Doping In Athletics

[oldcrank]

I think they should only take away Paula's record, just to see her reaction.

I think they should keep Ben Johnson's record, and give back his gold from Seoul. Just about everyone in that final was doping/was later caught and/or suspended, or have been suspected to, and in the case of Carl Lewis, the man that finished second and later was upgraded to first, several positive tests just that summer alone!

Too bad six or seven guys have gone faster, but I think Big Ben,
the Falmouth Flyer, may still be the best starter of all time.

I've seen his start up close, standing maybe 10-15 yards away and
a couple of yards in front of the line and was shocked at just how
good it was and how much better he was than everyone else when he
got it right. Back in those days of course the start rules were different
and the guys on each side of him could try and throw him off.

 

[SeriousSam]

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His drafting a pace car was even more spot on. This explains the improvement almost entirely to me.

Models seem to agree. The Tesla and the pacers apparently account for about 2 minutes.

I still think we learned that the sub2 marathon will probably happen before the inevitable cyborg transition requires new benchmarks.

 

[meat puppet]

^ interesting. Can you link to a couple aero drag models, sam? I just went by a gut feel when making the point. I mean the pace car with the timing equipment has a CDA closer to a small lorrry than a basic car. And you get a huge drag from those things on the bike regardless of your speed.

A counter point raised in Twitter etc was that the runners were not "close" to the car and the benefit was merely psychological. To me they were close enough as the car made a huge hole in the air.

Agree that a sub 2hr mara is doable with serious aero cheating. In a proper race kipchoge seems to be a 2:02.30 guy or something.

 

[Cloxxki]

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Wow, dude missed the sub 2 by about 25 seconds. (He looks so old, though, for a 32 year old. I'm sure Nike has no qualms about running him down into the ground.)

East African runners openly consider him 40 years old.

Did he do any junior racing back in the day?

 

[GraftPunk]

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Wow, dude missed the sub 2 by about 25 seconds. (He looks so old, though, for a 32 year old. I'm sure Nike has no qualms about running him down into the ground.)

wowza wowza wowza.................2.00.24 ................gotta get some N1ke

..........until ad!das go faster

Mark L

gotta love these corporate guys turning brand names into links.......we need swear filter for this

Adidas will always kick the ball better, so at least there is that :razz:

 

[BullsFan22]

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Wow, dude missed the sub 2 by about 25 seconds. (He looks so old, though, for a 32 year old. I'm sure Nike has no qualms about running him down into the ground.)

East African runners openly consider him 40 years old.

Did he do any junior racing back in the day?

In 2003, he outkicked Bekele and El Guerrouj to win the World's 5000m in Paris, as an 18 year old. Though if his age is disputed, then he may have been in his mid twenties.

 

[idunno]

Genzebe Dibaba is aiming to break the world 5k record at Eugene. Almost a year after her coach was charged with administering banned substances....

 

[Robert5091]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/39921658
A television advert featuring disgraced ex-sprinter Ben Johnson has been criticised by Australia's anti-doping authority for "making light of the use of performance-enhancing drugs".

Canadian Johnson was stripped of 100m Olympic gold from Seoul 1988 after testing positive for a banned steroid.

In the advert, he says a betting firm's mobile phone app "tested positive for speed and power again and again".

The company has defended the advert and says it will not be pulled.

There are several doping puns used in the advert, including claims the app is "a hit with performance-enhancement experts all over the world".

(Where's Lance? :lol: )

 

[yaco]

Think ASADA have more pressing issues that this almost non-story - Actually ASADA are due for a root and branch review.

 

[BullsFan22]

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http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/39921658
A television advert featuring disgraced ex-sprinter Ben Johnson has been criticised by Australia's anti-doping authority for "making light of the use of performance-enhancing drugs".

Canadian Johnson was stripped of 100m Olympic gold from Seoul 1988 after testing positive for a banned steroid.

In the advert, he says a betting firm's mobile phone app "tested positive for speed and power again and again".

The company has defended the advert and says it will not be pulled.

There are several doping puns used in the advert, including claims the app is "a hit with performance-enhancement experts all over the world".

(Where's Lance? :lol: )

I've written quite a few times about Johnson, Carl Lewis and that 100m final in Seoul. I feel bad for him in the fact that he was made a scapegoat and the fact that to this day, Lewis goes around badmouthing Johnson and saying he is a bad loser and a doper and blah, blah, blah, when Lewis himself failed 3 tests that summer of 88' alone. Technically, he shouldn't have been anywhere near Seoul, let alone claiming the gold after Johnson's positive.

Anyway, it's interesting stuff from the Aussies. Wonder what WADA, the IOC and IAAF think of it.

 

[Catwhoorg]

Johnson was a doper, but then again so were the majority of that field.

He has been singled out more than others, especially Lewis and Linford Christie.


Its not a Lance level singling out, but then again he was probably doing no more or less than the others in the field, so it is clear scapegoating.

 

[oldcrank]

Shocking revelation from the disgraced Jamaican-born Canadian sprinter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjO792hOOus

 

[DirtyWorks]

Al Salazar and Dr. Brown

Did I miss the post with yet another article about Salazar's alleged doping operations at NIKE?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/sports/nike-oregon-project-alberto-salazar-dathan-ritzenhein.html?_r=2

synthetic thyroid hormone and l-carnitine drips. Never testing positive.

Welling’s medical records showed a nearly 11,000 percent increase in her muscle L-carnitine levels after the infusion.

Regarding the L-carnitine infusion, however, she said she could not remember a single detail.


Good thing USATF isn't sponsored by Nike, or that could look bad for Track and Field.

 

[Aragon]

Re: Al Salazar and Dr. Brown

The next day, Dr. Brown prescribed Levoxyl, a thyroid drug. (Levoxyl is not a banned substance.)

According to the report, Dr. Brown was Salazar’s personal physician and was being paid a monthly retainer to work with the Oregon Project athletes. Ritzenhein said he did not know any of this at the time.

Last summer, the United States Anti-Doping Agency, or Usada, tried and failed in court to compel a deposition from Dr. Brown. His lawyer said at the time that the agency was engaged in a “fishing expedition to see if they can find some kind of a problem.”

Dr. Brown is known in the track world for diagnosing hypothyroidism in distance runners. The condition involves an underactive thyroid that can lead to weight gain and fatigue, but is considered relatively rare among athletes.

Some experts say that thyroid hormone can serve as a stimulant, lead to weight loss and improve alertness among athletes.

The functional component of Levoxyl is hormone levothyroxine and it is marketed somewhere under the brand name Levothroid. It is not well-established how prevalent its (ab)use is or has been in the past as it hasnt' been a banned drug and thus almost never discussed in the doping literature.

But there are some clues about its use allegedly by Marco Pantani and even Tyler Hamilton's calendar for season 2003 has it clearly written and because it was used just right after Dauphiné adds to the theory that it was just one way more to shed the last remaining pounds of the body before the TDF.

http://velorooms.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1783.0;attach=2630;image

 

[Gloin22]

''lead to weight loss''

Lol, middle aged women consume Levoxyl in US gyms by mass. You wanna get thin, you take Levoxyl, its really simple as that

 

[Aragon]

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Yes, when one understands the function of the hormone, it is an immediate no-brainer that weight loss could be the main reason for anyone to take it and apparently many people buy this mechanism.

But as it has been barely discussed in the literature, I am not fully convinced as there could be some detrimental side-effects if an elite athlete always at the edge of overtraining boosts his metabolic rate and thermogenesis via this substance.

 

[Catwhoorg]

Not specific to doping per se, but I was surprised at the amount of adverts on billboards/walls featuring Mo on my current trip to Shanghai.

Nike Money really does talk a global language.

 

[TubularBills]

The USADA Report On Alberto Salazar And The Nike Oregon Project

http://www.flotrack.org/article/56468-this-may-be-the-usada-report-on-alberto-salazar-and-the-nike-oregon-project#.WSTFuBMrLVo

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B12sfJ8SraVNTW9nU3puUklyRzQ/view

 

[TubularBills]

http://deadspin.com/apparent-leaked-report-details-secret-doping-scheme-of-1795489948

 

[BullsFan22]

Notice how NIKE is at the center of most doping related news in the US in the past two decades or so. Armstrong, Carl Lewis and Andre Agassi's positives being swiped away, Salazar and the Oregon Racing Project, MLB, NFL, USATF, USA Cycling, USOC scandal in the 80's to early 2000's...

 

[yaco]

It's to do with the increased mix between professional sport and multi-national companies - These companies have little concern about doping or the like, as long as it's kept in-house - You can't beat brand recognition aligned with sporting stars.

 

[arcus]

The USADA Report On Alberto Salazar And The Nike Oregon Project

http://www.flotrack.org/article/56468-this-may-be-the-usada-report-on-alberto-salazar-and-the-nike-oregon-project#.WSTFuBMrLVo

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B12sfJ8SraVNTW9nU3puUklyRzQ/view

Working through this document, and it's depressing reading....

The corporate adjacency is so concerning

:lol: page 104...... Salazar was himself apparently refused a TUE for hGH in 1995 based on lack of evidence of a pituitry-gonadal failure" :surprised:

and from salazar in 2011 (page 117)

“Lance, call me asap! We have tested it and it’s amazing. You are the only athlete I’m going to tell the actual numbers to other than Galen Rupp. It’s too incredible. All completely legal and natural! You will finish the Iron Man in about 16 minutes less while taking this.”

 

[meat puppet]

Notice how NIKE is at the center of most doping related news in the US in the past two decades or so. Armstrong, Carl Lewis and Andre Agassi's positives being swiped away, Salazar and the Oregon Racing Project, MLB, NFL, USATF, USA Cycling, USOC scandal in the 80's to early 2000's...

Exactly. Also add in the Oregon fuelled sub-2hr marathon nonsense as a very recent and very blatant shenanigan.

 

[Cake]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/40096586

Latest news on the Beeb

 

[Avoriaz]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/40483005

Many high-profile athletes missed the weekend's British trials, which formed part of the selection process for August's World Championships in London.

The team trials event gave athletes the chance to be crowned British champion in their event, and to secure places at the World Championships.

But Olympic gold medallists Mo Farah and Greg Rutherford were among those absent, as were British record holders Laura Muir and Katarina Johnson-Thompson.

Rutherford, Muir, sprint hurdler Tiffany Porter, sprinter Delano Williams, steeplechaser Rosie Clarke and long-distance runner Jo Pavey were granted permission to miss the trials because of injury concerns.

Sprinter Richard Kilty was given permission to miss the trials because of sickness, while long jumper Shara Proctor was absent after she was concussed in a minor car accident on Saturday.

As potential medal prospects in London, Farah and sprint hurdler Andrew Pozzi were granted special permission to miss the trials on performance grounds, the latter choosing to compete in the Paris Diamond League event on Saturday.

Heptathlete Johnson-Thompson was also cleared to focus on her preparation for London, but as Britain's top-ranked high jumper will still be considered for selection in that event.

Allowing them "preparation" time?