Contador positive!!!!!

[The Hitch]

How on earth he stayed with DOPED Contador on Tourmalet?

Menchov beat a doped Diluca and a doped Pellizoti in the giro. THats why i always thought he was on something.

 

[DenisMenchov]

Contador just released a press statement with complete explanation

NO more that stupid gun . El pistolero is el cheatero

 

[The Hitch]

Contador just released a press statement with complete explanation

Nicely done.

Is the original lance body - Steve jobs?

 

[DenisMenchov]

Menchov beat a doped Diluca and a doped Pellizoti in the giro. THats why i always thought he was on something.

NO- he was caught on Tour.

And yes he has beaten Di Luca in ITTs, but not on Blockhaus, Vesuvius... and you are comparing DI Luca and Contador :S

 

[aahmadhu]

Hmmm, didn't think about that. Is that a rule or a guideline?

if i remember correctly, ASO didn't invite astana to the next tdf after vino was busted, fuji also wasn't invited the year after when ricco n piepoli were busted.

correct me if i'm wrong.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

Contador just released a press statement with complete explanation

LOL!!!
But seriously, I'm starting to think a 2 year ban is not enough deterrent. How about 5 years? (but that's been discussed before in the forums)

 

[Race Radio]

No fishing, No conspiracy theories, no qualms with any specific posts, just remember these threads as being very supportive of AC and never suspecting him of any wrongdoing. Just speaking in generalities. I'm actually surprised with how people have responded.

You need to stop inventing things because they just make you look foolish. I have seen few, if any, posters here that have said that AC is/was clean.

 

[DenisMenchov]

Can`t wait for the press conference. Hope Landis will be there

 

[Joe in LA]

wow- he might dodge the bullet...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-contador-positive-requires-further-scientific-investigation

Am I reading this correctly that UCI thinks further inquiry is needed becuase the lab was able to detect the substance as a lower concentration than the lab is required to be able to detect? So the lab is too good at what it does?

 

[Parrot23]

UCI

“The concentration found by the laboratory was estimated at 50 picograms (or 0,000 000 000 05 grams per ml) which is 400 time less than what the antidoping laboratories accredited by WADA must be able to detect.”

This is trivial. Certainly wouldn't have led to Tour victory. Anyone who thinks so needs to have their head examined.

It's not EPO or autologous blood transfusions, the stuff that can win Tours among closely matched riders. That said, I've never thought Bertie was clean. He's just never been caught for the big stuff that makes the difference. He was prob. transfusing like other top riders at the Tour. Why do they all need a personal doctor, etc.? To give them an aspirin, tuck them into bed, etc.? LOL

Clenbuterol is chicken feed taken by a semi-asthmatic, allergy prone rider.

 

[The Hitch]

But we do.


15% is a bit high? Evans has an amazing ability to suffer. And even with that he lost massive chunks of time to Chicken and AC.

Yeah evans has balls thats true. But look at the era. He came 2nd in 2007 a very dirty tour. He emerged during the dark years. Perhaps its possible. But looking at all the stuff dopers take - blood boosters steroids testostrone fat loss, is it plausible that 1 guy can be on absolutely none of these and perform so high?

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

However, I dont think this one will go anywhere, plenty of instances of food contamination, and he has "known" issues with allergy's etc.

He'll need a backdated TUE for that. And at this point, such a thing would look highly absurd. But this being cycling and all...

So Sastre is the only "clean" TDF winner in last 15 years? How about BigMig?...

Oddly enough, the drug that once showed up in Mig's system right as it was banned was, you guessed it.

FWIW, Banesto was not clean. They had a team-sanctioned doping program. Former riders have testified to it.

Hostname forum.cyclingnews.com

I posted quite a few pages ago that it was based in Bath, and even gave a link to the contact page.

 

[python]

Contador just released a press statement with complete explanation

+1-1+1000=+1000*

*i beat the minimum required characters

 

[Race Radio]

The point was Schleck dropped the chain. Without that Contador doesnt get tested (im not sure but thats what it looks like). What does Vino do? Under any grand plan of Vinos, Contador isnt in yellow on rest day 2 and hence doesnt get tested.

AC gets tested no matter what. The test was on the morning of the rest day. As a top rider he is going to get test on the rest day.

 

[Race Radio]

He'll need a backdated TUE for that..

No more TUE's for Clen

 

[royalpig180]

EDIT: Responding to who could challenge A Shleck in the TdF next year if Contador rly is out of it

Nibali maybe? He should pick up a little time in the TT but I imagine he'll lose too much in the mountains if Shleck can repeat the form he had this year...

 

[Ferminal]

say wot? repeat after me: "YOUR DELIRIOUS"

acf94

I guess you could just copy what i said in my post. (below, click to see actual quote in my post)

I thought I had it quoted.

Phil has had his say, apparently it's a disgrace that it has come this far, and I quote "This amount of a substance couldn't help a rabbit jump over a fence".

So I guess that's it, he will get off.

 

[The Hitch]

AC gets tested no matter what. The test was on the morning of the rest day. As a top rider he is going to get test on the rest day.

Ok. Good that thats sorted. I was going to claim credit for thinking of this first, kind of like ACF claimed to have been the one to test COntador, found the positive test and broke the story to the world.

 

[Hairy Wheels]

Here's an idea. He blood doped with blood he thought was clean. He had been taking clenbuterol in training to get lean and build some muscle (my roomie in 1st year uni took it...it looked like it worked...the guy was jacked after he took it for a little while). A simple error to make, esp. given that the amount detected was so small...Contador thought his blood was clean.

Anyone else?

BTW...to the guy who thinks "favourite" is incorrect spelling...you need to get on a big jet plane and travel a little. There's a whole world out there....

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

You need to stop inventing things because they just make you look foolish. I have seen few, if any, posters here that have said that AC is/was clean.

SSDD

Numerous posters would defend him when anybody brought up Operation Puerto, Werner Franke, the Greg Lemond accusation or any other instance when AC's name was mentioned alongside doping.

 

[Anonymous]

Here's an idea. He blood doped with blood he thought was clean. He had been taking clenbuterol in training to get lean and build some muscle (my roomie in 1st year uni took it...it looked like it worked...the guy was jacked after he took it for a little while). A simple error to make, esp. given that the amount detected was so small...Contador thought his blood was clean.

Anyone else?

BTW...to the guy who thinks "favourite" is incorrect spelling...you need to get on a big jet plane and travel a little. There's a whole world out there....

A bit like landis blood doping with blood that had traces of testosterone in it. I see a pattern forming

 

[Captain Kirk]

Yeah evans has balls thats true. But look at the era. He came 2nd in 2007 a very dirty tour. He emerged during the dark years. Perhaps its possible. But looking at all the stuff dopers take - blood boosters steroids testostrone fat loss, is it plausible that 1 guy can be on absolutely none of these and perform so high?

I believe so, he has been tested and profiled by the AIS from day 1 as a junior (the first athlete to have that done), what better form of bio passport could you want - just like Lemond suggested a year ago

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Am I reading this correctly that UCI thinks further inquiry is needed becuase the lab was able to detect the substance as a lower concentration than the lab is required to be able to detect? So the lab is too good at what it does?

That and they are ignoring their own rules on the issue - unless there is a allowable level to show in a sample, its either positive or negative.

If its positive let Mr Contador and his legal team explain the circumstances.

 

[Anonymous]

UCI Statement
http://www.uci.ch/Modules/ENews/ENe...es/UCI/UCI5/layout.asp?MenuID=MTYxNw&LangId=1

The UCI confirmed today that Spanish rider Alberto Contador returned an adverse analytical finding for clenbuterol following the analysis of urine sample taken during an in competition test on 21st July 2010 on the second rest day of the Tour de France.

This result was reported by the WADA accredited laboratory in Cologne to UCI and WADA simultaneously.

The concentration found by the laboratory was estimated at 50 picograms (or 0,000 000 000 05 grams per ml).

In view of this very small concentration and in consultation with WADA, the UCI immediately had the proper results management proceedings conducted including the analysis of B sample that confirmed the first result. The rider, who had already put an end to his cycling season before the result was known, was nevertheless formally and provisionally suspended as is prescribed by the World Anti-Doping Code.

This case required further scientific investigation before any conclusion could be drawn.

The UCI continues working with the scientific support of WADA to analyse all the elements that are relevant to the case. This further investigation may take some more time.

In order to protect the integrity of the proceedings and in accordance with the World Anti-Doping Code, the UCI will refrain from making any further comments until the management of this adverse analytical finding has been completed.

full statement quoted as its relevant to the thread and saves people having to go read the link

 

[Parrot23]

"This amount of a substance couldn't help a rabbit jump over a fence".

+1 Ha, ha,

Here's an idea. He blood doped with blood he thought was clean.

That is what I think caught Landis and why he continues to insist he didn't use a testosterone patch at the Tour. Poor logistics of blood doping. Once Bertie didn't have the total quality management (TQM) of the Bruyneel system, the risks rose (re custody issue of blood/marking bags, etc.).

Edit: I see Team Sky beat me to this point on Landis.