Dimension Data

[thehog]

Cummings, 410w for 30m 55sec, 5.90w p/kg, no drafting!

Impressive for this new young rider from Dimension Data :lol:

 

[sniper]

Cookson: We see some of the underdogs, if I can call them that, in the peloton coming up and getting stage wins. People like Steve Cummings, Simon Geschke. That has been great to see.

QS: You mentioned Steve Cummings’ win. It has been a huge Tour for MTN-Qhubeka. This whole continent is taking off now. What are your thoughts on that?

Cookson: It is absolutely great. It is really exciting for us at the UCI. We have got five ex World Cycling Centre trainees in the Tour de France doing great rides. It is great to see the guys from Africa, South America and various parts of the world coming through now.

We are seeing cycling globalised a lot more strongly now. It is going to take time, perhaps we have lagged behind other sports in that, but I think it is really exciting. For instance, in the way that Daniel Teklehaimanot has been received by the crowds and the media and so has been absolutely enthralling and rewarding for those of us who want to see cycling grow as a global sport

http://cyclingtips.com/2015/08/a-conversation-with-uci-president-brian-cookson-tour-de-france-froome-mtn-qhubeka-night-time-testing-motors-and-more/

 

[hfer07]

Cummings, 410w for 30m 55sec, 5.90w p/kg, no drafting!

Impressive for this new young rider from Dimension Data :lol:

there.......

I actually like Cummings a lot-but when performance like that come along, is difficult not to raise serious questions. The SC defenders seem to forget he made up the gap IN THE MOUNTAIN - A FULL MINUTE! IOW So now suddenly Stephen can hold his ground among the goat climbers - ala "G" ?

Not Normal...

 

[sniper]

Re:

https://youtu.be/K02id-nOz_o?t=7m26s
At 7:30 his thumb goes to the G spot

if that button is meaningless, as some here want to believe, it is all the more remarkable that guys like cummings and froome have the awareness to press that allegedly meaningless button right before the finish line, just having solo'd their way to said finish line.

 

[Tienus]

Cummings, 410w for 30m 55sec, 5.90w p/kg, no drafting!

Impressive for this new young rider from Dimension Data :lol:

Is this just the data from the climb?
If so its even more impressive after that attack before the climb.

 

[PremierAndrew]

Cummings, 410w for 30m 55sec, 5.90w p/kg, no drafting!

Impressive for this new young rider from Dimension Data :lol:

Who would have thought that Oli Cookson, the spanish speaker, would have had such a positive effect

 

[Tienus]

Isn't this just the sort of plucky move that we like to see in cycling?

Who would have been the deserving clean winner, if not Cummings?

With the UCI knowing when and where there is going to be motordope testing they can help any team they like.

 

[Tienus]

Thierry Braillard has been stating that today there was a surprise control at the Col d’Aspin. The leaders where actually checked on the flat when they still had to ride 80km.
http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/07/tour-de-france/tour-notebook-thermal-motor-checks-yates-stitches_413876

 

[Ramon Koran]

410W for 30 minutes is not excessive at all, especially for a former track specialist. Sure the numbers are high but its still within the realms of believable.

 

[PremierAndrew]

Re:

410W for 30 minutes is not excessive at all, especially for a former track specialist. Sure the numbers are high but its still within the realms of believable.

For an elite cyclist, sure, it's believable. But for someone like Cummings, who didn't have anywhere near this much success until 2015?

5.6W/kg is definitely believable, but if I managed to pull out 5.6W/kg for 30 minutes within just a month from now, I'll share a little secret with you, I wouldn't be doing that without significant doping and probably some help from a motor too

 

[Ramon Koran]

Re: Re:

410W for 30 minutes is not excessive at all, especially for a former track specialist. Sure the numbers are high but its still within the realms of believable.

For an elite cyclist, sure, it's believable. But for someone like Cummings, who didn't have anywhere near this much success until 2015?

5.6W/kg is definitely believable, but if I managed to pull out 5.6W/kg for 30 minutes within just a month from now, I'll share a little secret with you, I wouldn't be doing that without significant doping and probably some help from a motor too

Cummings has been an elite rider for a decade on the track. Sure his performances are suspicious but most ikely down to weight loss which probably acheived thanks to PED's. However talk about motors is nonsense with thermal imaging being organised. No way can you hide mototrized doping no more.

 

[Remmie123]

Re: Re:

410W for 30 minutes is not excessive at all, especially for a former track specialist. Sure the numbers are high but its still within the realms of believable.

For an elite cyclist, sure, it's believable. But for someone like Cummings, who didn't have anywhere near this much success until 2015?

5.6W/kg is definitely believable, but if I managed to pull out 5.6W/kg for 30 minutes within just a month from now, I'll share a little secret with you, I wouldn't be doing that without significant doping and probably some help from a motor too

Cummings has been an elite rider for a decade on the track. Sure his performances are suspicious but most ikely down to weight loss which probably acheived thanks to PED's. However talk about motors is nonsense with thermal imaging being organised. No way can you hide mototrized doping no more.

The thermal checks today were all done very blatantly (motorbike driving up alongside) and on the flat. Assuming he had a motor, of course thermal technology would not show anything at this point, It does make it look like they checked though.

 

[Benotti69]

Re:

410W for 30 minutes is not excessive at all, especially for a former track specialist. Sure the numbers are high but its still within the realms of believable.

Except it was up a Cat 1 climb and not a track, but hey lets not let details get in the way. :lol:

 

[Ramon Koran]

Re: Re:

410W for 30 minutes is not excessive at all, especially for a former track specialist. Sure the numbers are high but its still within the realms of believable.

Except it was up a Cat 1 climb and not a track, but hey lets not let details get in the way. :lol:

that changes nothing if you can push 410 w for 30 min on the flat, you can do the same in the mountains.

 

[Tienus]

Except it was up a Cat 1 climb and not a track, but hey lets not let details get in the way

If you would have paid attention during the race you would have noticed that he rode exactly like he would in a 4km individual pursuit on the flat leading to that climb.

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

410W for 30 minutes is not excessive at all, especially for a former track specialist. Sure the numbers are high but its still within the realms of believable.

Except it was up a Cat 1 climb and not a track, but hey lets not let details get in the way. :lol:

that changes nothing if you can push 410 w for 30 min on the flat, you can do the same in the mountains.

Amazing Cummings dropping climbers on a cat 1, oh wait this is pro cycling and I remember Indurain making Robert Millar look like he was going backwards on a climb. Cummings clean? as a cesspit.

 

[kwikki]

None of them are. Why are you acting as if you are surprised and outraged by one individual?

 

[The Hegelian]

I personally reserve my outrage for fat asses that suddenly become adept at outclimbing goats.

And so, the outrage is so.....

 

[El Pistolero]

Stephen Cummings could have podiumed the Giro with numbers like that. Assuming he could keep it up for 3 weeks of course. Ridiculously high numbers for a 35 year old non-climber who only had 8 professional wins (of which 6 were small shitty wins as Cav would say) before 2016. 4 wins in 2016 already, all in high profile WT races.

 

[thehog]

Re:

Stephen Cummings could have podiumed the Giro with numbers like that. Assuming he could keep it up for 3 weeks of course. Ridiculously high numbers for a 35 year old non-climber who only had 8 professional wins (of which 6 were small shitty wins as Cav would say) before 2016. 4 wins in 2016 already, all in high profile WT races.

It's a bit of a giggle isn't it?!

I'm sure he'll drop off in the next two days, he has doped for his one win of the Tour.

 

[Galic Ho]

Re: Re:

Isn't this just the sort of plucky move that we like to see in cycling?

Who would have been the deserving clean winner, if not Cummings?

Ricco

Halfway up the Aspen, my mind wandered back to 2008 and a long distance attacking move by The Cobra.

Then it struck me, that was where he dropped a bag of hurt on the entire peloton. Good times. I want to see him return. It would be AWESOME!!

 

[nogav1ca]

Re: Re:

410W for 30 minutes is not excessive at all, especially for a former track specialist. Sure the numbers are high but its still within the realms of believable.

Except it was up a Cat 1 climb and not a track, but hey lets not let details get in the way. :lol:

that changes nothing if you can push 410 w for 30 min on the flat, you can do the same in the mountains.

Not really. Personally I find it harder to hold certain watts on a flat than on a climb. And I'm not the only one.

 

[ciranda]

'He can rest and chill in the back while others work hard every day.'

No, in the first week Cummings worked more than anyone in the break yesterday except van Avermaet.

'He is really clever and experienced and knows exactly how to win from breaks.'

Maybe but he is always so much physically superior that it doesn't matter.

 

[Tienus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr4dumwz7QI
I love the body language.

Here's a tutoriol if anyone needs it:
http://www.blifaloo.com/info/lies.php

 

[PremierAndrew]

Re: Re:

410W for 30 minutes is not excessive at all, especially for a former track specialist. Sure the numbers are high but its still within the realms of believable.

Except it was up a Cat 1 climb and not a track, but hey lets not let details get in the way. :lol:

that changes nothing if you can push 410 w for 30 min on the flat, you can do the same in the mountains.

I don't know how much experience you've got riding a bike, but putting out the watts on a flat road is very different to putting out the watts on climbs, especially higher gradients.

For example, I find it a lot easier to work at a higher power on flat roads than on steeper roads