Doping In Athletics

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Koch.

Mclaughlin can break this record

 

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Not surprisingly, yet another marathon runner who "played with fire" and paid the consequences:

Bahraini marathon runner Kimutai suspended three years for doping

Bahraini marathon runner Marius Kimutai has been suspended three years for doping after testing positive for the banned substance EPO.

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Thanks for posting this. Surprised they mention did not have a TUE for EPO? How could they possibly even allow TUEs for blood boosting products?

 

[Sciatic]

Mclaughlin can break this record

I would enjoy seeing that.

 

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I would enjoy seeing that.

Very hard to do that , and i dont know if she will run hurdles or flat.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Mclaughlin can break this record

She needs to actually run races to do that. It's been very frustrating the last couple of years. She'd be a great draw for the sport if she ran more, and outside of just a few select events in the US.

Very hard to do that , and i dont know if she will run hurdles or flat.

Her aim before the injury was to do the flat, most of the press still seems to point in that direction, but I don't know if when she gets back to competition that will change.

 

[BullsFan22]

Jurgen Schult's record was one of the best in any sport in history, his technique is incredible to watch, juiced to the gills on some of that good East-German sh*t of course, they all ended up falling apart due to Turinabol abuse, I can't believe it was beaten.

I still think El Guerrouj's 1500m is the greatest, perhaps the Women's 100m, but there were question marks about wind speed iirc.

Daniel Komen’s 3000m world record from 1996.

 

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She needs to actually run races to do that. It's been very frustrating the last couple of years. She'd be a great draw for the sport if she ran more, and outside of just a few select events in the US.

Her aim before the injury was to do the flat, most of the press still seems to point in that direction, but I don't know if when she gets back to competition that will change.

A lot people complain about her lack of races, there are fans who found it very fishy that she almost doesnt race. Lets not forget who is her coach… strange situation

 

[Libertine Seguros]

A lot people complain about her lack of races, there are fans who found it very fishy that she almost doesnt race. Lets not forget who is her coach… strange situation

Only ever runs at home events, super-peaks at major championships, has a suspicious coach, recurrent undisclosed or ambiguous injury and illness issues... it's very easy to see why people would suspect her.

At the same time, there's a lot of people who are a bit fed up of the status quo in those events. Femke Bol runs rings around everybody and has beaten everybody other than McLaughlin with ease so many times over that there's no competition left, but no matter what she achieves, every result is greeted by arguments that McLaughlin would have done it better if she was there, and that along with the fact we never get to see them run head to head results in a fair amount of resentment towards McLaughlin that leads people to view those things mentioned above through a more negative prism.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Thanks for posting this. Surprised they mention did not have a TUE for EPO? How could they possibly even allow TUEs for blood boosting products?

I thought surely there must have been some kind of an error in the wording in the article or whatnot, but nope, it actually says in the official ruling that Kimutai had no TUE for EPO while at the same time stating that EPO is prohibited at all times by WADA. Crikes, we all know cycling is nuts, but track and field sure does its best to contend. 🤣

Here's the official ruling:

https://www.athleticsintegrity.org/downloads/pdfs/disciplinary-process/en/AIU-24-54-KIMUTAI-Decision61.pdf

 

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I thought surely there must have been some kind of an error in the wording or whatnot, but nope, it actually says in the official ruling that Kimutai had no TUE for EPO while at the same time stating that EPO is prohibited at all times by WADA. Crikes, we all know cycling is nuts, but track and field sure does its best to contend. 🤣

Here's the official ruling:

https://www.athleticsintegrity.org/downloads/pdfs/disciplinary-process/en/AIU-24-54-KIMUTAI-Decision61.pdf

Wow, thanks for the details. I know there are many reasons for getting treatment with EPO—I’ve been getting it for 6 months. I guess it would be possible got an athlete to have have some kidney damage (kidneys produce our natural EPO) or cancer that required EPO to treat anemia, but those issues would have had to be resolved by the time they are back at the elite competitive level? Just weird.

 

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I thought surely there must have been some kind of an error in the wording or whatnot, but nope, it actually says in the official ruling that Kimutai had no TUE for EPO while at the same time stating that EPO is prohibited at all times by WADA. Crikes, we all know cycling is nuts, but track and field sure does its best to contend. 🤣

Here's the official ruling:

https://www.athleticsintegrity.org/downloads/pdfs/disciplinary-process/en/AIU-24-54-KIMUTAI-Decision61.pdf

It’s not a very well worded official decision document: there are some punctuation errors and it doesn’t make sense to simply state there was a violation for “the detection of EPO.” We all have EPO; so the violation has to be for the presence of a recombinant EPO product.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

It’s not a very well worded official decision document: there are some punctuation errors and it doesn’t make sense to simply state there was a violation for “the detection of EPO.” We all have EPO; so the violation has to be for the presence of a recombinant EPO product.

Maybe it was just a generic form where they fill in the blanks (instead of EPO it could be any other medication which could actually be taken with a TUE), it's poorly worded for sure.

 

[Nomad]

Kenyan runner Kwemoi banned 6 years for blood doping and stripped of Olympics, world champs results

Kenyan 10,000-meter runner Rodgers Kwemoi has been banned for six years for suspected blood doping 18 times.

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An ABP hematological-anomalies case. 40 blood samples taken over a period of 7 yrs (2016-2023). Several samples with high OFF-scores at or around the time of key competitions.

Stripped of his bronze medal at the 2018 Commonwealth games, 7th place finish at the Tokyo Olympics & 4th place finish at the 2019 WC.

 

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Kenyan runner Kwemoi banned 6 years for blood doping and stripped of Olympics, world champs results

Kenyan 10,000-meter runner Rodgers Kwemoi has been banned for six years for suspected blood doping 18 times.

apnews.com

An ABP hematological-anomalies case. 40 blood samples taken over a period of 7 yrs (2016-2023). Several samples with high OFF-scores at or around the time of key competitions.

Stripped of his bronze medal at the 2018 Commonwealth games, 7th place finish at the Tokyo Olympics & 4th place finish at the 2019 WC.

While it seems to have proven effective in this case, it also shows the futility of the ABP alone as an anti-doping tool. Yes, he has been banned, but only after 18 instances of probable blood manipulation over 7 years. And the ban could still get overturned (if he has a stable of lawyers like Froome did) because if a lack of physical evidence.

 

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While it seems to have proven effective in this case, it also shows the futility of the ABP alone as an anti-doping tool. Yes, he has been banned, but only after 18 instances of probable blood manipulation over 7 years. And the ban could still get overturned (if he has a stable of lawyers like Froome did) because if a lack of physical evidence.

Makes me wonder how many riders and athletes have instances of blood manipulation identified in their APBs but not enough of them to bring a case (announce a violation against them)?

 

[Rob5091]

While it seems to have proven effective in this case, it also shows the futility of the ABP alone as an anti-doping tool. Yes, he has been banned, but only after 18 instances of probable blood manipulation over 7 years. And the ban could still get overturned (if he has a stable of lawyers like Froome did) because if a lack of physical evidence.

17 times is ok, but 18? No, now you've gone too far!

 

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17 times is ok, but 18? No, now you've gone too far!

Exactly

 

[Aragon]

While it seems to have proven effective in this case, it also shows the futility of the ABP alone as an anti-doping tool. Yes, he has been banned, but only after 18 instances of probable blood manipulation over 7 years. And the ban could still get overturned (if he has a stable of lawyers like Froome did) because if a lack of physical evidence.

If the main goal of anti-doping is to hamper blood doping use and subsequently limit the advantage of dopers and to protect their health, then ABP is a fine tool.

Maybe a reason it catches next-to-nobody is that it forces to be relatively conservative with the blood doping - program, which is a good thing.

 

[Nomad]

Good point on the blood doping. As far as the other two modules (steroidal & hormonal), they're exclusively used for target testing. I have yet to see any steroidal or hormonal "anomalies" cases put together against an athlete whether a distance runner, sprinter, field athlete, etc.

I think the majority of these anabolic steroid, testosterone & growth hormone positives are the result of target testing - especially OOC positives. If an athlete starts using an anabolic steroid (s) or testosterone, you're going to see fluctuations on the ABP with the T/E ratio, DHT, estradiol, LH, FSH, etc - all suggesting suspicion of PED use.

No doper in his right mind is going to be glowing IC. Lol. But target that doper OOC or during their leadup to competition & you have a better shot at a positive.

 

[Nomad]

Bol phone had doping information says WADA

Secret details aired

www.google.com

Tested positive for EPO in Jan/2023 but "B" sample was negative & no doping case was pursued. Screenshot was found when anti-doping authorities confiscated his phone. 800m specialist - made finals at Tokyo Olympics.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

They need to start specifying Peter when they talk about his doping case. They could save so much cardiac health in the Netherlands.

 

[Nomad]

Teenage sprinter, Issamade Asinga, banned four years for doping

American teenage sprinter, Issamade Asinga, banned four years for doping by the Athletics Integrity Unit

athleticsillustrated.com

U20 WR holder in the 100m. Tested positive OOC for metabolites of GW1516. Asinga claimed that the Gatorade "gummie bears" he received at a race was contaminated.

Tests showed that the gummies bears he kept contained traces of GW1516 on the outside, but very little on the inside.

Furthermore, the batch of gummies bears in question was tested by a certified lab showing no presence of GW1516.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Teenage sprinter, Issamade Asinga, banned four years for doping

American teenage sprinter, Issamade Asinga, banned four years for doping by the Athletics Integrity Unit

athleticsillustrated.com

U20 WR holder in the 100m. Tested positive OOC for metabolites of GW1516. Asinga claimed that the Gatorade "gummie bears" he received at a race was contaminated.

Tests showed that the gummies bears he kept contained traces of GW1516 on the outside, but very little on the inside.

Furthermore, the batch of gummies bears in question was tested by a certified lab showing no presence of GW1516.

Only a naive teenager (or an idiot) could get busted for something like this. Easy to detect and multiple weeks of glowing times.
It's usually sold alongside Sarms by all those sgady online shops who have gymbros as their target audience.

 

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Only a naive teenager (or an idiot) could get busted for something like this. Easy to detect and multiple weeks of glowing times.
It's usually sold alongside Sarms by all those sgady online shops who have gymbros as their target audience.

Yup, and his father as a former national-level sprinter should have known that.

 

[Nomad]

Only a naive teenager (or an idiot) could get busted for something like this. Easy to detect and multiple weeks of glowing times.
It's usually sold alongside Sarms by all those sgady online shops who have gymbros as their target audience.

A very long glow time: A paper published in Drug Test Analysis said GW1516 can be detected in the urine for up to 40 days after a single oral dose of 15 mg.

What a wasted talent. The kid has run 9.89 & 19.97, which was already 44th & 91st on the all-time fastest list. A bright future & some were calling him the next "Usain Bolt."