Doping In Athletics

[Lyon]

Re:

http://www.sub2hrs.com/news-events/record-run-in-rio-just-the-start-for-ayana/
After going full *** with Ayana in RIo Hermens and Pitsiladis are now going for a sub 2hr marathon runner. The best thing about this is that they seem to want to do it clean. At least thats what I assume when I look at the list of partners, its an interesting list so far:
http://www.sub2hrs.com/our-partners/
-The Dutch anti doping agency
-South African anti doping agency
-Sportwise and uni of Brighton / Nick Webborn:
Nick also has wide experience in anti-doping and has been a member of the International Paralympic Committee's anti-doping subcommittee and is a chair of the UK Sport therapeutic use exemption committee.
-Pitsiladis himself has been funded by WADA for anti doping research http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/13151197._Perfect__anti_doping_test_in_sight/

There are more interesting partners on the list espescially wrt sports medicine.

Maybe they can fit Conconi in there too? He knows how to play both sides of the fence. Learn from the master. Then, again, maybe there is nothing more to learn?

 

[sniper]

Swart is there.
Damsgaard, Catlin and Bermon would be great additions too.
Maybe bjorn Ekblom, Bengt Saltin and Yorck "freiburg" Schumacher can be fit in as well.
Together that's a shitload of antidoping experience.

 

[Nellyspania]

Don't have a road accident, you might be prescribed EPO in hospital.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/37775762

 

[sniper]

Don't have a road accident, you might be prescribed EPO in hospital.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/37775762

BBC, boy o boy.
From the link:

Kenya has been in the spotlight for the past two years after a German television programme claimed many athletes from the east African nation are doping.

Newsflash. The same programme also implicated three unnamed British runners.
http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1039423/kenyan-and-british-athletes-accused-of-using-epo-at-iten-training-camp

 

[Irondan]

Don't have a road accident, you might be prescribed EPO in hospital.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/37775762

Jeptoo, 33, says she may have been prescribed banned substances at a local hospital after a road accident.

She's claiming that she was given rEPO after a car accident? Wow! She really thinks everyone's stupid...

Blaming her cat would have been a better defense but hey, who am I to judge.

 

[BullsFan22]

Don't have a road accident, you might be prescribed EPO in hospital.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/37775762

Jeptoo, 33, says she may have been prescribed banned substances at a local hospital after a road accident.

She's claiming that she was given rEPO after a car accident? Wow! She really thinks everyone's stupid...

Blaming her cat would have been a better defense but hey, who am I to judge.

Armstrong should have used a similar excuse prior to 2012/2013: "I was blood doping, taking steroids, EPO and micro dosing while recovering from cancer. All of that just stuck with me and they detected. It was just THAT powerful." He could have been the "Obelix." Anyone born and raised in Europe would know exactly what I am talking about.

 

[Nomad]

Don't have a road accident, you might be prescribed EPO in hospital.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/37775762

BBC, boy o boy.
From the link:

Kenya has been in the spotlight for the past two years after a German television programme claimed many athletes from the east African nation are doping.

Newsflash. The same programme also implicated three unnamed British runners.
http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1039423/kenyan-and-british-athletes-accused-of-using-epo-at-iten-training-camp

The Kenyan distance running problem is egregious:

A reported *40* doping postives since 2011 and allegations of bribery & corruption ("Athletics doping: Kenya misses WADA deadline." Dan Roan/BBC Sports/021116):

http://m.bbc.com/sport/athletics/35551486

And to make matters worse, neither Kenya nor Ethiopia are part of the ABP program because of no WADA-accredited labs in the region to conduct the blood tests.

IMO, this has just exacerbated the already unlevel playing field the Kenyans have with their genetic advantage in distance running. The Kenyans cleaned-up in Rio with 13 medals in athletics (12 in running & 1 in the javelin). They set two (2) Olympic records (men's steeplechase & women's 5000), won Gold in both the men's & women's marathon, and Rudisha repeated as the 800 winner.

A real "level playing field" when the Kenyans show up in full force. Lol. But it was comforting to know that those "dreaded" Russians were banned from athletics...wouldn't want them to take any of those medals away from the Kenyans. If Kenya & Ethiopia don't have be to part of ABP program then other nations shouldn't have to be either...it might just level the playing field a tad bit.

 

[Norks74]

Don't have a road accident, you might be prescribed EPO in hospital.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/37775762

Jeptoo, 33, says she may have been prescribed banned substances at a local hospital after a road accident.

She's claiming that she was given rEPO after a car accident? Wow! She really thinks everyone's stupid...

Blaming her cat would have been a better defense but hey, who am I to judge.

Armstrong should have used a similar excuse prior to 2012/2013: "I was blood doping, taking steroids, EPO and micro dosing while recovering from cancer. All of that just stuck with me and they detected. It was just THAT powerful." He could have been the "Obelix." Anyone born and raised in Europe would know exactly what I am talking about.

Obelix! Asterix? Excellent stuff. I must get my kids reading those comics.

 

[Nellyspania]

Don't have a road accident, you might be prescribed EPO in hospital.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/37775762

BBC, boy o boy.
From the link:

Kenya has been in the spotlight for the past two years after a German television programme claimed many athletes from the east African nation are doping.

Newsflash. The same programme also implicated three unnamed British runners.
http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1039423/kenyan-and-british-athletes-accused-of-using-epo-at-iten-training-camp

The Kenyan distance running problem is egregious:

A reported *40* doping postives since 2011 and allegations of bribery & corruption ("Athletics doping: Kenya misses WADA deadline." Dan Roan/BBC Sports/021116):

http://m.bbc.com/sport/athletics/35551486

And to make matters worse, neither Kenya nor Ethiopia are part of the ABP program because of no WADA-accredited labs in the region to conduct the blood tests.

IMO, this has just exacerbated the already unlevel playing field the Kenyans have with their genetic advantage in distance running. The Kenyans cleaned-up in Rio with 13 medals in athletics (12 in running & 1 in the javelin). They set two (2) Olympic records (men's steeplechase & women's 5000), won Gold in both the men's & women's marathon, and Rudisha repeated as the 800 winner.

A real "level playing field" when the Kenyans show up in full force. Lol. But it was comforting to know that those "dreaded" Russians were banned from athletics...wouldn't want them to take any of those medals away from the Kenyans. If Kenya & Ethiopia don't have be to part of ABP program then other nations shouldn't have to be either...it might just level the playing field a tad bit.

I didn't know that, thanks.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Don't have a road accident, you might be prescribed EPO in hospital.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/37775762

Jeptoo, 33, says she may have been prescribed banned substances at a local hospital after a road accident.

She's claiming that she was given rEPO after a car accident? Wow! She really thinks everyone's stupid...

Blaming her cat would have been a better defense but hey, who am I to judge.

Armstrong should have used a similar excuse prior to 2012/2013: "I was blood doping, taking steroids, EPO and micro dosing while recovering from cancer. All of that just stuck with me and they detected. It was just THAT powerful." He could have been the "Obelix." Anyone born and raised in Europe would know exactly what I am talking about.

You're thinking of Rumsas who fell into a pot of EPO when he was a child.

 

[BullsFan22]

Don't have a road accident, you might be prescribed EPO in hospital.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/37775762

Jeptoo, 33, says she may have been prescribed banned substances at a local hospital after a road accident.

She's claiming that she was given rEPO after a car accident? Wow! She really thinks everyone's stupid...

Blaming her cat would have been a better defense but hey, who am I to judge.

Armstrong should have used a similar excuse prior to 2012/2013: "I was blood doping, taking steroids, EPO and micro dosing while recovering from cancer. All of that just stuck with me and they detected. It was just THAT powerful." He could have been the "Obelix." Anyone born and raised in Europe would know exactly what I am talking about.

You're thinking of Rumsas who fell into a pot of EPO when he was a child.

Yep. Great example.

 

[Robert5091]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/04/sports/marathon-doping-investigation.html
Officials are scrutinizing the agent, Andrey Baranov, on suspicion of bribery and corruption, according to several people familiar with the case who requested anonymity because the investigation was continuing.

The investigators are looking into whether Mr. Baranov conspired with American marathon organizers — including New York City Marathon officials — to allow athletes using banned substances to compete in their events.

Mr. Baranov has not been charged with any crimes, and he has in the past been depicted as a whistle-blower who exposed cheating and corruption in track and field. It is not clear how far along the government is in its investigation.

 

[Robert5091]

http://www.dn.se/sport/moten-vantar-for-aregawi/
Abeba Aregawi - done for meldonium then freed because of amount - is back in Stockholm for talks with her former club and the national team.

 

[yaco]

Aregawi is yet another athlete who had their year ruined because of the incompetence of WADA - WADA are not fit for the role.

 

[noddy69]

Re:

Aregawi is yet another athlete who had their year ruined because of the incompetence of WADA - WADA are not fit for the role.

Is this not a case of she was caught cheating and should be out but is back in due to the incompetence of WADA rather than her year is ruined ! The drug that wasn't cheating- but actually was but due to numbers using WADA wont do anything.

 

[Robert5091]

Just a follow on to the Abeba Aregawi story of a return - Manager of Swedens National Athletes Team (Förbundskapten) Karin Torneklint reckons with her racing next year in London's World Championships.

http://www.runblogrun.com/2016/02/deep-thoughts-on-abeba-aregawi-by-larry-eder.html
"That Abeba Aregawi is a drug cheat is sad. Many have thought, for some time, that Aregawi was a cheat. Sad to see that they were right.

That Aregawi was allowed to run for Sweden when she was a) married to two different men at same time, one in Ethiopia and one in Sweden, b) not living in Sweden, c) cheating on taxes as she surely made much more than was ever taxed means she is a liar and cheat in most of her life. Cheating via doping is just another stopping point on the depravity highway."

 

[Robert5091]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/38017277
2008 Beijing Olympics medal winners among 16 athletes banned for doping

The IOC has been retesting samples from both the Beijing and London Games and it brings the total of banned athletes from 2008 to 76.

 

[movingtarget]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/38017277
2008 Beijing Olympics medal winners among 16 athletes banned for doping

The IOC has been retesting samples from both the Beijing and London Games and it brings the total of banned athletes from 2008 to 76.

Dear God some of them were Russian ! Only one was not from from a former Soviet country. Just as well there is no such thing as government sanctioned doping in that part of the world.

 

[gooner]

Research conducted by French daily newspaper Le Monde and German broadcaster ARD suggests that extortion, dubious financial transactions and other mafia-style practices have been employed in international athletics over a period of many years.

Leading representatives of the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) are believed to have deliberately ignored highly suspicious blood test results for at least six top athletes since 2011 – each in return receiving payments of between €300,000 and €700,000. The organized cover-up of suspected doping in the world of track and field has as such assumed a previously unimagined scale. And once again it is primarily athletes from one nation under scrutiny: Russia.

The revelations come from documents in the possession of the Paris prosecutors' office for financial crimes, which had launched investigations in the aftermath of a report by ARD in 2014. At the time, Russian long-distance runner Liliya Shobukhova was the sole athlete under investigation. Since then, however, the investigators have uncovered a far wider picture; after likewise recording suspicious doping tests, walkers Valeriy Borchin, Olga Kaniskina, Vladimir Kanaikin, Sergey Kirdyapkin, and steeplechase runner Yuliya Zaripova – all Russian – are believed to have been blackmailed by IAAF dignitaries.

The investigators’ files show that following payment, the IAAF consequently ignored the conspicuous blood data; the Russian athletes were thus free to compete in and win medals at the Olympics, World Championships and other international competitions. According to the documents seen by ARD, these six individuals are part of a list of 23 athletes whose names appear in a document in connection with doping cover-ups.

http://www.sportschau.de/weitere/leichtathletik/leichtathletik-korruption-schutzgeld-russland-englische-version-100.html

 

[Zebadeedee]

A corrupt organisation like the IAAF is certainly not going to limit application of its business model i.e extortion, to a single athlete. It's plain common sense that the crooks will apply their criminal methods to amass as much wealth as they can, particularly once they have it nicely set up and know that fellow travellers like Coe aren't going to rock the boat and will turn a suitably blind eye. You milk a system opportunistically for what you can.

The obvious question for investigators is whether any athletes from other nations beside Russia were involved. Coe's silence and looking the other way implicitly engages him in the corruption too. The bribe taken by his sidekick manifestly makes his involvement explicit in my view. .

 

[BullsFan22]

Re:

A corrupt organisation like the IAAF is certainly not going to limit application of its business model i.e extortion, to a single athlete. It's plain common sense that the crooks will apply their criminal methods to amass as much wealth as they can, particularly once they have it nicely set up and know that fellow travellers like Coe aren't going to rock the boat and will turn a suitably blind eye. You milk a system opportunistically for what you can.

The obvious question for investigators is whether any athletes from other nations beside Russia were involved. Coe's silence and looking the other way implicitly engages him in the corruption too. The bribe taken by his sidekick manifestly makes his involvement explicit in my view. .

I don't doubt for one second that there are entire federations, not just groups of individuals being involved in exact or very similar bribes. Russia is being singled out purely for political purposes, not because of doping. I'll be honest, I haven't seen a single documentary of ARD (german state media, btw), but the endless reports are simply to politically single out the Russians. I mean notice how vicious the German media is in general to anything Russia-related in these past few years. This just trickles down to sports as well. Even if someone is neutral, they are singled out as 'russian propagators or stooges.' Look at the EU parliament for goodness sakes.

 

[sniper]

I very much welcome the fact that ARD are looking at corruption within the IAAF, and solely for that purpose I do hope they continue.
But the focus on Russia is indeed weird, if not plain wrong.
Indeed, it's hard to fathom that these practices were limited to IAAF interactions with Russia.

 

[BullsFan22]

Re:

I very much welcome the fact that ARD are looking at corruption within the IAAF, and solely for that purpose I do hope they continue.
But the focus on Russia is indeed weird, if not plain wrong.
Indeed, it's hard to fathom that these practices were limited to IAAF interactions with Russia.

Exactly. If there is a corruption and it's founded, it should be exposed, but are the Russians really the only ones involved, in any form or capacity? Highly unlikely.

 

[gooner]

It's not just Russian either.

In the message published by Le Monde and the German broadcaster ARD, which the Guardian has independently established as genuine, the Russian claims to have been shown a list by “IAAF Ambassadors” that included non-Russian athletes.

“Surprisingly we found there some prominent British athletes including Olympic champion and icon of the GB sports [sic]. Our question is why did not the IAAF to require from GB Athletics to sanction these athletes,” it said.

“Be sure that this question will be asked in our explanations and the names of the athletes who were under Athlete Biological Passport investigation will also be disclosed. We demand fair and transparent public procedure in regard of all athletes with the alleged ABP violations.”

There is no suggestion that the inclusion of British athletes on the list is necessarily an indication of wrongdoing or that they are responsible for their names being on it.

In response the UK’s athletics governing body said: “British Athletics has no knowledge of any of the allegations made by Valentin Balakhnichev in his email of July 2014 published today. We will of course co-operate fully with any inquiry we might receive from the anti-doping authorities on the matter.”

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/nov/25/british-olympic-champion-iaaf-alleged-doping-cover-up?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

[Nomad]

Re: Re:

A corrupt organisation like the IAAF is certainly not going to limit application of its business model i.e extortion, to a single athlete. It's plain common sense that the crooks will apply their criminal methods to amass as much wealth as they can, particularly once they have it nicely set up and know that fellow travellers like Coe aren't going to rock the boat and will turn a suitably blind eye. You milk a system opportunistically for what you can.

The obvious question for investigators is whether any athletes from other nations beside Russia were involved. Coe's silence and looking the other way implicitly engages him in the corruption too. The bribe taken by his sidekick manifestly makes his involvement explicit in my view. .

I don't doubt for one second that there are entire federations, not just groups of individuals being involved in exact or very similar bribes. Russia is being singled out purely for political purposes, not because of doping. I'll be honest, I haven't seen a single documentary of ARD (german state media, btw), but the endless reports are simply to politically single out the Russians. I mean notice how vicious the German media is in general to anything Russia-related in these past few years. This just trickles down to sports as well. Even if someone is neutral, they are singled out as 'russian propagators or stooges.' Look at the EU parliament for goodness sakes.

I agree...Russia is singled out soley for political purposes. For example, ban their track athletes and marathoners from Rio while the fan-favorite Kenyans were welcomed with open arms. Please.

Those "epic" Kenyan runners have had over 40 doping positives the last several years and there's allegations of corruption (imagine that):

http://m.bbc.com/sport/athletics/35551486

Neither the Kenyans or the Ethiopians are part of the ABP, due to no WADA-accredited labs in the area to conduct the blood tests. Until these two nations become part of the ABP, then other complying nations should no longer have to be subjected to the ABP. It might just level the playing field and neutralize the Kenyan dominance on the track and roads.