Doping In Athletics

[sniper]

jeukendrup, highly distinguished uk-based sports scientist & architect behind gebreselassie and other ethiopian top endurance athletes, will be delighted seeing the focus shift to ethiopia.

 

[MrRoboto]

Speaking about Ethiopia...
Ethiopian runner and world champion Abeba Aregawi has just tested positive for doping, and is awaiting the b-sample confirmation ( http://www.expressen.se/sport/abeba-aregawi-misstankt-for-doping/ ). Now she's not a bit different from the other best ethiopians, running the relatively short distance of 1500m, and running for Sweden. But she lives and trains in Ethiopia and tested positive over there. She actually cheated herself to a swedish citizenship, which maybe speaks for itself about how trustworthy she is. In any case it's one of the first, if not the first(?) ethiopian born star runner that is caught cheating.

Edit: I knew there were someone else. Ethiopian Elvan Abeylegesse running for Turkey was also caught recently.

 

[BullsFan22]

Strange to see how the countries that are perceived as 'poor' could have the sort of funding to pay for the wide use of doping. Or is it simply individuals that are getting the backing from their own coaches, sponsors and supporters and the federation/govt simply says 'yes, go ahead and do whatever you think is necessary?'

 

[T_S_A_R]

Strange to see how the countries that are perceived as 'poor' could have the sort of funding to pay for the wide use of doping.'

If you ever go to a third world country one of the very first things you will notice is the amount of very expensive cars on the roads.

If you can afford Hummers you can afford drugs.

 

[Catwhoorg]

Re: Re:

Unfortunately in the British press there's patronizing stories like that every week.

I feel sorry for Mo. His training camps appear to transact those doping hotbeds of Kenya and Ethopia. I just hope his good name is not smeared. What more can he do to prove he's clean?

Work for such a good clean named coach as Salazar, and maybe buddy up with Galen Rupp ?

 

[bastigon]

Speaking about Ethiopia...
Ethiopian runner and world champion Abeba Aregawi has just tested positive for doping, and is awaiting the b-sample confirmation ( http://www.expressen.se/sport/abeba-aregawi-misstankt-for-doping/ ).

Meldonium again

http://www.dn.se/sport/aregawis-substans-forbjods-vid-arsskiftet/

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

Unfortunately in the British press there's patronizing stories like that every week.

I feel sorry for Mo. His training camps appear to transact those doping hotbeds of Kenya and Ethopia. I just hope his good name is not smeared. What more can he do to prove he's clean?

Work for such a good clean named coach as Salazar, and maybe buddy up with Galen Rupp ?

That would do it, maybe get sponsored by Nike. Certification of clean.

 

[Benotti69]

Somebody thinks busting a load of athletes from poor countries is going to make people believe the sport has been cleansed......yeah sure, maybe the gormless will.

 

[thehog]

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Somebody thinks busting a load of athletes from poor countries is going to make people believe the sport has been cleansed......yeah sure, maybe the gormless will.

Lord Coe cleaning up the colonies.

 

[MrRoboto]

Re:

Somebody thinks busting a load of athletes from poor countries is going to make people believe the sport has been cleansed......yeah sure, maybe the gormless will.

Well...Catching cheaters from countries like Kenya, Ethiopia and Jamaica -- 3 of the 5 most dominant countries in athletics the last decade or so -- is a good start no matter how poor they are.

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

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Well...Catching cheaters from countries like Kenya, Ethiopia and Jamaica -- 3 of the 5 most dominant countries in athletics the last decade or so -- is a good start no matter how poor they are.

By saying that this is the "start", you're suggesting that the remaining two countries are about to face some serious scrutiny. lol.

Also, as has been observed plentifully, it's not a coincidence that those three countries take all the blows. Their athletes have no money to take their cases to court.

So no, it's not a start. And yes, it matters how poor they are.

 

[Lyon]

Strange to see how the countries that are perceived as 'poor' could have the sort of funding to pay for the wide use of doping. Or is it simply individuals that are getting the backing from their own coaches, sponsors and supporters and the federation/govt simply says 'yes, go ahead and do whatever you think is necessary?'

The enablers gets' a percentage of all future earnings. There is no lack of money in third-world countries. Most of the time the federations/governments are the enablers. Or the ones enabling the enablers.

 

[MrRoboto]

With a start, I'm not implying more is going to happen, but that it's still good, and that laughing it away as going after the nonamers is pretty silly...And that there is hopefully more to come.

The other two big players, USA and Russia, has a lot of blemishes on their record the last 15 years. A bunch of high profile american stars have had to bite the dust, while Russia is now facing a huge scandal and everyone knows they are dirty. Ethiopia on the other hand has dominated long distance running for the last 25 years with Kenya as pretty much the only contender. They have both escaped pretty much untarnished until recently. They aren't taking all the blows, not at all. They are just opening another can of worms.

And if stars are caught, they have no problem contending it, no matter how poor the country is.

 

[sniper]

Re:

With a start, I'm not implying more is going to happen, but that it's still good, and that laughing it away as going after the nonamers is pretty silly...And that there is hopefully more to come.

The other two big players, USA and Russia, has a lot of blemishes on their record the last 15 years. A bunch of high profile american stars have had to bite the dust, while Russia is now facing a huge scandal and everyone knows they are dirty. Ethiopia on the other hand has dominated long distance running for the last 25 years with Kenya as pretty much the only contender. They have both escaped pretty much untarnished until recently. They aren't taking all the blows, not at all. They are just opening another can of worms.

And if stars are caught, they have no problem contending it, no matter how poor the country is.

the obvious rhinoceros in the room is a two letter word. Starts with U, ends with K.

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

Somebody thinks busting a load of athletes from poor countries is going to make people believe the sport has been cleansed......yeah sure, maybe the gormless will.

Well...Catching cheaters from countries like Kenya, Ethiopia and Jamaica -- 3 of the 5 most dominant countries in athletics the last decade or so -- is a good start no matter how poor they are.

Or is Coe just clearing the way for UK, USA athletes to collect gold medals.....hmmmmmm.

Coe is not anti doping he is just anti people who are anti Coe.

 

[JackRabbitSlims]

IOC to remove itself from drug tests in Rio

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11598389

 

[noddy69]

Re: Re:

Somebody thinks busting a load of athletes from poor countries is going to make people believe the sport has been cleansed......yeah sure, maybe the gormless will.

Well...Catching cheaters from countries like Kenya, Ethiopia and Jamaica -- 3 of the 5 most dominant countries in athletics the last decade or so -- is a good start no matter how poor they are.

Or is Coe just clearing the way for UK, USA athletes to collect gold medals.....hmmmmmm.

Coe is not anti doping he is just anti people who are anti Coe.

Yeah ok..cause there aren't any other Kenyans or Ethiopians who can run middle distance.....alleluhah the way is open for the USA and Britain, domination awaits..

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

Somebody thinks busting a load of athletes from poor countries is going to make people believe the sport has been cleansed......yeah sure, maybe the gormless will.

Well...Catching cheaters from countries like Kenya, Ethiopia and Jamaica -- 3 of the 5 most dominant countries in athletics the last decade or so -- is a good start no matter how poor they are.

Or is Coe just clearing the way for UK, USA athletes to collect gold medals.....hmmmmmm.

Coe is not anti doping he is just anti people who are anti Coe.

Yeah ok..cause there aren't any other Kenyans or Ethiopians who can run middle distance.....alleluhah the way is open for the USA and Britain, domination awaits..

McQuaid used to warn Spain and call doping a Mediterranean problem. This so he could get US and UK firmly into the sport. There is nothing new here in tightening the reins on a select nations so others can prosper.

 

[gooner]

The International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) is bracing itself for fresh allegations about the doping crisis in Russia after German broadcasters ARD/WDR announced they will air part three of their explosive documentary series on Sunday (March 6).

Entitled "Russia's Red Herrings", the TV documentary will be shown at 9.05pm CET on the weekly Sport Inside programme.

The film by Hajo Seppelt and Florian Riesewieck will last for 30 minutes with a full length English version available online immediately after its first broadcast.

http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1035027/ard-to-screen-third-documentary-on-doping-in-russian-athletics

 

[BullsFan22]

The International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) is bracing itself for fresh allegations about the doping crisis in Russia after German broadcasters ARD/WDR announced they will air part three of their explosive documentary series on Sunday (March 6).

Entitled "Russia's Red Herrings", the TV documentary will be shown at 9.05pm CET on the weekly Sport Inside programme.

The film by Hajo Seppelt and Florian Riesewieck will last for 30 minutes with a full length English version available online immediately after its first broadcast.

http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1035027/ard-to-screen-third-documentary-on-doping-in-russian-athletics

The fact that Seppelt seems so fixated on Russia and considering ARD is state television, makes me think this, however true or false, is political, more than anything else. All you ever hear from Seppelt is about Russia. He reminds me of David Walsh. Now that British cycling is a major player, he is rather mum and actually very supportive of the sort of dominance he questioned years before Froome and Wiggins and the rest of the Sky/British cycling faithful.

 

[Benotti69]

Abebe Aregawi, the 2013 women’s 1500m world champion, has been provisionally suspended after Meldonium was found in her A sample.

She was given 3 days notice of the date and time testers were going to arrive to test her???????????WTF???????

Are athletes not supposed to give 3 months notice of there whereabouts in advance?

 

[gooner]

The International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) is bracing itself for fresh allegations about the doping crisis in Russia after German broadcasters ARD/WDR announced they will air part three of their explosive documentary series on Sunday (March 6).

Entitled "Russia's Red Herrings", the TV documentary will be shown at 9.05pm CET on the weekly Sport Inside programme.

The film by Hajo Seppelt and Florian Riesewieck will last for 30 minutes with a full length English version available online immediately after its first broadcast.

http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1035027/ard-to-screen-third-documentary-on-doping-in-russian-athletics

The fact that Seppelt seems so fixated on Russia and considering ARD is state television, makes me think this, however true or false, is political, more than anything else. All you ever hear from Seppelt is about Russia. He reminds me of David Walsh. Now that British cycling is a major player, he is rather mum and actually very supportive of the sort of dominance he questioned years before Froome and Wiggins and the rest of the Sky/British cycling faithful.

This was discussed before.

You can't conjure up a whistleblower out of nowhere with a magic wand.

 

[HSNHSN]

The International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) is bracing itself for fresh allegations about the doping crisis in Russia after German broadcasters ARD/WDR announced they will air part three of their explosive documentary series on Sunday (March 6).

Entitled "Russia's Red Herrings", the TV documentary will be shown at 9.05pm CET on the weekly Sport Inside programme.

The film by Hajo Seppelt and Florian Riesewieck will last for 30 minutes with a full length English version available online immediately after its first broadcast.

http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1035027/ard-to-screen-third-documentary-on-doping-in-russian-athletics

The fact that Seppelt seems so fixated on Russia and considering ARD is state television, makes me think this, however true or false, is political, more than anything else. All you ever hear from Seppelt is about Russia. He reminds me of David Walsh. Now that British cycling is a major player, he is rather mum and actually very supportive of the sort of dominance he questioned years before Froome and Wiggins and the rest of the Sky/British cycling faithful.

This was discussed before.

You can't conjure up a whistleblower out of nowhere with a magic wand.

Didn't he mention at the end of the first documentary that he'd received quite a lot of trustworthy information on other countries having nationwide doping programmes? If so, I'd be rather surprised if he's not investigating these at the moment as well. These things, however, take time.

 

[BullsFan22]

The International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) is bracing itself for fresh allegations about the doping crisis in Russia after German broadcasters ARD/WDR announced they will air part three of their explosive documentary series on Sunday (March 6).

Entitled "Russia's Red Herrings", the TV documentary will be shown at 9.05pm CET on the weekly Sport Inside programme.

The film by Hajo Seppelt and Florian Riesewieck will last for 30 minutes with a full length English version available online immediately after its first broadcast.

http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1035027/ard-to-screen-third-documentary-on-doping-in-russian-athletics

The fact that Seppelt seems so fixated on Russia and considering ARD is state television, makes me think this, however true or false, is political, more than anything else. All you ever hear from Seppelt is about Russia. He reminds me of David Walsh. Now that British cycling is a major player, he is rather mum and actually very supportive of the sort of dominance he questioned years before Froome and Wiggins and the rest of the Sky/British cycling faithful.

This was discussed before.

You can't conjure up a whistleblower out of nowhere with a magic wand.

You definitely can't. But he's a pretty specific guy to go to. I am not defending the Russians in any sort of way, but...glass house analogy...

 

[Anaconda]

The International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) is bracing itself for fresh allegations about the doping crisis in Russia after German broadcasters ARD/WDR announced they will air part three of their explosive documentary series on Sunday (March 6).

Entitled "Russia's Red Herrings", the TV documentary will be shown at 9.05pm CET on the weekly Sport Inside programme.

The film by Hajo Seppelt and Florian Riesewieck will last for 30 minutes with a full length English version available online immediately after its first broadcast.

http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1035027/ard-to-screen-third-documentary-on-doping-in-russian-athletics

The fact that Seppelt seems so fixated on Russia and considering ARD is state television, makes me think this, however true or false, is political, more than anything else. All you ever hear from Seppelt is about Russia. He reminds me of David Walsh. Now that British cycling is a major player, he is rather mum and actually very supportive of the sort of dominance he questioned years before Froome and Wiggins and the rest of the Sky/British cycling faithful.

Seppelt has covered Kenya in his docu's. Was he not the journo who broke the Contador clen pos? Whatever you think of him (I think very favorably) he and his unit (and collaborators) have proved to be pretty good bang for the buck compared to the whole Antidoping industrial complex (WADA, NADO's etc)