discussion!!! contador

[thirteen]

where exactly? he sucked in every itt he rode this year, including in this years tour ttt. pathetic sight it was

you can't really count this year's TTT. he didn't really ride it -- he just sucked Cancellara's wheel

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I speak the truth. Contador hasn't been dominant in a TdF time trial in at least 2 years. Please keep trying to add something constructive to the forum.

there;s only 1 tour every year and last year was only 1 itt, if you don't count the prologue, where contador humiliated the schlecks btw so basically he rode 1 bad itt in his entire tour career, wow!

also contadors itt last year was clearly a fluke as he finished 8th or something while he usually wins or comes close to winning every itt he rides, so expect no less this year

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

you can't really count this year's TTT. he didn't really ride it -- he just sucked Cancellara's wheel

exactly my point

 

[Jux1893]

He can still win it. I think, and I hope, he doesn't.

 

[tdfChamp]

Agreed on Basso. Pre-tour I put money on him 40-1 it's down to 15-1 now. I also got Cunego to podium at 50-1 that one is 9-1 now.

Whilst Cunego is now 9-1 he is still relatively weak time trial wise and is unlikely to get past either of the Sclecks,Evans or Contador so he would have to have a super mountain stage (maybe Alpe Duez) to have any chance.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

my money is on basso winning tour and podium, samu podium, samu's stage win yesterday and both of them ending in front of evans in stage and gc and uran for white man this is another great tour

 

[movingtarget]

If Contador loses more time before the alps he is done. At the moment it's possible for him to still win but improbable. I don't think it's just his knee. It's the crashes plus the Giro as well. Added together, it's not looking good. How anyone could consider Cunego for the podium is beyond me considering the way he rides in time trials. If Contador improves, God knows what will happen in the TT especially with the way the Schlecks go in TT's as well. Basso and Evans would be happy with their positions on GC and I don't think Sanchez can be counted out either. I was surprised the favourites let Sanchez get a lead of over one minute at one stage. He could be dangerous later in the race and is a much better time triallist than most of the other GC riders.

 

[tdfChamp]

my money is on basso winning tour and podium, samu podium, samu's stage win yesterday and both of them ending in front of evans in stage and gc and uran for white man this is another great tour

Samu for podium? are you on crack?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

why? he will be in the best 3 or 4 climbers this tour and has excellent itt, better than anyone in front of him except contador

 

[tdfChamp]

Maybe top 10 but no way podium.

 

[hrotha]

Maybe top 10 but no way podium.

Hmm, hello? He was 4th last year?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Maybe top 10 but no way podium.

he was 4th last year and without his crash he would've been third against better opponents so

let me guess, you are america/anglophone and have registered before the tour and act here like you know anything

 

[tdfChamp]

he was 4th last year and without his crash he would've been third against better opponents so


He got lucky and how can you say better opponents? Basso is in form, Evans is in form, Schlecks and Contador here again. If we didnt have the crashes we have had we would have also added to this list Wiggins, Vino and the otehr half of Radioshak.

let me guess, you are america/anglophone and have registered before the tour


I'm a Brit for that matter and have never been bothered with the forum boards before until now.

and act here like you know anything

Can you tell me how you might know more than me?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Can you tell me how you might know more than me?

because I'm a cyclinganimal since 1995. I'm the one who made and still does the eurotour database. it's almost or entirely sick but I know a lot about cycling and riders

 

[hrotha]

He got lucky? When? When he lost time on the cobbles, or when he almost caught up to Andy and Contador in that descent, but came some 10-15 seconds short so he ended up losing more time in the last kms? Maybe he got lucky when he was 7th in 2008? Or the two times he's been on the Vuelta podium?

 

[its like that]

He has absolutely no chance of winning. Even a blind man can see he is struggling

 

[tdfChamp]

because I'm a cyclinganimal since 1995. I'm the one who made and still does the eurotour database. it's almost or entirely sick but I know a lot about cycling and riders

Still its all a matter of opinion really.

 

[Parrulo]

i love how the july crowds thinks so highly of themselves

 

[tdfChamp]

i love how the july crowds thinks so highly of themselves

Says the man who only joined the forum 11 months ago. We gotta join at some time....

 

[Ramira]

Considering that when Alberto Contador was at his very best he took 1 minute 44 in the time trial on Andy Schleck. The fact that he lost 13 seconds to Andy yesterday, more then he took on him all of last years tour. And the fact he's already 1 minute 43 behind Andy I don't see any way he will overtake Andy. I'm not saying Andy will win for sure but I'll take an avatar bet on the fact that without a crash Contador will not finish ahead of Andy.

And that's not even taking into account the fact that with his injuries and the Giro is in his legs he's unlikely to reach his top form this Tour making it completely improbable. For me this tour is now between the Brothers Schleck and Evans (if he doesn't crack, it's not that likely but possible), with Basso and Contador with a shot at the podium.

 

[Anonymous]

Considering that when Alberto Contador was at his very best he took 1 minute 44 in the time trial on Andy Schleck. The fact that he lost 13 seconds to Andy yesterday, more then he took on him all of last years tour. And the fact he's already 1 minute 43 behind Andy I don't see any way he will overtake Andy. I'm not saying Andy will win for sure but I'll take an avatar bet on the fact that without a crash Contador will not finish ahead of Andy.

And that's not even taking into account the fact that with his injuries and the Giro is in his legs he's unlikely to reach his top form this Tour making it completely improbable. For me this tour is now between the Brothers Schleck and Evans (if he doesn't crack, it's not that likely but possible), with Basso and Contador with a shot at the podium.

Ok, you will use a Bieber avatar?

 

[Ramira]

Ok, you will use a Bieber avatar?

No!! It has to be cycling related! Just the fact that I need to have a picture of that Bieber twit on my pc to make it my avatar means I can never ever do that . But I'll take anything cycling related, I guess some form of Contador is probably most fitting.

 

[spanky wanderlust]

Says the man who only joined the forum 11 months ago. We gotta join at some time....

you have not yet learned that the posters here are the ultimate arbiters of all things good and true in cycling. it is not important that this is reflected in the opinions that they post here. it is simply enough to state it for the newbies. some are especially cool.

you can tell how cool they are because they post all year round. the coolest make 50-100 posts a day and are very concerned with how many posts they have. because that's how you know how knowledgeable they are.

you can also tell how cool they are because they don't like the tour. it is a boring mainstream painful diversion for them in july, the dead month between the giro and late summer classics. they go on and on and on about how cool the giro is. and they make fun of you for actually thinking it is awesome. because that's how you know how knowledgeable they are about cycling .

it's ok. you are learning. when you get to about a 1000 posts you will start to hate the tour too. and then you can make fun of other people that like it. then everyone will know how much you know.

 

[Parrulo]

Says the man who only joined the forum 11 months ago. We gotta join at some time....

doesn't make me a member of the july crowd aka people that register in july spend the entire tour posting like some sort of expert and then vanish for a whole year where they don't watch a single cycling race(i mean there are no races outside of july) and then come back the next tour helping us(people who watch the entire season) understanding the race a bit better with their expert comments

 

[Archibald]

I'm willing to accept the knee injury as a factor, but not the Giro.
No way you'd go with entering the Tour if you didn't think you'd still be strong enough after the Giro. If menchov can top ten in both in the same year then there's no reason Contador couldn't do better - far better.