
Africa's largest Covid treatment clinical trial launched by 13-country network
Anticov study with international research institutions aims to stop disease progression and protect fragile health systems
Maybe they should also look up the median age for death from cancer. I believe it is around 75. Does anybody think that we make too big a deal about cancer?
Cases | % increase | |||
Oct 1-7 | 320,879 | |||
Oct 8-14 | 374,059 | 16.6 | ||
Oct 15-21 | 436,564 | 16.7 | ||
Oct 22-28 | 530,869 | 21.6 | ||
Oct 29-Nov 4 | 652,370 | 22.9 | ||
Nov 5-11 | 912,367 | 39.9 | ||
Nov 12-18 | 1,159,422 | 27.1 | ||
Nov 19-25* | 1,459,159 | 25.9 |
When all is said and done, it's possible that more people will die from changes in these regulations than from COVID.
Most of the adverse effects of vaccines manifest short term. The fear of long term effects is mostly due to anti-vaxxer framing that has seeped into common discourse IMO. The misinformation that is going to be put up on social media is going to be fierce as soon as people start getting jabbed. I don't think we are adequately prepared for the onslaught.It is very positive that multiple vaccines seems to be working. I hope this is the light at the end of the tunnel ( I am not sure if this is international but it is positive affirmation). Other than antivaxxers I see some skepticizm in my surrounding mostly about high speed of development and long term side effects. I have my doubts too if this is not too good to be true but I am willing to get vaccine despite my relatively young age and good health conditions. We need to stop this. I think the thinking that young poeple dont need to get vaccine because there is small risk when they get covid is utterly wrong so is wrong thinking that others create herd immunity for me.
If you look at the per capita numbers, California has less than half as much hospitalizations as Wisconsin (158 vs 360) and less than a quarter of South Dakota (158 vs 658) despite having a much higher population density. Weather may help, but compare to Texas and their summer and fall peaks have been a little more than half as much (223 vs 376) and (158 vs 293). You may not like what is happening, but California has been a relative success story. One of the very few that you can say that with a straight face.I’m in Cali. The virus is literally blowing up here again. We have a Governor here that hates bad man to the core. We have been very restrictive here, much more so than other States. Our Gov’s goal was 60,000 tests per day. We are over 200,000 a day now. Back to a near shutdown again. Constitutional? No. Will we get compliance? Dunno this time.
but what I see you saying is F it, let's open up and let the chips fall where they may.
Fracking!! Reinforce my point further..first the perceived problem: a gas shortage..fairy tale..we don't need more..solution to the imaginary problem,
America still loses in the end because the earth is permanently destroyed.
All the talk about Covid colliding with commerce is crazy..Bars, restaurants,scools, buses ,airplanes and trains would all be up and running if the federal government had a plan..they don't,they didn't..
I know that dj an MI know this, but I still want to point out a distinction between cancer and covid: I can't get cancer from the lady at work, but I sure can get covid from her. That's why limiting person to person activities is critical for slowing covid, but not for slowing cancer.
Scott, if it's not clear yet, but it should be
I can't get cancer from the lady at work, but I sure can get covid from her. That's why limiting person to person activities is critical for slowing covid, but not for slowing cancer.
Not being forced to purchase energy from our enemies is a good thing. Thanks to Wildcatters all over this Country. And a giant bonus is what it’s done for our Country’s carbon footprint.
Week | Cases | Cases/day | Deaths | Deaths/day |
Nov26-Dec2 | 1,610,833 | 230,119 | 12,546 | 1792 |
Dec3-9 | 1,986,256 | 283,751 | 14,795 | 2114 |
Dec10-16 | 2,449,175 | 349,882 | 17,447 | 2492 |
Dec17-23 | 3,019,984 | 431,426 | 20,575 | 2939 |
Dec24-30 | 3,723,825 | 531,975 | 24,264 | 3466 |
Dec31-Jan6 | 4,591,705 | 655,957 | 28,614 | 4088 |
Jan7-13 | 5,661,854 | 808,836 | 33,743 | 4820 |
Jan14-20 | 39,793 | 5685 | ||
Jan21-27 | 46,926 | 6704 | ||
Jan28-Feb3 | 55,339 | 7906 |
I see there's a lot of skepticism about this - quite possibly well founded - but I hope it's really legit cos it'd be great news if so - i.e. - another vaccine to add to the choices... but - how true is all the data?
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Russia says data on Sputnik Covid vaccine shows 95% efficacy
Country offers to share technology, saying results positive for the entire worldwww.theguardian.com
And there is your real problem right there. There is no one to believe because the American news media has gutted its own credibility. A large faction of the media spent three years pushing conspiracy theories about Russian collusion. CNN could broadcast live video of Jesus descending from the heavens and the god fearing among the population would not believe it because of CNN's past lies. Sometime in 2016, The New York Times and the Washington Post, previously stalwarts of American journalism even if they did lean left, made a conscious decision to give up any pretext of objectivity. The chickens have now come home to roost. What covid-19 made clear is the coffin lid on MSM news has been fitted in place and we are just waiting for the nails to be hammered home. I don't see any way back, not in a time frame that is not measured in decades.
Trust the scientists? Which ones? These days scientists are little more than expert witnesses in a court trial. Each side hires the ones who support its view. The same leftists who belittle conservatives for not believing in science are the ones who spent the last decade fear mongering about GMOs, did everything they can to put roadblocks up to stop nuclear power, promoted quack medicine in the form of alternative treatments, etc. It is, "Let's trust in science but only if it supports our political views." That is true for both sides of the political aisle.
Sorry. Rant off.
A large faction of the media spent three years pushing conspiracy theories about Russian collusion.
Trust the scientists? Which ones? These days scientists are little more than expert witnesses in a court trial. Each side hires the ones who support its view. The same leftists who belittle conservatives for not believing in science are the ones who spent the last decade fear mongering about GMOs, did everything they can to put roadblocks up to stop nuclear power, promoted quack medicine in the form of alternative treatments, etc. It is, "Let's trust in science but only if it supports our political views." That is true for both sides of the political aisle.
The argument there is that we don't shut down the economy to prevent people from getting cancer. Though economics do play a role there, too. A major reason the economy grew so much under Trump is that he loosened many environmental and safety regulations. This has consequences--many people get sick and die as a result of this. When all is said and done, it's possible that more people will die from changes in these regulations than from COVID.
We should be more realistic about the "economy" and what impacts it. Trump made the Dow average his benchmark for "his" performance. It's an international market impacted by every other market and where capital needs to hide with a shakey global outlook. Presidents may like to take credit but, save for timely announcements about tariffs that shady hedge funders know about in advance; the average 401k isn't profiting specifically from the President's actions.
As for his environmental regulation jihad; they can be undone before there is much damage. A announcement the Donald made opening the Tongass to logging at the start of Winter doesn't mean any deforesting is starting soon. The air and water quality standards can be reinstated and all of the automakers are committed to a global market that wants cleaner cars. Even the dirty coal mine owners aren't going to open soon 'cause nobody wants to pay to mine sulphur laden coal and ship their sludge to the other side of the planet.
On the other hand, comparing an easily spread virus to cancer is not a relevant comparison. People aren't catching cancer from each other last time I heard and I'm an ignorant bike rider. And most of the "mental health and depression" issues will subside with the hope of vaccines as humans are fairly hopeful given a little daylight. We just need to minimize transmission in the meantime and not drink ourselves to death. That's more of a personal challenge but you probably understand.
It wasn't conspiracy theories. There was stuff over the edge, yes, but also enough verifiable information to get a lot of people indicted and convicted.
Before you trash science, you ought to stop and consider that without science, we wouldn't even know what a virus is, let alone how to develop a vaccine against it.
This probably isn't the place for this discussion, but using "scientist" as an overall term is part of the problem. For example a neurologist who focusses on the economic impact of health shouldn't be the go to for Covid-19. Yes, he is a scientist, but he is so far out of his lane that he's on a dirt road in a different country. Epidemiologists are the go to here. So "which ones?", the ones who specialize in a specific area.And there is your real problem right there. There is no one to believe because the American news media has gutted its own credibility. A large faction of the media spent three years pushing conspiracy theories about Russian collusion. CNN could broadcast live video of Jesus descending from the heavens and the god fearing among the population would not believe it because of CNN's past lies. Sometime in 2016, The New York Times and the Washington Post, previously stalwarts of American journalism even if they did lean left, made a conscious decision to give up any pretext of objectivity. The chickens have now come home to roost. What covid-19 made clear is the coffin lid on MSM news has been fitted in place and we are just waiting for the nails to be hammered home. I don't see any way back, not in a time frame that is not measured in decades.
Trust the scientists? Which ones? These days scientists are little more than expert witnesses in a court trial. Each side hires the ones who support its view. The same leftists who belittle conservatives for not believing in science are the ones who spent the last decade fear mongering about GMOs, did everything they can to put roadblocks up to stop nuclear power, promoted quack medicine in the form of alternative treatments, etc. It is, "Let's trust in science but only if it supports our political views." That is true for both sides of the political aisle.
Sorry. Rant off.
I don't know what happens this weekend, but the data looks like the curve might be bending here.
If you’ll look you’ll find those convicted had nothing to do with the Russia collusion wholecloth. FBI could start an investigation of the moon being made of cheese and they will trap people for perjury and tax-evasion. It’s what they do.
That’s not what I got from BroDeal’s post. He’s trashing political elites for actively searching out those in the field that will confirm their political bias.
Look at C19. Brodeal accuses the media of pushing conspiracy theories. There are very few scientists who have supported conspiracy theories about C19, and those who have have been subjected to withering rebuttal by other scientists. The areas where scientists have disagreed--in the projections of cases and deaths; the use of masks; the benefit of treatments like HCQ--are not in conspiracy theory territory. These are legitimate issues, and scientists have weighed in on both or multiple sides, though usually in the end a consensus has emerged.