Critérium du Dauphiné 2012 stage 4, 53.5km, Villié-Morgon-Bourg-en-Bresse, ITT

[Frosty]

EBH at 35 seconds at the 2nd check/

 

[will10]

Iglinsky 5'24" down? Odd, the guy is so powerful!

Probably saving energy for breakaways in the next day or two.

 

[Woody22]

Eddie's time at the second check indicates to me that Durbridge will not win the stage.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Siutsou 6th at the first check.

And 2nd for Eddy and the 2nd checkpoint.

 

[Trunnions]

They withdraw, just like anyone else who quits the race.


To be clear, your (just) is not correct - they're excluded from the full race.

Ah, I see, just like being called onto the bus then.

How is the 25% amount calculated, and is that figure deemed generally fair, or do sprinters grumble at it?

 

[maltiv]

EBH 2nd at the 40 km, 35 seconds behind. That means he has already caught and passed 5 riders, as far as I can tell. Surprisingly good ride by him considering his complete lack of TT training.

Makes me wonder what that kid could do on a TT bike if he actually, you know, trained on it.

 

[webvan]

EBH coming up to 40km, maybe he will take time back on Durbridge.

Not quite, but only lost 21 seconds, vs 30 for Grabsch who must have been the next best performer between 18k and 40k.

 

[Frosty]

Menchov going through 1st split soon.

Edit: 12th

 

[will10]

He won't be gaining any time in the prologue.

I don't get what you're saying? I've accounted for the prologue

 

[DenisMenchov]

+40 DEnis .

 

[markene2]

Kash the mean warmachine is off now!

 

[The Hitch]

To be honest, I didn't know whether to expect something solid, or something pretty poor, given the awkward circumstances.

But if Andy Schleck's name was on that time the mockery would have started already.

Had Andy Schleck had the crash Sanchez did, no way.

Look at Evans 2010 Tour tt to see how much injury can effect a time trial.

 

[webvan]

Menchov going through 1st split soon.

Edit: 12th

Yep, 40 seconds down, not too bad, let's see if he can keep it up.

 

[theyoungest]

EBH 2nd at the 40 km, 35 seconds behind. That means he has already caught and passed 5 riders, as far as I can tell. Surprisingly good ride by him considering his complete lack of TT training.

Makes me wonder what that kid could do on a TT bike if he actually, you know, trained on it.

There are more guys like that. Thomas De Gendt doesn't even do a warmup before a TT. For some guys that just works, maybe if they spend more time on their TT bikes they'll actually do worse.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Ah, I see, just like being called onto the bus then.

How is the 25% amount calculated, and is that figure deemed generally fair, or do sprinters grumble at it?

Plenty of fit weekend riders could make 25%.

The more testing limits are on mountain stages - typically 15% on the toughest stages. Latitude is given when large groups all fail.

 

[dlwssonic]

denis mediocre as usual.
but smashing times by EBH.

 

[Tony Martin brute hero]

Sky is doing well, as expected, Hagen always at the same level in the long TT's, quite funny to see

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

But the Telegraaf guy was actually following him on a moto. Whom do you trust, some guy at the finish line, or a guy who is watching it with his own eyes?

Ray Kerckhoffs is a moron, but I assume he can get at least this right.

letour.fr's version makes more sense considering how much Andy lost between checks 1 and 2.

 

[Forunculo]

Andy lost over 9 min

What % has an ITT?
Can Tony Martin send him out of the race?

 

[Der Effe]

EBH 2nd at the 40 km, 35 seconds behind. That means he has already caught and passed 5 riders, as far as I can tell. Surprisingly good ride by him considering his complete lack of TT training.

Makes me wonder what that kid could do on a TT bike if he actually, you know, trained on it.

I wonder each and every day what that kid could do if he didn't ride for the sh*t team people call Sky.

 

[maltiv]

There are more guys like that. Thomas De Gendt doesn't even do a warmup before a TT. For some guys that just works, maybe if they spend more time on their TT bikes they'll actually do worse.

I doubt that. EBH already has a close to perfect position though, so that carries him a long way. But surely the muscles would benefit from being more used to the position.

However, there's no doubt that training a lot of TT can result in a decline in other abilities.

 

[trevim]

Has to be asked. With 100km oh ITT in the Tour why would Andy bother showing up on start line?

Horner and Kloden need to sit him down and have a chat.

The same Horner that lost 3 minutes to Zabriskie in California? Or the same Kloden that has 45 CQ points this year?
I don't know, just go with Andy, he'll pull something out of the bag

 

[dlwssonic]

Nice time by hincapie, he certainly has some legs left in that tank.

 

[DenisMenchov]

Van Garderen doing great.

 

[hatcher]

The TJVG with a storming start. 4 seconds down only.