Crashes, what can be done?

[Mayomaniac]

How do you enforce it (how much and for how long do you need to go above the limit to be DSQ'ed)? How practical is it for the rider to keep braking while closely monitoring his speed to ensure that he goes to the limit?

It was a bit of a provocant question, because most fatal crashes actually seem to happen on highspeed descents and not on technical ones that are deemed to be dangerous.

 

[rallybanana]

I just remember rider protests over being made to ride with a helment in like 1993. But you may be correct that compulsory helmets didn't actually take effect until 2003.

UCI introduced a compulsory helmet rule in 1991 but the riders protested

VeloNews Archive: Helmets an issue at Paris-Nice in '91

The tragic death of Andrei Kivilev at this year’s Paris-Nice is not thefirst time that helmets – specifically, whether pros should be requiredto wear them as a safety measure – have been an issue at the race. As Rupert Guinness noted in his coverage of the 1991 Paris-Nice, publishedin the April...

velo.outsideonline.com

 

[Netserk]

It was a bit of a provocant question, because most fatal crashes actually seem to happen on highspeed descents and not on technical ones that are deemed to be dangerous.

It makes sense to regulate route and equipment to ensure lower speeds--but unlike with cars, it's hard to imagine a speed-limit that would work in cycling.

While I don't think it's politically feasible, it could have a real impact to mandate slower wheels (and restrict gears).

 

[Nick2413]

Max speed limit is irrelevant, just give them slower bikes, easiest solution and still allows full gas racing. Anything that involves riders having to actively slow themselves down or be moto paced is a non starter.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

What kind of bike will slow riders down without looking impractical and unprofessional though? Will it be a 90s type of bike?

 

[Extinction]

It was a bit of a provocant question, because most fatal crashes actually seem to happen on highspeed descents and not on technical ones that are deemed to be dangerous.

Accept if you are Wouter Weylandt. Point is you can die at any moment on a bike.

 

[Oldermanish]

It was a bit of a provocant question, because most fatal crashes actually seem to happen on highspeed descents and not on technical ones that are deemed to be dangerous.

And there is usually rider error involved; particularly in group descents where everyone should be able to see the best line to take. I say this without seeing any part of the race so I don't intend any opinion on this tragic situation.

 

[noob]

I just don't understand how anyone can allow people without a fully grown brain to be in this sport. Junior racing and riders very young should be banned or at least extremely strictly regulated before anything else should be banned.

And punish riders for crashing if you believe it's their fault. Then you get more responsible racing.

Not that anyone would ever want that.

 

[RedheadDane]

Junior racing and riders very young should be banned or at least extremely strictly regulated before anything else should be banned.

A lot of the reasons given for Roglic's tendency to crash is the fact that he didn't practice from an earlier age.

 

[noob]

A lot of the reasons given for Roglic's tendency to crash is the fact that he didn't practice from an earlier age.

I know. But I don't neccessarily agree. He was almost dead from ski jumping for the reason he's Roglic imo. So he could just as well have died had he been cycling younger. It's in his DNA to take risks due to whatever brain chemistry he has. But when he's older he's old enough to at least know and calculate the risks. Young people literally can't do that. Or at least very rarely.

Learning when young is one thing; doing the most risky things when young is another.

Also since I happen to be an Almeida fan I see another side of the coin; the ridicule of a slow descender. Anyone who ridicules a guy like Almeida for his descending have zero say about safety in sport imnsho. Because he goes slow because of risk aversion. And fans hates that!

That has told me people don't want to see safe riding. They want to see the Mohorics of the world go ape shxit.

But at least Mohoric is old enough to be somewhat held responsible.

 

[Lequack]

Key questions left unanswered by UCI and David Lappartient after Muriel Furrer's death at Zurich Worlds​

UCI president's press conference in aftermath of fatal crash marked by digressions and deflections

Key questions left unanswered by UCI and David Lappartient after Muriel Furrer's death at Zurich Worlds

UCI president's press conference in aftermath of fatal crash marked by digressions and deflections

www.cyclingnews.com

 

[Ilmaestro99]

It was a bit of a provocant question, because most fatal crashes actually seem to happen on highspeed descents and not on technical ones that are deemed to be dangerous.

Yes. I always have felt.mucb more comfortable descending in a slow speed, technical descent, even though it's the kind that the Eurosport commentators would get all worried about it being 'very technical'

Technnical ≠ dangerous

It's the fast, open descents that scare me a little bit. The consequences of a crash are likely to be so much worse

I don't think we can ever get to a point in the sport where we can stop riders sliding out and hitting guardrails, or touched wheels at 65kph

It just bothers me that someone can crash and be dying in a forest unnoticed , with hour before the medicals get to them

 

[kingjr]

Key questions left unanswered by UCI and David Lappartient after Muriel Furrer's death at Zurich Worlds​

UCI president's press conference in aftermath of fatal crash marked by digressions and deflections

Key questions left unanswered by UCI and David Lappartient after Muriel Furrer's death at Zurich Worlds

UCI president's press conference in aftermath of fatal crash marked by digressions and deflections

www.cyclingnews.com

And he's completely correct

"It will be the job of the police to establish all this," Lappartient said when asked to confirm the circumstances of Furrer's fatal crash. "I will not comment directly about this because there are ongoing investigations from the police, that's their job, I can't answer.

 

[Savant12]

GPS tracking of all riders? All bikes in all pro events to be fitted with GPS so that the organizers and teams know where all their riders are in real time. Is that not a thing now with live tracking available via most head units/apps.