Coronavirus: How dangerous a threat?

[movingtarget]

Experts stress Covid vaccine benefits outweigh risks after seven UK deaths

30 reported cases of blood clotting issues after AstraZeneca jab out of 18.1m doses

www.theguardian.com

 

[movingtarget]

A Mexican tragedy: country's crippling Covid crisis comes into sharp focus

Adriana Mejía lost half her family in just 83 days – now a huge death toll of 294,000 is being quietly acknowledged

www.theguardian.com

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

My father died earlier this week. He was 87, male seniors run the biggest risk apparently and his lungs simply stopped taking in oxygen. He was otherwise physically rather well for his age, went for daily walks with my mom, who is 83 and who recovered. He did survive two accounts of cancer 13 and 5 years ago.

Ironically, his invitation to get vaccinated came in the mail, a few days before he died in the hospital.

 

[jmdirt]

My father died earlier this week. He was 87, male seniors run the biggest risk apparently and his lungs simply stopped taking in oxygen. He was otherwise physically rather well for his age, went for daily walks with my mom, who is 83 and who recovered. He did survive two accounts of cancer 13 and 5 years ago.

Ironically, his invitation to get vaccinated came in the mail, a few days before he died in the hospital.

I'm sending positive thoughts to you and your family! I clicked the sad face, but 87 years is quite a life, probably filled with way more happy faces!

 

[Unchained]

My father died earlier this week. He was 87, male seniors run the biggest risk apparently and his lungs simply stopped taking in oxygen. He was otherwise physically rather well for his age, went for daily walks with my mom, who is 83 and who recovered. He did survive two accounts of cancer 13 and 5 years ago.

Ironically, his invitation to get vaccinated came in the mail, a few days before he died in the hospital.

Sorry for your loss.
May your suffering and pain be as short as possible..And if you celebrate Easter I hope this one helps you and your family.
dirt has typed in the standing in Idaho ,adjusting the limit to 50 years old..In California we are getting closer..but 55 is the recently announced age cut off.
For everyone who has experienced a loss of an older person,I am glad that there was not extensive back and forth and that the older population was prioritized. It is unimaginable to think how things would look if they were not given initial vaccine priority.

 

[Koronin]

My father died earlier this week. He was 87, male seniors run the biggest risk apparently and his lungs simply stopped taking in oxygen. He was otherwise physically rather well for his age, went for daily walks with my mom, who is 83 and who recovered. He did survive two accounts of cancer 13 and 5 years ago.

Ironically, his invitation to get vaccinated came in the mail, a few days before he died in the hospital.

Sorry for your loss. Sending positive thoughts to you and your family.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I'm sending positive thoughts to you and your family! I clicked the sad face, but 87 years is quite a life, probably filled with way more happy faces!

@Unchained & @Koronin thank you.

Yes, he was active in the rebellion of WWII as a 7-12 year old. His entire family was. One of his older brothers was killed in a cornfield raising his head to see if the coast was clear, by a German patrol while they were retreating. Most of his rather large family never reached 80, so he never expected to turn 87, especially not after being diagnosed with cancer at 74. Covid lockdowns also had their impact due to restricted social contact, and we made a last roadtrip with the family (including my brothers and sisters) to Vienna and Budapest only last summer. After his infection which didn't seem to bother him much at first, the second week went blazingly fast. In less than a week, he went from mild symptoms to his final moments.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

@Unchained & @Koronin thank you.

Yes, he was active in the rebellion of WWII as a 7-12 year old. His entire family was. One of his older brothers was killed in a cornfield raising his head to see if the coast was clear, by a German patrol while they were retreating. Most of his rather large family never reached 80, so he never expected to turn 87, especially not after being diagnosed with cancer at 74. Covid lockdowns also had their impact due to restricted social contact, and we made a last roadtrip with the family (including my brothers and sisters) to Vienna and Budapest only last summer. After his infection which didn't seem to bother him much at first, the second week went blazingly fast. In less than a week, he went from mild symptoms to his final moments.

It sounds like your father had been quite the trooper, finding people from the WWII generation is getting to be harder and harder. (My dad is still alive and mostly kicking at almost 80, he was 4 by the time the war had finally ended. His dad had been killed by the Nazis.)

I'll echo everyone else's sentiments and say sorry for your loss, am sending positive thoughts and vibes.

 

[Unchained]

A Mexican tragedy: country's crippling Covid crisis comes into sharp focus

Adriana Mejía lost half her family in just 83 days – now a huge death toll of 294,000 is being quietly acknowledged

www.theguardian.com

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D7UYB6HwYJA

In Ensenada I thought that the local government had done something logical by restricting parking directly across from Playa Hermosa..on my return to get an oil filter..nope the barriers were up to protect the new concrete curbing..the beach was pretty full..the street parking was full to the point of no open spots..
Spring Break was pretty tame..And w really really long border waits and many venues shut down,no March madness crowds either..when the cruise ships start sailing again maybe downtown tourism will rebound..there is a popular wine region here named Valle Guadalupe..it's socked for the last month..w a mix of Mexican nationals and foreign tourists..it really looks to me like Mexico's...we see nothing..say nothing attitude towards tourism has been positive for cash registers..my eyes focus on motorcycle and off road tourism and it looks better than pre pandemic..
I really really hope things don't dive

 

[Unchained]

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FmKLQZOkZQ0

 

[Unchained]

What I really can't wrap my head around..why India is doing so good..

 

[Sciatic]

My father died earlier this week. He was 87, male seniors run the biggest risk apparently and his lungs simply stopped taking in oxygen. He was otherwise physically rather well for his age, went for daily walks with my mom, who is 83 and who recovered. He did survive two accounts of cancer 13 and 5 years ago.

Ironically, his invitation to get vaccinated came in the mail, a few days before he died in the hospital.

So sorry to hear that Logic

 

[movingtarget]

What I really can't wrap my head around..why India is doing so good..

India faces tighter lockdowns as Covid infections surge

Biggest cities brace for new restrictions with cases rising in Maharashtra and Karnataka states

www.theguardian.com

 

[Keram]

In Slovakia there will be soon more vaccines than people willing to get vaccine. It is already open for age of 50+ because of low demand but in age group 70+ roughly 35% are vaccinated. I dont understand any person older than 65 who dont want it.Benefits way way more outweight risks. I can understand young people say 35 and younger.

Anyway as a state employee I have right to be vaccinated, despite of my young age, so I will be jabbed next friday with Astra. I hope they wont ban it for people under 55 until then

 

[Nomad]

I just thought that I would toss this in here because one of the forum members indicated that they were too healthy to have health issues including cardiac:

Stybar ruled out of Tour of Flanders after undergoing cardiac ablation procedure

Czech diagnosed with heart rhythm issue following Gent-Wevelgem

www.cyclingnews.com

C'mon jmdirt - there's a thread under the clinic titled "Cardiac Anonmalies - is something going on or is this normal?" The issues with elites & cardiac anonmalies is addressed there which can result from a multitude of causes including pre-existing conditions.

All I mentioned concerning my health is that I'm not worried about any cardiac problems based on my diet & fitness program, the fact that I had a complete cardio workup including a stress test a few yrs ago and that no heart disease runs in the family.

 

[jmdirt]

File under the "laugh to keep from crying during a pandemic":

Set up:
-We have loads of ticks in the sagebrush here.
-People either pick ticks out of their dogs (me), or use chemicals to keep them off (YUK).
-Neighbor (#1) two doors down with really nice, but crazy hyper dog.
-Neighbor (#2) one block down and one block over who is anti everything, and sees everything as a conspiracy/way to get us. He looks full duck dynasty, never wears a shirt, and has a 'six months prego belly' even though he is super skinny. He is all in on the SARS-COV-2 vaccine being a micro-bot delivery system, but other vaccines are the "reason there are so many retards". Pot, kettle?

As I'm heading out to walk my dog there are several neighbors chatting in the sun. We all exchange pleasantries as neighbor #2 walks up, belly out. Neighbor #1 says: "I put this tick collar on my dog and now she has ADD!"

 

[Unchained]

Happy Easter to everyone who celebrates it.
I think that there are no straight lines in anything about the virus, the variation of human,human condition and so many other variables make everyone unfortunately unique. I will say this about a few surprises in the US, governments of all colors are doing intelligent and practical things to get shots into arms. The reaction to supply and demand has been swift and positive. Officials identity unfilled appointment times,unused vaccine and target communities and adjust qualification parameters to use what they got. Impressive.
there is also some closet stuff like porn,alcohol,pot,sex,ect..so people say one thing in public about a subject but in practice, something different is happening. So the short bus riders like Tucker Carlson say things that look to be connecting with an audience, in the end when he is not looking,they go get a vaccine. I personally don't care if people have a bold, anti vax,no f-ing way public as long as they have I want to see my grandchildren,grow up private action.
it's also super dynamic and a complete surprise that places like West Virginia can pat themselves on the back for a job fantastically accomplished!!And listening to some of their leaders.. " you thought we were simple hillbillies and we proved you wrong,check us out for other positive surprises ". Taking there vaccine distribution success and trying to parlay it into an economic growth opportunity..kudos.
I am spending Easter baking 2 chickens and removing rust from disc rotor bolts ..I hope others are being as spiritual.
US..560,000+ dead..20% vaccinated and trying for now..

 

[Koronin]

Happy Easter to all who celebrate it.

It appears that Pfizer/BionTech is getting their paperwork ready to submit for EUA to the FDA for children/teens between 12 and 16 with in the next few weeks. (Pfizer is already approved for 16 year olds and up). The good news if this age group gets the EUA is that many high school students will be able to be vaccinated before fall so that it will be easier to reopen high schools in the fall. They have already started the trial for children 5 to 11, and will be starting the trials for children 2 to 5 next week, with a trial for 6 months to 2 to follow soon.

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine proves safe and effective for kids ages 12 to 15, company study shows

Vaccination was 100% effective against symptomatic disease in 12- to 15-year-olds, the company-sponsored study of 2,260 adolescents found.

www.usatoday.com

Pfizer-BioNTech says Covid vaccine is 100% effective in kids ages 12 to 15

Pfizer plans to submit the new vaccine data to the FDA "as soon as possible," CEO Albert Bourla said.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Unchained]

This is going to be like marijuana,alcohol or masturbation..you can tell people over and over and over not to do it or you will go crazy, end up blind. But once they find out you are full of chit, you can't stop em'. I watched a news report this morning that there has been an @18 point shift in 60 days of people who now say they will get the vaccine,that a couple of months ago said NFW..I suspect that the wave will continue as people don't see any real life complications as predicted by the hysterians..
OAN and Fox have got to wonder what impact the internet has on them overall,when anybody anywhere can see old footage of them saying in the most extreme terms complete BS..repeatedly

 

[Ripper]

My father died earlier this week. He was 87, male seniors run the biggest risk apparently and his lungs simply stopped taking in oxygen. He was otherwise physically rather well for his age, went for daily walks with my mom, who is 83 and who recovered. He did survive two accounts of cancer 13 and 5 years ago.

Ironically, his invitation to get vaccinated came in the mail, a few days before he died in the hospital.

Truly sorry for your loss, such a sad state of affairs the world is in. I hope you were able to say goodbye.

 

[roundabout]

‘Link’ between AstraZeneca vaccine and blood clots, EMA official says

European Medicines Agency continues to recommend people get vaccinated, saying benefits outweigh any risks

www.independent.co.uk

And people asking for transparency why vaccinations were halted should also ask for transparency behind the pointlessly blanket statements about the risk and benefits that came out both from AZ and EMA .

But it's good that things are moving in a right direction, I guess.

 

[Jagartrott]

In Slovakia there will be soon more vaccines than people willing to get vaccine. It is already open for age of 50+ because of low demand but in age group 70+ roughly 35% are vaccinated. I dont understand any person older than 65 who dont want it.Benefits way way more outweight risks. I can understand young people say 35 and younger.

Mind-boggling.
There is a proven link between vaccine hesitancy and education level, but there seems to more going on as the difference between countries is sometimes huge.

In Belgium, people can now register for a 'reserve list' for vaccinations, i.e. if a vaccination center has a no-show, they contact someone from that reserve list who has to be able to show up rapidly - to avoid vaccines being lost. The chance that you actually get contacted and perhaps save a week or two compared to your normal vaccination slot is small, yet still, on this first day, the website was overwhelmed with hundreds of thousands of people wanting to sign up. When I compare that eagerness to the situation in Slovakia and some other countries, where even plenty of old people refuse to be vaccinated... it's just plain weird.

My condolences to Logic. Such stories only reinforce how important vaccinations are.

 

[dusty red roads]

Sorry for your loss Logic, wishing you and yours all the best


Next generation of better, cheaper vaccines:

Researchers Are Hatching a Low-Cost Coronavirus Vaccine (Published 2021)

A new formulation entering clinical trials in Brazil, Mexico, Thailand and Vietnam could change how the world fights the pandemic.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Unchained]

In the United States, they are saying that all persons(veterans) who are qualified to receive care through the Vetrerans Health Administration..can get vaccinated regardless of age.
[URL="http://www.va.gov/health-care/covid-19-vaccine[/URL]"]www.va.gov/health-care/covid-19-vaccine[/URL]
The instructions I received in the mail,gave instructions to call your local VA clinic if using the website is not your thing

 

[djpbaltimore]

And people asking for transparency why vaccinations were halted should also ask for transparency behind the pointlessly blanket statements about the risk and benefits that came out both from AZ and EMA .

But it's good that things are moving in a right direction, I guess.

As one who asked for transparency about the halt, there should definitely be more from the EMA about this too. Any given will be more than we got for the halt which was a big goose egg.

What do you mean by the right direction?