Critérium du Dauphiné 2012 187km Stage 1 Seyssins → Saint-Vallier

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TechnicalDescent said:
Are you sure? Looked like he gave everything to get that yellow today. I think a stage win and holding yellow for a few days was his target for this tour. It's unlikely now that Wiggins will let go of it.

In his interview he said something along the lines of "I like to race".

That is it, don't read any more into it. He will be well behind Wiggins by the end of the Dauphine. Results wise this race is already a success for Evans and it came from a 5mins effort, much better for his Tour prep than going crazy in the TT or on Joux Plane.
 
dlwssonic said:
Are you kidding or what.
He gave everything for that freaking stage win. He does not bother about that yellow!!
So, how do you figure that Sky were bothered, when they clearly weren't, but BMC weren't bothered, but almost took the jersey?
You can't have it both ways.
 
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jens_attacks said:
indeed it was weird,sky definitely wanted to get rid of the jersey.

They didnt have it in first place😉

As I was saying before prologue, Sky don't want yellow here early.

I am preety sure they will loose it tomorrow to Evans or a break.
 
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Mellow Velo said:
So, how do you figure that Sky were bothered, when they clearly weren't, but BMC weren't bothered, but almost took the jersey?
You can't have it both ways.

not saying sky were bothered but I did see a few sky riders at the front chasing.
Maybe there was a miscommunication involved and they just panicked with such a big name GC rider attacking.
 
Nibali is quite angry with himself: " I kept watching today! I should try more at the end! But the shape is growing!"


I agree with him... he's one of the best descender if not the best
 
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El Pistolero said:
Why would he lead Gilbert out? Pretty obvious Gilbert doesn't have the form to win a race right now.

to be fair to him, he did try to get away with LLS. The peloton just would not let them go. However it was a good launching pad for his teammate cadel.
 
Gloin22 said:
They didnt have it in first place😉

As I was saying before prologue, Sky don't want yellow here early.

I am preety sure they will loose it tomorrow to Evans or a break.

totally forgot lol

but durbridge didn't come in the first group so it would have been wiggins in yellow i guess
 
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It maybe that Evans want to win this tour more than Wiggins and will take risks like today in order to achieve this. Wiggins won it last year of course, but if my memory serves me correct, Evans has not even held yellow here.
 
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Haha today was just another example of cadel's bad celebrating skills😱
He was probably too surprised at the finish line to celebrate.
 
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I don't think Sky care about Evans getting a few seconds, but I also don't think they were strong enough to get on the front and pull him back. That trio was riding very hard, no one was letting them go.
 
This is getting a bit silly. Neither BMC nor Sky were racing today out of a desire to get into yellow. Sky were being conservative, helping out a little with the chase but not burning any candles. BMC were racing for the stage win. Neither Wiggins, who has won the Dauphine, nor Evans, who has won the Tour, are going to be motivated by the glorious impossible dream of a few days in yellow at the Dauphine.

Also a bit silly are the various comments about it being a "good sign" that some favoured rider or other made the front group of... 90!
 
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Zinoviev Letter said:
This is getting a bit silly. Neither BMC nor Sky were racing today out of a desire to get into yellow. Sky were being conservative, helping out a little with the chase but not burning any candles. BMC were racing for the stage win. Neither Wiggins, who has won the Dauphine, nor Evans, who has won the Tour, are going to be motivated by the glorious impossible dream of a few days in yellow at the Dauphine.

Also a bit silly are the various comments about it being a "good sign" that some favoured rider or other made the front group of... 90!

Exactly. I think technical descent is a bit confused with the significance of this race.
 
Zinoviev Letter said:
Also a bit silly are the various comments about it being a "good sign" that some favoured rider or other made the front group of... 90!

then you should be thankful that you're not cheering for comets like some of us do.when cobo and kash do things like being there in the first group,that's already a win.
 
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dlwssonic said:
Exactly. I think technical descent is a bit confused with the significance of this race.

It's usually a race that the great champions have a good go at winning at some point in their career. Contador tried hard but failed a couple of years ago. Armstrong won it twice. Going further back, Indurain and Lemond won it. And Evans himself tried very hard to win this in 2009, losing to Valverde. Yeah it's not as important as a grand tour, but I get the feeling Evans really wants to tick off the box on this one, whereas Wiggins has already done it and is solely focused on the TdF. Wiggins won't be taking mad risks on a descent this close to the tour.
 
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TechnicalDescent said:
It maybe that Evans want to win this tour more than Wiggins and will take risks like today in order to achieve this. Wiggins won it last year of course, but if my memory serves me correct, Evans has not even held yellow here.

I suggest you go and look back at previous years then. Perhaps 2009 might be a good year to start.

Honestly now. Evans has worn the leaders jerseys in all three GTs, won the TdF and many major stage races, including TA which is arguably more prestigious.

Can you explain please why he would care for a couple days in yellow at the Dauphine?

I suspect that both BMC and Sky both didn't particularly care about the leaders jersey.
 
jens_attacks said:
then you should be thankful that you're not cheering for comets like some of us do.when cobo and kash do things like being there in the first group,that's already a win.

Kashechkin did more than cruise in with an, ahem, "select" group of 90.

As an aside, the sheer size of that group undermines some people's argument that Sky were just cooked and couldn't chase. There's no way that Wiggins' six helpers in the group were all just hanging on when there so many people still there.
 
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booboo said:
I suggest you go and look back at previous years then. Perhaps 2009 might be a good year to start.

Honestly now. Evans has worn the leaders jerseys in all three GTs, won the TdF and many major stage races, including TA which is arguably more prestigious.

Can you explain please why he would care for a couple days in yellow at the Dauphine?

I suspect that both BMC and Sky both didn't particularly care about the leaders jersey.

Yeah i've moved on to speculating that Evans really wants to win this tour itself. Just wanting yellow was too much of a stretch.
 
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Just got back, missed the stage, sounds like an impressive effort from Cadel.

But I've got to say, it's getting like July on here already, and not in a good way.
 
TechnicalDescent said:
I get the feeling Evans really wants to tick off the box on this one, whereas Wiggins has already done it and is solely focused on the TdF. Wiggins won't be taking mad risks on a descent this close to the tour.
This is a warm up race. Evans is just trying to set a psychological edge on the rest. Wiggins is the only rider who said he came to win Dauphiné.