Cyclingnews has hit rock bottom --

[Roland Rat]

I'm not an Armstrong fan and I don't hate Greg Lemond, but Lemond is so bitter, has no credibility, has a chip on his shoulder, and is jealous that another American cyclist achieved more than him.

And fat. You forgot fat.

 

[python]

And fat. You forgot fat.

in fact so fat, that some of self-proclaimed 'firm-fence-sitter' want to puke when he opens his mouth

 

[Vonn Brinkman]

I don't see the point of this thread.
If you don't like the feature, don't read it.
You have to remember that this is the most accurate and non-biased cycling website on the whole internet....so if you don't like one article too bad.

 

[NashbarShorts]

Is someone forcing you to read this site and spend time posting here?

Ultimately, as a consumer, your best way for you to show how pathetic something has become is to stop reading it and giving them advertising money.

Ah.., the old "If you don't like it here, why don't you go live in Russia?" argument. Using that logic, I should have followed Sean Hannity's suggestion and moved to Soviet Georgia years ago...

Hey, if the article had been written after Retirement 1.0, it would have been timely.
But to write it now -- when OBVIOUSLY the final chapter (Novitsky?) has yet to be written -- smacks of 'whistling past the graveyard'.

And yes, to write it as a "celebration of his 39th B-day"....I'd say that's a bit hokey.

 

[L'arriviste]

I don't see the point of this thread.
If you don't like the feature, don't read it.
You have to remember that this is the most accurate and non-biased cycling website on the whole internet....so if you don't like one article too bad.

Yes and I wouldn't disagree with your description. But if there were increasing numbers of such articles (notwithstanding the fact that it's off-season now), you could see how all too soon CN would be something other than what you state.

Companies always like to know how their customers think they're doing - feedback is like gold dust and it's the reason why many orgs promote forums like this - and I'm sure publishing companies are no exception.

 

[lean mean &green]

Simply Pathetic.

as some others have suggested, the quotes that were chosen have a sneaky way of mocking him and his talking points. it's nuanced but CN/peter c. deftly play both sides.

i think it's sort of pathetic of CN in a different way than most tho. it looks like an obvious and cheesy attempt to encourage forum debate about very old news. that equals more page views and subsequently equals profit. it's like collecting a bill on a very old account. most are so blind in their love or hate they never know what hit'em. if this thread really takes off peter cossins shouldn't have to pay for his own drinks at the CN happy hour tonite

 

[scribe]

I thought that article was dope, yo.

 

[9000ft]

The only thing I think is pathetic is how long it took this thread to appear. It took at least 3-4 minutes for the spittle to hit the screen.

Man you guys are slipping.

PS: It's just a bunch of quotes. IMO Many of them aren't particularly flattering . Read them and form your own opinion - or don't read it at all if Mr. Armstrong fills you with such loathing.

I think what gets most of you guys is that it's just quotes and no editorializing. Anything that is associated with LA that isn't surrounded with lots of hatered is unacceptable - (ummm lets see if I can remember some of the better ones)..... chamois sniffer, ball (not balls) licking, something that had to do with drooling, I can't remember it exactly but it was a good un - fanboy (of course) drivel. Entertaining I suppose but Man, I don't have near the staying power, endurance, and focus that a lot of you guys have. You guys on some kind of PEDs of something?

Carry on.

 

[The Hitch]

I would agree that calling this pathetic is way ott.

Im no Amrstong fan and yes he doped, but he is the biggest name in our sport and its not unusual for sports to celebrate the birthday of their big names.

Peles birthday is being celebrated with a programme by the bbc, even though his career ended 40 years ago.

Look how Federer and Nadal are treated in tennis. You think P and P are annoyin, try listening to tennis commentators claim that all other sports are falling over themselves in jealousy that tennis has 2 such gods.

You dont even need to go athletics sites to see huge fawning over Usain Bolt.

People unfortunatly like their celebrities, so i dont see whats wrong with a cycling website giving a list of quotes from a cyclist.

 

[docbarber]

BUSH pathetic- BUSHISMS? fascinating

You may not like Lance Armstrong, but as a cyclist you cannot escape his sphere of influence. Why pretend that you should be able to?

Why not appreciate a collection of sayings, from the big man you love to hate, in the spirit of the endlessly fascinating sayings of our most recent former president?

http://politicalhumor.about.com/cs/georgewbush/a/top10bushisms.htm

 

[forty four]

I'm not sure what the issue is here. They did a feature on Lance Armstrong; they've also done features on Mark Cavendish, Bob Stapleton, Peter Stetina and Phil White in the last couple of weeks. So it's not like they only give space to Armstrong, and like it or not, he's the most 'newsworthy' cyclist of all time (in terms of recognizability and sensationalism), so it's natural to see him mentioned occasionally in a news website about cycling.

The only other thing I could think that you'd find pathetic is that you are under the impression that they're pandering to him in some way. As the article was set up to simply say 'here is his career in his own words', it doesn't seem to lean one way or the other. Reading it, actually, kind of made me feel if any intent was behind it it'd be the opposite, because when you pile all those quotes together it sure makes it clear that he's had a lot of people find him suspicious over the years... I felt like 'his own words' in that article cast him in a very poor light, to be honest.

exactly well put. you have to understand that these people who sit at there computers and hate on various top athletes all day are small silly little people not to be taken seriously who failed or never tried in there own athletic endeavors. there the insecure no eye contact in public types lol. once armstrong is long gone these clowns will find some other focus of there misdirected frustration some other athlete its typical and predictable. this is a cycling site there is going to be armstrong related articles get over it or better yet dont read it.

 

[MTDave]

The Kid

He still hasn't retired as often as Favre.

I love the look on his kid's face in the last picture. It will be interesting to see if there will be a dynasty.

Is this in the clinic as a preemptive measure?

 

[goggalor]

Will we be able to order these pearls of wisdom in book form? Preferably something you can carry with you in your pocket at all times, like Mao's Little Red Book.

 

[jae2460]

Ahhh yes, another "I don't really care about Lance, but I am going to post about him and the people who post about him because I really don't care...SERIOUSLY YOU GUYS, I DON'T CARE!!!....I am not even kidding, I DON'T CARE!!!....STOP IT, I DON'T CARE!!!....I mean, if I cared, why would I post on a thread about Armstrong about people who post about Armstrong...wait a minute..." poster.

We need more of those

Thanks for proving my point and demonstrating what I was talking about. Look at your signature line for God's sake...you actually took the time to put anti-Armstrong stuff in your signature line so that EVERY post you make literally is about Armstrong...get a life. Cycling is about more than one guy and whether or not he doped. You're just as bad as the fanboys, you're just on the opposite side but equally annoying and twisted.

 

[Anonymous]

once armstrong is long gone these clowns will find some other focus of there misdirected frustration some other athlete its typical and predictable. this is a cycling site there is going to be armstrong related articles get over it or better yet dont read it.

+1 Thank you!

 

[pmcg76]

Not really bothered by the article, its not totally flattering, hardly patheic.

I dont mind the odd article on Lance now and again. Its the overkill which gets me like when he was on the front cover of Cycle Sport every second month in 2004/2005 and each issue seemed to contain a 10 page feature on him, US postal or whatever, and he barely raced outside of the Tour.

Likewise when he announced his comeback, everyone went crazy and everything was rehashed even though he was only out for 3 years, its not like he was retired for 10/20 years and people wouldnt remember his career.

The only rider I can compare him with is Indurain and I think I saw Indurain interviewed in Englsih langauge Magazines only a handful of times during his reign. There is no comparison, Lance got more coverage in 2-3 months than Indurain or even Contador will get in their careers.

As I said in another thread, Lance is the golden goose and until he goes down, there will always be money to be made of his name, thus the reason why people like Graham Watson suspend ethics to champions him over LeMond. Money always wins in the end.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

as some others have suggested, the quotes that were chosen have a sneaky way of mocking him and his talking points. it's nuanced but CN/peter c. deftly play both sides.

i think it's sort of pathetic of CN in a different way than most tho. it looks like an obvious and cheesy attempt to encourage forum debate about very old news. that equals more page views and subsequently equals profit. it's like collecting a bill on a very old account. most are so blind in their love or hate they never know what hit'em. if this thread really takes off peter cossins shouldn't have to pay for his own drinks at the CN happy hour tonite

I agree - but from a slightly different perspective.

Firstly - the quotes used were neither Pro or Anti - and even though I believe he is past his sell by date, LA still garners much comment.

I agree that the article was written with an eye on provoking comment within here. It is sneaky, yet understandable.
CN is an online news source - it does not have a magazine to earn revenue.
Simplest way to increase traffic is to run some pieces that provoke comment (or just views) in here.

.......and of course we all participated.

 

[180mmCrank]

I agree - but from a slightly different perspective.

Firstly - the quotes used were neither Pro or Anti - and even though I believe he is past his sell by date, LA still garners much comment.

I agree that the article was written with an eye on provoking comment within here. It is sneaky, yet understandable.CN is an online news source - it does not have a magazine to earn revenue.
Simplest way to increase traffic is to run some pieces that provoke comment (or just views) in here.

.......and of course we all participated.

I wish you were right! I am sure that articles are written to drive traffic to the main site. But there has never been any serious response to discussions/questions about what might drive traffic to the forum. It's a bit of a hobbie horse of mine - so believe me when I say this was not the purpose of the article.

 

[Anonymous]

The article today did seem a bit random, but Cyclingnews is anything BUT a pro-Armstrong outlet. If anything, I'd argue the contrary. They made Greg "It wasn't my fault I only won 3 Tours" Lemond a part of their site: http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/greg-lemond And gave him a forum in which to bash Armstrong all he could. Many posters in The Clinic could learn a thing from Lemond on how to squeeze anti-Armstrong sentiment into any topic. Follow the link and see how Greg incorporates Lance into an article about peaking for the Tour de France. Unbelievable horsesh*t--and that horse probably had Clenbuterol in it.
I'm tired of the blindly anti and pro Armstrong crowds; I really couldn't care less. I don't get why people are so into it. He retired, the feds are handling it. Done.

Ahhh yes, another "I don't really care about Lance, but I am going to post about him and the people who post about him because I really don't care...SERIOUSLY YOU GUYS, I DON'T CARE!!!....I am not even kidding, I DON'T CARE!!!....STOP IT, I DON'T CARE!!!....I mean, if I cared, why would I post on a thread about Armstrong about people who post about Armstrong...wait a minute..." poster.

We need more of those

See, I told ya', we already got one...

The only thing I think is pathetic is how long it took this thread to appear. It took at least 3-4 minutes for the spittle to hit the screen.

Man you guys are slipping.

PS: It's just a bunch of quotes. IMO Many of them aren't particularly flattering . Read them and form your own opinion - or don't read it at all if Mr. Armstrong fills you with such loathing.

I think what gets most of you guys is that it's just quotes and no editorializing. Anything that is associated with LA that isn't surrounded with lots of hatered is unacceptable - (ummm lets see if I can remember some of the better ones)..... chamois sniffer, ball (not balls) licking, something that had to do with drooling, I can't remember it exactly but it was a good un - fanboy (of course) drivel. Entertaining I suppose but Man, I don't have near the staying power, endurance, and focus that a lot of you guys have. You guys on some kind of PEDs of something?

Carry on.

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks for proving my point and demonstrating what I was talking about. Look at your signature line for God's sake...you actually took the time to put anti-Armstrong stuff in your signature line so that EVERY post you make literally is about Armstrong...get a life. Cycling is about more than one guy and whether or not he doped. You're just as bad as the fanboys, you're just on the opposite side but equally annoying and twisted.

Yet you have posted twice on this thread...irony much?

And my sig is really in relation to my love of unicorns, see:

 

[Anonymous]

...as for the article, I have no problem with it. The guy is the biggest name in the sport, doing a retrospective of quotes isn't that big of a deal. One thing I will give the guy, he is quotable. I believe most of his quotes to be complete BS, but he is always good for a word, and that never hurt sales for anyone.

 

[Cobblestoned]

Thank you cyclingnews for this great collection of awesome quotes by his Greatness Lance Armstrong !



"It makes absolutely no sense to attack him!" - Jens Voigt about Armstrong

 

[flicker]

Simply Pathetic.

Lance is a model as the French president says about his awesomeness.

How can you criticize such an inspiring individual such as Lance. Lance is truly an inspirational inspiration!

Lances' quotes in cycling news are magnificant!

 

[Digger]

You want to some of the best Lance quotes - I never tire of this article. Sorry to the regulars who have already read it, but I can't resist. The lies, lies and more lies - but the beauty of it is that he can't remember his previous lies.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/345599/lance-armstrong-exclusive-interview.html

 

[Night Rider]

Simply Pathetic.

I clicked the story on the main page and initially thought the same as you, I closed the article again within a few seconds, it's just not my cup of tea reading recycled quotes like that.

Rather than get wound up about it, it just confirms my switch from cyclingnews at the top of my browser favorites for the last few years now dropping of my iphone altogether and ranking down the bottom of my list on desktop pc (over the last two months).

I shall now actually re-direct that link just to the forum section.