Doping In Athletics

[Slavique Nuke]

That ball crossed the line in 66, just like Maradona's hand of god in 86 did, Im sure the South Americans don't forget that one either, so they both counted.

and England didn't get the world cup simply because they assumed it was a fair contest, when clearly it isn't.

Decent article on how scummy and corrupt the 1966 FIFA World Cup was - https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...orld-cup-final-conspiracy-refereeing-50-years

 

[BullsFan22]

Whatever keeps you going

You’re the one complaining about corruption when you don’t get your way

 

[Slavique Nuke]

White american dude third in the 10km. Nike is in full *** mode again

 

[kingjr]

White american dude third in the 10km. Nike is in full *** mode again

Not even his PB though

 

[Slavique Nuke]

Not even his PB though

Ethiopians had some strange tactics after 7 kilometres, there was a slowish 1km. Such major races are often tactical and PBs are usually achieved in random events.

 

[kingjr]

Ethiopians had some strange tactics after 7 kilometres, there was a slowish 1km. Such major races are often tactical and PBs are usually achieved in random events.

What's your point, then, that Fisher shouldn't have been able to run a 26:43?

 

[Slavique Nuke]

What's your point, then, that Fisher shouldn't have been able to run a 26:43?

I laughed at third place, not the time. So, what's your point?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Not even his PB though

The problem is often that the US scene is fairly insular and you can do a decent athletic career only running in the US outside of major championships. Many Americans who succeed and do the main international calendar all season, like Ryan Crouser, Chase Jackson, Shamier Little, Valarie Allman or Noah Lyles, people see their level all the time, but because a lot of those American events don't get TV time or any presence to international audiences, athletes whose main calendar is domestic or who only run selected events internationally are harder to get a handle on their capabilities for much of the viewership and set expectations. America's history and the fact people like Chemical Bob are still around means that these athletes are very likely to cause some raised eyebrows if they pop up with medals, at least unless they're a Sydney McLaughlin type outlier. Maybe not so much as from a less well-established national calendar, but nevertheless you have to view skepticism through the prism of somebody without access to watching the US meets.

 

[fenns]

some very strange behaviour from Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce - withdrawing from the 100m in very odd circumstances

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[Libertine Seguros]

As if to illustrate my point, USA put two steeplechasers and a hammer thrower who haven't competed since the US trials and haven't competed outside the US all season through auto-qualification. None of them are nobodies, but somebody outside the US will have only seen them at all if they watched the Eugene DL. Constien barely runs - has about 4 or 5 times a year - and has only run outside the USA once since Tokyo. Wayment runs more frequently, but only did one DL last season, in Zürich, and one Continental Tour ahead of the Worlds in Budapest; and in 2022 she only did one race outside the US. Finally we have Marisa Howard, who apart from two entries at the Pan-American Games last ran outside the USA in 2017.

Howard is a bit of a wildcardand indeed did not make it through, but the other two are well established runners - but for anybody not in the USA where these domestic events get any coverage, you could be forgiven for thinking they came out of nowhere.

And then Jasmine Jones wins her 400mh heat at a canter, having only ever run outside the USA once before, at the Pan-American U20 championships in 2019. She's clearly fast, and she's young, with super results on the domestic circuit. But anybody who follows athletics but is not from the USA will never have had the chance to see her run, so for those she will look like a complete out-of-nowhere magic appearance.

 

[meat puppet]

some very strange behaviour from Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce - withdrawing from the 100m in very odd circumstances

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News reports say hamstring injury. If it's real, no point running. But what are the odds circumstances?

 

[ppanther92]

News reports say hamstring injury. If it's real, no point running. But what are the odds circumstances?

And now add Shericka Jackson minutes before the run.

I could believe one occurrence (although both had a strange timing) but not 2…

 

[awavey]

News reports say hamstring injury. If it's real, no point running. But what are the odds circumstances?

well it was first claimed on social media she was barred entry to the stadium, that then turned into she was told to use a different gate to enter the warm up track, that then became from the Jamaican team she got an injury in the warm up.

and all oddly none of which she mentions in her own statement on social media, just that she was disappointed, but feels blessed.

if her hamstring popped, she wont be running in anything more in these games, yet none of the media are reporting thats it for her.

 

[meat puppet]

well it was first claimed on social media she was barred entry to the stadium, that then turned into she was told to use a different gate to enter the warm up track, that then became from the Jamaican team she got an injury in the warm up.

and all oddly none of which she mentions in her own statement on social media, just that she was disappointed, but feels blessed.

if her hamstring popped, she wont be running in anything more in these games, yet none of the media are reporting thats it for her.

Thanks!

 

[Slavique Nuke]

As if to illustrate my point, USA put two steeplechasers and a hammer thrower who haven't competed since the US trials and haven't competed outside the US all season through auto-qualification.....

There is nothing suspicious about this. They stay at home all year round, in a comfortable domestic environment far away from foreign anti-doping agencies.

 

[Tim Cahill]

If her name was Femkex Ling-Bol they'd have her frogmarched out in front of the press to answer all sorts of questions, wtf was that.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

If her name was Femkex Ling-Bol they'd have her frogmarched out in front of the press to answer all sorts of questions, wtf was that.

As opposed to the woman that likely beats her in her specialist discipline after taking a year off, breaking records left right and centre running about three times a year, never outside her homeland and uses Flo-Jo's coach, of course.

 

[fenns]

well it was first claimed on social media she was barred entry to the stadium, that then turned into she was told to use a different gate to enter the warm up track, that then became from the Jamaican team she got an injury in the warm up.

and all oddly none of which she mentions in her own statement on social media, just that she was disappointed, but feels blessed.

if her hamstring popped, she wont be running in anything more in these games, yet none of the media are reporting thats it for her.

so she must have injured her hamstring in warm-up. but the story seems more complicated than that

 

[awavey]

Well don't worry if any world records are set tonight it's because the track is made out of crushed mussels shells...

 

[masking_agent]

so she must have injured her hamstring in warm-up. but the story seems more complicated than that

I agree. I think she was "glowing" and didn't get enough masking agents in her system, so coach told her she had to fake something

 

[Sciatic]

I agree. I think she was "glowing" and didn't get enough masking agents in her system, so coach told her she had to fake something

The fact that two Jamaican sprinters, not just one, pulled out with late injuries does create a bit of suspicion. On the other hand sprinters are so muscle/bound and do such explosive efforts does lead to injuries.

 

[Nomad]

And the fact she's 37 yrs old - which is ancient for a world-class sprinter.

 

[veganrob]

ARD doc with English subtitles, watch quickly before it gets DMCA'd

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPQQG28RBJI&list=PLzvFVztIETWCIGdeO_Pgk7dbYwOdPC7CS&index=6

Tipped off’ athletes, non-sanctioned doping cases : Spain's sabotage of the fight against doping

For decades, Spain has been criticised for its half-hearted anti-doping efforts. The Olympic Games in Paris has revealed the full extent of the failure

www.sportschau.de

"In the undercover footage, Fuentes boasted that he is still up to date on contemporary blood doping methods: "I don't do it anymore, but I know others that do it. They no longer infuse a whole bag of blood, because that would show up in your blood profile. They only use half a bag. Or they even divide it into thirds. Instead of the full amount of 500 millilitres, 150 millilitres are administered on the first day, 150 millilitres again five days later, and another 150 millilitres after ten days. So, it's a progressive increase. That way the values don't change!""

Great. A must watch.

 

[Nomad]

I agree. I think she was "glowing" and didn't get enough masking agents in her system, so coach told her she had to fake something

Do you think she's that stupid to do IC doping during of all the places the Olympic games? 90% of the athletes were tested the day before the games (all T&F athletes were tested). I presume she wasn't glowing because she passed the test (They announced one failure - and the first of the games - with the Iraqi martial artist who tested positive for 3 separate anabolic steroids).

She's a veteran of 4 Olympic games having won Gold at Beijing & medaling at London, Rio & Toyko. She's was a favorite to medal in these games & was going to retire afterwards. I can't believe she would be that dumb to blow her grand finale & last competition of her career.

 

[awavey]

Do you think she's that stupid to do IC doping during of all the places the Olympic games? 90% of the athletes were tested the day before the games (all T&F athletes were tested). I presume she wasn't glowing because she passed the test (They announced one failure - and the first of the games - with the Iraqi martial artist who tested positive for 3 separate anabolic steroids).

She's a veteran of 4 Olympic games having won Gold at Beijing & medaling at London, Rio & Toyko. She's was a favorite to medal in these games & was going to retire afterwards. I can't believe she would be that dumb to blow her grand finale & last competition of her career.

I long ago stopped believing in the "they wouldnt be that stupid would they?" angle, plenty of people do stupid things all the time, pro athletes however experienced are no different. we had a race decided by 5 thousandths of a second, yet half the runners had chunky watches and even chunkier jewellery, cos I guess you have to look that bling when running the 100m...

whether there was a doping reason behind it, I wouldnt like to say I dont follow the sport closely enough to know which of them just have that old stand out glow about them, but it feels an odd conflated situation, like they were looking for an argument and a reason to get upset about something. maybe theyd had a bad day sleeping on those cardboard beds.