Cookson is worse for cycling than McQuaid

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thehog

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yes. No need to beat around the bush.
This is pretty self-explanatory:
Not pretty.

Menchov cover up.
Illegal Froome TUE.
Oliver.
Buying votes.
Zorzoli in, Zevenbergen out.
No independent antidoping body as promised.

The list is already long.
Not pretty.

Threats to JTL
Astana off the hook
Presiding over mass doping
Creating the Kreuzing passport from thin air
Selfies on Twitter

All whilst pretending to set up independent doping...


He certainly is comedy this Cookson guy.
 
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sniper said:
yes. No need to beat around the bush.
This is pretty self-explanatory:
Not pretty.

Menchov cover up.
Illegal Froome TUE.
Oliver.
Buying votes.
Zorzoli in, Zevenbergen out.
No independent antidoping body as promised.

The list is already long.
Not pretty.

Zorzoli ethical? :rolleyes:
 
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thehog said:
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He certainly is comedy this Cookson guy.
but there aint nobody laughing.
or is there?
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The UCI now publishes the list of all penalties imposed on riders on its website, as soon as they are pronounced and notified to the main parties concerned. The UCI has gone even farther as it also publishes, even though not compulsory, the list of provisionally suspended riders. This is another important step towards greater transparency in the field of anti-doping.

Bolded as from the article. Underlined the WTF aspect for me.

This so reminds me of 1984.
 
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Dear Wiggo said:
Bolded as from the article.

This so reminds me of 1984.

Imo there's huge contrast between this and the recent CN interwiev...

I liked the latter. Not so much this one...

Smells to much of different PR-agendas for different arenas...
But that's life i guess...

Let's hope the promised part two is better...

edit: don't recall 84' started following cycling in 90'...
But I think I can guess what you're referring to, and I also think that is under any circumstances is a pretty weak measurement of success...

And let's see if he is on the mark with this one:

While the CIRC’s findings may make uncomfortable reading

second edit: Unless you're referring to the book you mentioned the other day? Then I haven't guessed at all :)
Must get up to speed on that..
 

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Tinkkov for UCI president. This guy is right about Cookson.

Love the "my friend".

Oleg Tinkov, the outspoken owner of the Tinkoff-Saxo team, has told Cyclingnews that he is ready to start a legal battle with the UCI because of the way the international governing body of cycling has handled the Roman Kreuziger Biological Passport case.

Speaking in an exclusive interview at his summer home on the Tuscan coast after a ride in the nearby hills, Tinkov described the UCI as "amateurish" and "bureaucratic." He believes the UCI is the biggest obstacle stopping the progression and better commercialization of professional cycling.

Tinkov is ready to fight to make the UCI economically responsible for their actions and the consequences of their decisions. He hinted that he and other key stakeholders in cycling could be ready to revive plans for a breakaway structure for the sport, if the UCI fails to modernize how the sport is run and managed.

He is angry that the UCI has provisionally suspended Roman Kreuziger before he has faced a disciplinary hearing about alleged anomalies in his Biological Passport dating back to 2012 when he rode for the Astana team. Kreuziger is set to challenge the provisional suspension at the Court of Arbitration for Sport in an attempt to ride the Vuelta a España with Tinkoff-Saxo.

"My idea now is to ask them for compensation. I want them to face their commercial responsibilities. Maybe I'll take action in a London court not in a sporting court. They're managing big business sport and so they have to be responsible for what they're doing," Tinkov said.

"I've basically lost a lot of money because of their stupid procedures. They need clarify the rules for the Biological Passport. Some people, some experts say there are anomalies. Others say there aren't but who is going to prove what is the truth and when? And how long is all going to take?"

Tinkov bought the team from Bjarne Riis for a reported six million Euro last December. He has attended a number of races, including much of the recent Tour de France, becoming closely involved in the running of the team and has a long-term goal to make Tinkoff-Saxo the best team in professional cycling.

He revealed that he is working to bring several influential team owners together to defend their interests. He said some major team owners gathered at the five-star chateaux in Provence of BMC team owner Andy Rihs for lunch during the Tour de France.

He hinted he has the support of several other major teams in his fight against the UCI.

"At the beginning of the season, when I came into the game, I believed that ASO was the main obstacle to make the teams and the sport commercially stronger and independent but now after a series of meeting with team owners and with Yann Le Moenner and Jean-Francois Pescheux of ASO, I believe that the UCI is the main obstacle that does not allow cycling to progress," Tinkov told Cyclingnews.

"I saw that ASO are business people, that they're looking for money, like we are. But the UCI doesn’t care about the money. They're a bunch of bureaucrats. They've tried to establish the rules but can't even do that. They don’t understand about business and money and are making a real mess at the moment."

Tinkov was happy to elaborate on his thoughts and opinions in a long monologue.

"I met with 'my friend' Mr. Cookson and he sounded very convincing but the reality is the opposite," Tinkov said.

"I'll give you two examples of what I mean. First was the way Nairo Quintana won the Giro d'Italia with the confusion on the Passo Stelvio. It was a nice win but in my view it was a tainted win. I don’t blame the riders or the teams, it happened because there are no clear rules for that situation. The UCI have never written clear rules.

"The Biological Passport is a similar mess. I can't say that Roman Kreuziger is clean or not, that's not really the issue here and also his problems happened before he joined my team, so it's nothing I could have controlled. What I'm saying is that if he doped, then he deserves to be banned for a long time. But if he didn’t dope or he hasn't yet been found guilty, then he should be allowed to race. It's like owning a good race horse. I want it to race, not stay in the stable. I have to utilize my investment.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/exclusive-tinkov-ready-for-legal-battle-with-the-uci
 

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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/new...en-teams-facing-possible-voluntary-suspension

MPCC says seven teams facing possible voluntary suspension

What are the odds seven or more MPCC associated teams get positives and have to abandon the MPCC in 2015?

I say 100%. Don't worry, it will be more low-ranking riders.

Cookson talking like JV again.

“I wasn’t able to hide my disappointment on the day of the designation of the WorldTour licences,” Cookson told Gazzetta dello Sport. “For me, it was very frustrating, but we had to work with legal tools and I had to accept that. But the game isn’t over. I’m still determined to act, professionally and legally, once the dossier from Padova has been received and submitted to the Licence Commission.”

While Cookson stressed that he saw “no reason to have any suspicions” about the performances of Tour de France winner Vincenzo Nibali, he said that there were concerns over others on the Astana team and management.

“The problem is that in his Astana team there are people with less desirable histories, and so I’m calling on everyone to take their responsibilities: team managers, national federations, competitors and suppliers,” he said.
 
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It will get interesting if he's gonna take the liscence of every team with riders and staff with "less desirable history" or even every team in the Padova files.

I wonder if Knaven has called CIRC?
 
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Some old, boring, news.

http://www.verocom.co.uk/uci-presid...onal-olympic-committee-president-thomas-bach/

This is what press secretaries do.

IOC President Bach stated: “The UCI informed me of all the measures they are taking to protect their sport from manipulation of any kind, in particular doping.

:rolleyes:


The Professional Cycling Council seems to do the management of both sides of the show. They pick races and teams. Nice opportunity for Council members to collect bribes.

http://www.bikeworldnews.com/2014/0...ling-council-holds-first-meeting-switzerland/

Here's the list of Professional Cycling Council members
http://www.uci.ch/inside-uci/organisation/commissions/commission/professional-cycling-council/

Pay attention to the honorary president. Apparently a close associate of Hein Verbruggen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vittorio_Adorni

Maybe my point in all of this is how long Verbruggen and McQaid's legacy extend into the future, assuring us all the UCI isn't responding to the doping controversy it creates.
 
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DirtyWorks said:
Some old, boring, news.

http://www.verocom.co.uk/uci-presid...onal-olympic-committee-president-thomas-bach/

This is what press secretaries do.

IOC President Bach stated: “The UCI informed me of all the measures they are taking to protect their sport from manipulation of any kind, in particular doping.

:rolleyes:


The Professional Cycling Council seems to do the management of both sides of the show. They pick races and teams. Nice opportunity for Council members to collect bribes.

http://www.bikeworldnews.com/2014/0...ling-council-holds-first-meeting-switzerland/

Here's the list of Professional Cycling Council members
http://www.uci.ch/inside-uci/organisation/commissions/commission/professional-cycling-council/

Pay attention to the honorary president. Apparently a close associate of Hein Verbruggen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vittorio_Adorni

Maybe my point in all of this is how long Verbruggen and McQaid's legacy extend into the future, assuring us all the UCI isn't responding to the doping controversy it creates.
thanks for the links.
Current PCC president Lappartient also traces back to the Verbruggen/McQuaid era.
 
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it's time sporting bodies stopped kidding themselves and pretending they have dopers on the run. Look at the cyclists caught this year but no real big fish:cool:. Just accept riders/athletes dope and start managing the situation. Every time another rider gets caught it just shows the lack of fear and how useless the anti-doping laws are and the UCI and all the other bodies look stupid.
 

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it's time sporting bodies stopped kidding themselves and pretending they have dopers on the run. Look at the cyclists caught this year but no real big fish:cool:. Just accept riders/athletes dope and start managing the situation. Every time another rider gets caught it just shows the lack of fear and how useless the anti-doping laws are and the UCI and all the other bodies look stupid.

Looks like you need your last name to be Rogers to get a pass on doping...

Lampre rider tested positive for Salbutamol at Giro d'Italia

A verdict on Diego Ulissi’s positive test for Salbutamol has been delayed until January following a three and a half hour hearing in Lugano on Tuesday. Gazzetta dello Sport reports that the delay is to allow for the compilation of a full statement of defence from Ulissi’s legal team.

Ulissi faces a possible ban of two years if found guilty of a doping infraction, although Gazzetta speculates that any sanction is likely to be between nine and twelve months in length, with the start of the suspension backdated to the day of his initial positive test on May 21.

Ulissi returned an adverse analytical finding for Salbutamol during the Giro d’Italia, where he won two stages. The amount of salbutamol found in his urine – 1900 ng/ml – was almost twice the permissible limit of 1,000 ng/ml. According to the Lampre-Merida team, Ulissi declared two daily puffs of Ventolin, equivalent to 100ng of Salbutamol each.

Although adverse analytical findings for specified substances do not require mandatory provisional suspensions, Ulissi was withheld from racing by Lampre and he underwent a battery of tests in Lausanne in July in a bid to explain the anomaly.

In the absence of further clarification from the UCI, Ulissi then returned to racing for Lampre at the Coppa Bernocchi on September 16. That very evening, however, the UCI announced that it had instigated disciplinary proceedings against the Italian and he was again removed from Lampre’s active roster.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/verdict-in-ulissi-case-delayed-until-early-january
 
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ray j willings said:
Look at the cyclists caught this year but no real big fish

You are missing the point. Catching a few low-level athletes who cannot afford bribes gives the appearance someone is doing something.

As the IAAF story shows, the reality is nothing like it. An appropriate movie analogy is Inspector Renault in Casablanca.

We don't know how/why some athletes are welcomed back and others are not. My wild guess is money is a factor in the decision.
 
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DirtyWorks said:
You are missing the point. Catching a few low-level athletes who cannot afford bribes gives the appearance someone is doing something.

As the IAAF story shows, the reality is nothing like it. An appropriate movie analogy is Inspector Renault in Casablanca.

We don't know how/why some athletes are welcomed back and others are not. My wild guess is money is a factor in the decision.

My guess is money is the main factor. Why was Contador's positive kept quiet? Why are UCI now only releasing the info on positives via an online pdf? Gives athletes time to make a 'deposit'.....
 
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DirtyWorks said:
You are missing the point. Catching a few low-level athletes who cannot afford bribes gives the appearance someone is doing something.

As the IAAF story shows, the reality is nothing like it. An appropriate movie analogy is Inspector Renault in Casablanca.

We don't know how/why some athletes are welcomed back and others are not. My wild guess is money is a factor in the decision.


I agree ,that was point. That's why I mentioned no big fish.
 
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The federation is trying so hard to act as if it is not a thoroughly corrupted, small-time sport.

UCI WorldTour seminar welcomes the return of credibility to the sport


Let's review 2015 changes:
Sanctions will emanate from inside the UCI. That means Swiss law applies to every cyclist in the testing pool anywhere in the world. Also a great opportunity for bribes and never testing positive.

Anti-doping organization is "independent" yet operated by the UCI, inside the UCI, paid for by the UCI.

And now, the teams are under new, strict controls. ;)

http://www.uci.ch/pressreleases/uci...ementation-the-reform-men-elite-road-cycling/

2015 will be the year of the cleanest peloton ever. Again.
 
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DirtyWorks said:
The federation is trying so hard to act as if it is not a thoroughly corrupted, small-time sport.

UCI WorldTour seminar welcomes the return of credibility to the sport


Let's review 2015 changes:
Sanctions will emanate from inside the UCI. That means Swiss law applies to every cyclist in the testing pool anywhere in the world. Also a great opportunity for bribes and never testing positive.

Anti-doping organization is "independent" yet operated by the UCI, inside the UCI, paid for by the UCI.

And now, the teams are under new, strict controls. ;)

http://www.uci.ch/pressreleases/uci...ementation-the-reform-men-elite-road-cycling/

2015 will be the year of the cleanest peloton ever. Again.

Maybe Festina could sponsor it...:D
 
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http://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/terpstra_criticizes_the_uci/

Niki Terpstra is not satisfied with the performance of the International Cycling Union UCI. The Dutchman has clear ideas about how the sport can be improved but according to him, it makes no sense to present them to the international union. "It is impossible," he tells Algemeen Dagblad. "The UCI makes so many mistakes. Everything turns into a drama."

The Paris-Roubaix winner disagrees with the decision to give Astana a WorldTour license. He is also not a fan of the current rules for prize money. "You are lucky if the money is on your account one year after the race. And there is always something taken off the amount. First a few percent, then another few percent. And most of it goes to the UCI. To the union itself or to the riders' union - but they are also part of the UCI.
 
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the sceptic said:
The Paris-Roubaix winner disagrees with the decision to give Astana a WorldTour license [but preferred to change the topic.] He is also not a fan of the current rules for prize money. "You are lucky if the money is on your account one year after the race. And there is always something taken off the amount. First a few percent, then another few percent. And most of it goes to the UCI. To the union itself or to the riders' union - but they are also part of the UCI.
fixed that for Niki, free of charge.
 

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