Dimension Data

[sniper]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr4dumwz7QI
I love the body language.

Here's a tutoriol if anyone needs it:
http://www.blifaloo.com/info/lies.php

Hilarious!

This guy is such a nobrainer.
This entire team is a nobrainer.
Brain Cookson's own little project.
Growing cycling in South Africa.
Help Jr. make a carreer.

 

[Ferminal]

The whole weight thing and being at the end of a break is more to the point.

Cummings has always seemed like a guy who would be pretty organised in preparation. Remember Malhao, back when Sky were ***. Not sure it says anything about the teams he has ridden on.

This is kinda amusing though, Barloworld the small team of honest hard working Africans taking Europe by storm, not.

http://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=10427

 

[The Hegelian]

'He can rest and chill in the back while others work hard every day.'

No, in the first week Cummings worked more than anyone in the break yesterday except van Avermaet.

'He is really clever and experienced and knows exactly how to win from breaks.'

Maybe but he is always so much physically superior that it doesn't matter.

Yeah, that's the key point - as an opportunist with pursuit pedigree, you'd expect the odd Ekimov type win. i.e. high speed, short duration attacks in the finale. But even with genuine pedigree they are bloody hard to pull off. I'd say one big race every 2-3 years if the talent is there. Not easy to hold off a raging peloton.

But the same kind of rider gaining time on climbers up a first cat????

The only word is: ridiculous.

There a lot of other ex-pursuiters of his generation who are basically domestique fodder. Compare Durbridge and Hepburn to Cummings and Thomas! Something ain't right...

 

[DirtyWorks]

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Brain Cookson's own little project.
Growing cycling in South Africa.
Help Jr. make a carreer.

Again, Africa (a very big place) has been a long-term project for the UCI. It certainly predates Cookson. Once upon a time the UCI published news about their progress in African nations, including mention of a visit to Lausanne by Chris Froome for testing.

I would argue the reason is to find new fools/money to spend on cycling like Dimension Data more than anything else. Lots of billionaire hobbyists out there.

 

[veganrob]

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410W for 30 minutes is not excessive at all, especially for a former track specialist. Sure the numbers are high but its still within the realms of believable.

Except it was up a Cat 1 climb and not a track, but hey lets not let details get in the way. :lol:

that changes nothing if you can push 410 w for 30 min on the flat, you can do the same in the mountains.

I don't know how much experience you've got riding a bike, but putting out the watts on a flat road is very different to putting out the watts on climbs, especially higher gradients.

For example, I find it a lot easier to work at a higher power on flat roads than on steeper roads

it really does depend on the individual. I find I can maintain a bit higher power going uphill. Maybe muscle type has something to do with it.

 

[Mr.38%]

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It's a bit of a giggle isn't it?!

I'm sure he'll drop off in the next two days, he has doped for his one win of the Tour.

It must be possible to target and nail these suspicious people. We need some platform for leaks, hope Seppelts idea gets a grip. Have the inofficial test results from lab staff in a public domain, steroid profiles, dodgy behaviour and all that. It's all there, let the armchair scientists do their work.

 

[Fergoose]

Worth noting that Navarro, a former GT top 10, remains in good form, almost keeping in touch with the pace of Dumoulin and Majka on Sunday just days after being destroyed by Cummings on a climb of similar gradient. I think it's really important to keep an open mind but I'm struggling badly to do that with our Mr Cummings.

 

[DFA123]

Just turned on the stage today, saw the likes of Sagan, GVA, Nibali, EBH and Matthews had made it into the break. A couple of minutes later, noticed Cummings was also there and, without really thinking about it, my mind automatically made him favourite for the stage.

That's how ridiculous this guy has become, at 35.

 

[ciranda]

They have no chance. Add Dekker 2001, Zaballa 2004, Luis Leon Sanchez 2012 and Pascal Richard 1996 to that break and it wouldn't even matter.

 

[DFA123]

The interesting thing will be he how he decides to win it. Whether to drop everyone on the climb and solo the finish, or play it cool on the climb, and then just ride everyone off his wheel on the run in to the line.

 

[DFA123]

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The interesting thing will be he how he decides to win it. Whether to drop everyone on the climb and solo the finish, or play it cool on the climb, and then just ride everyone off his wheel on the run in to the line.

Looks like he got caught out by a tactical error. Shame, I guess it's a bit more difficult to prepare for making the split than it is for putting out long 500w attacks.

 

[Benotti69]

Cavendish showed his true colours today to French cameramen who were videoing him using the mavic car to get up to the bunch. A funny gif has been made of it.

Been hanging around Wiggins too long.

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/752882325638307840

roid rage...

 

[kwikki]

And for a more complete picture have a look here:

http://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cycling/watch-i-took-a-pss-mark-cavendish-fumes-at-nosy-tour-de-france-cameraman-after-going-to-the-toilet-34877937.html

Cavendish took a moment to urinate from his saddle during this afternoon's ride, but he couldn't help but notice a cameraman loitering VERY close to his bike while he did so.

Two riders complaining, not just Cavendish, after being filmed having a piss.

 

[Benotti69]

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And for a more complete picture have a look here:

http://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cycling/watch-i-took-a-pss-mark-cavendish-fumes-at-nosy-tour-de-france-cameraman-after-going-to-the-toilet-34877937.html

Cavendish took a moment to urinate from his saddle during this afternoon's ride, but he couldn't help but notice a cameraman loitering VERY close to his bike while he did so.

Two riders complaining, not just Cavendish, after being filmed having a piss.

The full story, is Cav saying " I took a p!$$, I took a p!$$". There was no footage of Cav taking it. The footage is off Cav using cars to get back! hence his anger.

 

[kwikki]

That isn't the full story as reported in the Irish times, though. And the lack of broadcast footage does not mean that there is no footage.

The Irish times says he pissed whilst riding, and noticed a cameraman hanging around whilst he did it.

I don't like being filmed whilst pissing. Do you?

 

[Benotti69]

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That isn't the full story as reported in the Irish times, though. And the lack of broadcast footage does not mean that there is no footage.

The Irish times says he pissed whilst riding, and noticed a cameraman hanging around whilst he did it.

I don't like being filmed whilst pissing. Do you?

So who is the source? Cav, team DDD or France 2?

Cav was off the back of the peloton trying to get back.

He was using the car for a long time.

it appeared to me he was pissed of at the cameraman videoing Cav using the car.

 

[kwikki]

Could be. But the Irish times reports differently. Who was the other rider? Was it Eisel?

 

[kwikki]

It's called bonding

 

[adamfo]

Some of the chauvinistic French press have it in for Cavendish
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.liberation.fr%2Fsports%2F2016%2F07%2F16%2Fmark-cavendish-sous-haute-surveillance_1466646

 

[vedrafjord]

They're probably right considering Cav and Eisel were 5 minutes behind the grupetto half way up the final climb on stage 8 but managed to finish with them. Either the grupetto took it very, very easy in the last 20km despite not being far off the time cut themselves, or more likely...

I presume there'd still be a fair crowd of people with cameraphones on the Peyresourde 40 mins after the leaders went by though?

 

[BYOP88]

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They're probably right considering Cav and Eisel were 5 minutes behind the grupetto half way up the final climb on stage 8 but managed to finish with them. Either the grupetto took it very, very easy in the last 20km despite not being far off the time cut themselves, or more likely...

I presume there'd still be a fair crowd of people with cameraphones on the Peyresourde 40 mins after the leaders went by though?

Cav's been doing a lot of training on the track and we all know what happens to Brits who ride track then ride road =awesome climbers.

:razz:

 

[Benotti69]

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They're probably right considering Cav and Eisel were 5 minutes behind the grupetto half way up the final climb on stage 8 but managed to finish with them. Either the grupetto took it very, very easy in the last 20km despite not being far off the time cut themselves, or more likely...

I presume there'd still be a fair crowd of people with cameraphones on the Peyresourde 40 mins after the leaders went by though?

Cav's been doing a lot of training on the track and we all know what happens to Brits who ride track then ride road =awesome climbers.

:razz:

If Cav can keep up his track stuff and get that big engine roaring, then lose the inner fat, boy would he fly up mountains :lol:

 

[Lyon]

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They're probably right considering Cav and Eisel were 5 minutes behind the grupetto half way up the final climb on stage 8 but managed to finish with them. Either the grupetto took it very, very easy in the last 20km despite not being far off the time cut themselves, or more likely...

I presume there'd still be a fair crowd of people with cameraphones on the Peyresourde 40 mins after the leaders went by though?

Cav's been doing a lot of training on the track and we all know what happens to Brits who ride track then ride road =awesome climbers.

:razz:

This track cyclist turned mountain goat HAHAHA! is getting old and is a typical example of clinic logic.

After all, if you can already do something for a minute or two it only stands to reason that with a little bit of British grit and dedication you can eventually do it for 5 hours. Don't believe me? Walsh (yes, that Walsh!) has said that when Froome was just a toddler he lacked the coordination to even walk from the potty to the refrigerator for some well needed refreshments (maybe not that surprising as they where so poor they had to actually use their neighbors refrigerator - and even if he could walk that distance it wouldn't matter anyway as they couldn't afford food in the first place - and even if they had been able to afford said food the hyenas would already have eaten it - or, if not the hyenas then the lions) but only a few years later he could walk all the way to school, untied laces and all. How's that for dedication?

QED

 

[BYOP88]

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They're probably right considering Cav and Eisel were 5 minutes behind the grupetto half way up the final climb on stage 8 but managed to finish with them. Either the grupetto took it very, very easy in the last 20km despite not being far off the time cut themselves, or more likely...

I presume there'd still be a fair crowd of people with cameraphones on the Peyresourde 40 mins after the leaders went by though?

Cav's been doing a lot of training on the track and we all know what happens to Brits who ride track then ride road =awesome climbers.

:razz:

This track cyclist turned mountain goat HAHAHA! is getting old and is a typical example of clinic logic.

After all, if you can already do something for a minute or two it only stands to reason that with a little bit of British grit and dedication you can eventually do it for 5 hours. Don't believe me? Walsh (yes, that Walsh!) has said that when Froome was just a toddler he lacked the coordination to even walk from the potty to the refrigerator for some well needed refreshments (maybe not that surprising as they where so poor they had to actually use their neighbors refrigerator - and even if he could walk that distance it wouldn't matter anyway as they couldn't afford food in the first place - and even if they had been able to afford said food the hyenas would already have eaten it - or, if not the hyenas then the lions) but only a few years later he could walk all the way to school, untied laces and all. How's that for dedication?

QED

The track thing was tongue in check, hence the :razz:

Not sure if the anecdote about the Froome's being poor is in jest or not? But he went to a nice school in South Africa and his brothers went to Rugby school in the UK. So money wasn't an issue for the family Froome, I'm sure all Kenyan families would like to send their children to Rugby or St. Andrew's School.

 

[adamfo]

I was surprised to find out how low the fees at Rugby are. Half of those of some other well known schools.
https://www.rugbyschool.co.uk/admissions/fees/