The first big dutch rider in eons gets caught and immediately you say all dutch climbers are dopers? 
Man that's ignorant
Man that's ignorant
Dekker_Tifosi said:The first big dutch rider in eons gets caught and immediately you say all dutch climbers are dopers?
Man that's ignorant
If that's me you're referring to, that's not what I said. Apologies if you thought I was tarring people.Dekker_Tifosi said:The first big dutch rider in eons gets caught and immediately you say all dutch climbers are dopers?
Man that's ignorant
Riders use EPO to train harder as well as to race harder. Perhaps he was also using it to boost his HCT to maintain a level that would fool the blood passport?Rothar said:The sample was originally taken on December 24, of 2007
Seems very strange that a sample from December was positive. Why would anybody be on this stuff in the off season. I can only think that he must have just been at or was getting ready for a team training camp.
I too was curious as to the timing - however the statement suggests that the results were received yesterday so.....Mellow Velo said:Can't leave this place for a minute. Here's the UCI press release.
At least Wegelius will now probably get to do what he was paid to do.
http://www.uci.ch/Modules/ENews/ENewsDetails.asp?id=NjQzMw&MenuId=MTYxNw&LangId=1&BackLink=/Templates/UCI/UCI5/layout.asp?MenuID=MTYxNw&LangId=1
The UCI certainly know how to improve the image of it's flagship event.The usual immaculate timing.
What do we all think? One every few days or so, for the next 3 weeks?
Seems like we have a bit of a clue to the nature of that new test....
There is probably confusion of his residence due to the fact that he has his license in Monaco.Parrot23 said:Got it, thanks!
CN says he lives in Monaco in their current story, but I rely on the forums now more for info.
Strange thing: CN seems now like an attachment to the forum (ie. secondary). I get more info. from the forum than the news site.
he used to live (lives) in monaco also. he spents most of the year in lucca i think, but might have a monaco license.Susan Westemeyer said:The UCI seems to think he holds a license in Monaco. That would indicate he lives there, or that they think he does. Otherweise the Mon. Cycling Federation wouldn't have authority to conduct proceedings against him.
Susan
No. The reason Rabo let him go is that he wasn't getting results and , therefore his doping became a liability that was too risky for them. Rabo knew about Rasmussen but only dropped a dime on him when the lights got too hot at the tour and the sponsor said enough. Menchov is another and I'm thinking if there is a big name to go down this summer it will be him. Rabobank, Lotto and Quick Step all drink from the same pond and have bad habits that are longstanding.Timmy-loves-Rabo said:basso and dekker case are different, risk still but different risk. you would assume (and i think he is) that basso is a clean rider now, and kudos to him.
But dekker come on, his situation was pretty suspicious, that's why rabobank let him go. They had to assume better and advanced testing would come into the picture.
Not trying to blame S-L, it certainly wasn't thier fault, all im saying it was a really stupid move picking up dekker.
(ps my biased attitude towards Rabobank is no different to your biased attitude with S-L/Evans)
Actually, he got consecutive top 5s (as a 23 year old) in Amstel, Flèche (and 6th in Liége) within the same week, plus 3rd overall in the basque countrySheltowee said:No. The reason Rabo let him go is that he wasn't getting results and , therefore his doping became a liability that was too risky for them.
Believe me, I was editor of his websiteSusan Westemeyer said:The UCI seems to think he holds a license in Monaco. That would indicate he lives there, or that they think he does. Otherweise the Mon. Cycling Federation wouldn't have authority to conduct proceedings against him.
Susan
No, because he quit Cecchini already in february 07Bala Verde said:So this was a december 2007 sample... Man they sure have a back log at WADA!
That also means that, gradually, we are getting closer and closer to some more recent samples. Perhaps they will even make it in time to release some results from the Giro samples from 2008...
Can't wait to see who will be exposed!!!
Back to Dekker, when was he forced by RAB to cut his ties with Checcini? Could it be that his 2007 positive has something to do with the fact that he wasn't seeing a top doctor anymore?
Mongol_Waaijer said:However the bad news is that many (most of) the other "talents" and big name riders have not declined in form or ability in the last few years. Has there been a big switch to old fashioned blood transfusions (as Kohl suggests) or some sort of as yet unknown new product and TD was not part of this evolution?
Maybe I have missed something here I dont think this is to do with WADA. Was it not through the UCI bio-passport that the UCI asked for retesting of Dekkers sample?Bala Verde said:So this was a december 2007 sample... Man they sure have a back log at WADA!
Actually I think is good news for cycling. Don't be so hard on yourself.Belokki said:one word:
FUUUCKK!!!
another blow for cycling![]()