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Doping In Athletics

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How does Kenya have a ‘systematic’ doping program when most of their coaches are European and they don’t really train as a federation?

This term is so vague and it’s been so overused over the years.
Kenya's IOC turning a blind eye, similar to Jamaican IOC. The coaches, and all the staff of doctors, who trained these athletes hide and protect them.

 
more like clear like water as there's nothing but 100% pure clean "urine" . Gotta give it to the US IOC and their doping program. They have it down pat once again.
This is like, even more than usual though. Like, we expect to see Americans on top at the Olympics, but we're seeing people set gargantuan PBs, people who have never run outside the US winning medals, people winning medals in hurdles races despite hitting almost every hurdle full on, and athletes who are generally pretty nondescript on the Diamond League suddenly pulling out all the stops and beating the people who comfortably defeat them all ends up all season long every season. I expect to shake my head a bit sometimes, but this has been flat out preposterous.

And doing it on a day when a news story breaks about them suppressing positives and letting athletes who test positive at home events continue to compete without notifying WADA in exchange for becoming informants on other dopers (which dopers have been caught by this information, exactly?), it just seems doubly egregious.
 
This is like, even more than usual though. Like, we expect to see Americans on top at the Olympics, but we're seeing people set gargantuan PBs, people who have never run outside the US winning medals, people winning medals in hurdles races despite hitting almost every hurdle full on, and athletes who are generally pretty nondescript on the Diamond League suddenly pulling out all the stops and beating the people who comfortably defeat them all ends up all season long every season. I expect to shake my head a bit sometimes, but this has been flat out preposterous.

And doing it on a day when a news story breaks about them suppressing positives and letting athletes who test positive at home events continue to compete without notifying WADA in exchange for becoming informants on other dopers (which dopers have been caught by this information, exactly?), it just seems doubly egregious.

“One of hundreds…”

 
yes I think she's that stupid. Could be pressure from her doctor for another blood bag ? Or some type of injection.
C'mon man, she's a veteran of four previous Olympics where she was able to circumvent the testing process & come out unscathed. I doubt anything would have changed in her program putting her at a risk of testing positive or blowing her ABP.

Furthermore, Fraser-Pryce has a significant injury history & injured this same hamstring during the 4×100 relay in last year's WC where she was sent to the hospital.


You understand that dopers can still get injured & can have bad days at the office?
 
I was reading the posts in this thread without actually taking note of who wrote them, but having finished reading this one, especially the ending, it was immediately clear to me who wrote it... and boy, was I right. Some things never change...
The dismissive arrogance is quite something. Carl Lewis has an Olympic gold medal in that 100metre sprint because the other doper who utterly obliterated him at Seoul got caught and he didn’t.
Who cares if I failed three tests during the 1988 US Olympic trials says Lewis. Plenty do since you benefitted from Johnson getting caught Mr hypocrite.
 
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The dismissive arrogance is quite something. Carl Lewis has an Olympic gold medal in that 100metre sprint because the other doper who utterly obliterated him at Seoul got caught and he didn’t.
Who cares if I failed three tests during the 1988 US Olympic trials says Lewis. Plenty do since you benefitted from Johnson getting caught Mr hypocrite.
To be fair though, Calvin Smith is the only guy in that final that hasn't tested positive for anything in his career, then or later. CBC did a documentary on it for the 25th anniversary and there's a book on it by the British journalist and ex-cyclist Richard Moore (who most of us probably know better for In Search of Robert Millar and the Cycling Podcast) called The Dirtiest Race in History - between the two we have had IOC officials stating that there were 20 T&F athletes who were cleared during those Games, not just those who were cleared before like Lewis.

Calvin Smith in that era is kind of like an equivalent to Carlos Sastre - it's hard to believe that he might have been competing clean in that era, but the fact there is nothing against his name despite competing for a nation who have a very bad reputation for doping at that point means he does sometimes get clung on to as a beacon of hope.
 
To be fair though, Calvin Smith is the only guy in that final that hasn't tested positive for anything in his career, then or later. CBC did a documentary on it for the 25th anniversary and there's a book on it by the British journalist and ex-cyclist Richard Moore (who most of us probably know better for In Search of Robert Millar and the Cycling Podcast) called The Dirtiest Race in History - between the two we have had IOC officials stating that there were 20 T&F athletes who were cleared during those Games, not just those who were cleared before like Lewis.

Calvin Smith in that era is kind of like an equivalent to Carlos Sastre - it's hard to believe that he might have been competing clean in that era, but the fact there is nothing against his name despite competing for a nation who have a very bad reputation for doping at that point means he does sometimes get clung on to as a beacon of hope.
Yes Calvin Smith held the 100metres world record for a nearly decade at 9.93. Lewis ran 9.92 in the ‘88 Olympic final behind Johnson. If you look at the times they only started making big inroads below 10 seconds after Calvin Smith. Then we saw sub 9.9 regularly.
 
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Surprised at this. 8 seconds over 10,000 isn’t huge, it’s the Olympic Games and Battocletti is only 24. Not saying she isn’t doping but her performance at Paris seems feasible to me?
I generally agree, her previous PB was at the European Championships in June where she was front runner for most the race and by far the strongest. 8 seconds is, what, 0.5% of an improvement?

Obviously, it's long distance track running, so nobody can say it's clean, but it's not a crazy performance. If she'd suddenly run sub 30:00 then it would have been ridiculous but going from 30:51 to 30:44 in a stronger field is not crazy.
 
Yes Calvin Smith held the 100metres world record for a nearly decade at 9.93. Lewis ran 9.92 in the ‘88 Olympic final behind Johnson. If you look at the times they only started making big inroads below 10 seconds after Calvin Smith. Then we saw sub 9.9 regularly.
At the 1991 World Athletics Championships, there was a huge shift when six men in the final ran under 10 seconds, a sign of things to come—a trend that is now regular.
 
Clutching at straws now? I bet you half wished he did that, so that you could continue with your usual agenda, alas, he did not provide enough material for more than just this last effort of yours...
It's okay, we still have Florence McLaughlin-Levrone to keep the comedy up.

For the record, I don't believe she is not insanely naturally gifted, the times she was running at 15-16 prove that. But what she's doing now, and having Bob Kersee as coach, if you're buying it, I have some seafront property in Missouri to sell you.
 
Sifan Hassan winning the Olympic marathon gold must be up there with one of the greatest of human endurance feats given that she competed and won bronze medals in both the 5k and 10k races this week.

Mind you there were plenty of other jaw dropping performances this week and yet barely no athletes failed a doping test so the sport must be cleaner than ever.
 
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Certainly makes the already somewhat suspect Tokyo silver for Kalkidan Gezahegne even more suspect in context.

She was a good junior 1500m runner back representing Ethiopia, then switched to Bahrain in 2013. She runs three races in 2013 and only one in 2014, although she DNSes both races on the Diamond League she does and her most significant result is a 4th in the Golden Spike at Ostrava, a Continental Tour Gold event. She then has zero IAAF-sanctioned results until 2017, when she runs the 5000m at Prefontaine and the World Championships, scoring 14th in the final. She wins the Asian Games 1500m and 5000m in 2018 and is 2nd in the West Asian Games in both, behind two fellow Ethiopian-born Bahraini athletes.

And then she disappears off the grid and doesn't run anywhere at all for two straight years (2020 of course being somewhat explicable with Covid pandemic restrictions, but nevertheless, it's not the first time for her), then returns in 2021, coming 2nd in two Continental Tour 10000m races, a discipline she'd never competed in before (at least not on track), one in Maia, Portugal (a Challenger event, the fourth tier of Continental competition) and one in Montreuil (a Continental Tour bronze event, the third tier), before staying with Letesenbet Gidey as she upped the pace time and again, dropping everybody bar Gezahegne and eventual winner Sifan Hassan, ending up some 30 seconds ahead of Hellen Obiri in 4th (who set her PB at the time then as well) and taking home a shiny new silver medal while the commentators questioned who she was and where she had come from since she'd never even done any college racing, any US racing, any Diamond Leagues or any racing against competitors even remotely close to this level before, and she was 30 years old so hardly a brand new revelation either.

And since then? She did two more 10ks, but these being road races, breaking the world record for the road 10k at the Geneva meet. And she hasn't run competitively since.