to stick their knives in.

 

[powerste]

I'll bet you know, only going when you need to go is a big part of winning major tours.

True, and AC's decision to take a big risk for a dubious payoff says a lot about both his:
-relative immaturity/stupidity/whatever-you-want-to-call-it
AND
-justified confidence in his raw talent
The disconnect between the two will be the story of next July.

In the stage you talk about with Lance and the look, he was not dropping a teammate with a podium chance.

No teammate of Lance's was ever expected to have a podium chance. All this talk about the wildly successful "Bruyneel/Armstrong Plan" and AC's disdain for it is a complete red herring. Slow-down-so-your-mates-can-podium has never been part of that plan. But all of a sudden, in 2009, AC is expected to adopt the new and improved you're-not-quite-in-charge-so-ride-more-easily-for-your-teammates'-chances Bruyneel Plan?

 

[Gamhugo]

Call him a dopper all you want. I guess Cancellara is clean, right? and so are the Sherck brothers?

Please name one that you think is clean since the rest are sooo tainted.